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12 Jun 2022, 01:36
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Hello everyone,
I am looking for some inputs on which MBA program to choose. I have recently received an admit to HEC Paris and CMU Tepper with a 10K/year scholarship for 2 years
Profile - Indian, Engineer, Male, 25 years old, Undergrad from a top 10 Engineering college in India, 4 years work-ex at a leading e-commerce firm in India, Decent PORs & community involvement during college and post college
Post MBA goals - To work as product manager in one of the big tech firms. Location is no bar (Though I am inclined to settle in Europe in the long term). However, I do want to keep other post MBA paths open as well (MBB consulting is my number 2 at the moment)
HEC Paris
Pros:
1. Better positioned to settle in Europe in the long term.
2. More international classroom
3. Strong alumni presence in Amazon Europe offices - 20-25% of the class end up in Amazon Europe offices as per my discussions with Alumni
Cons:
1. Not many high tech firms apart from Amazon recruit for their European offices (As per my understanding HQs of Google, Microsoft, Facebook etc. hire majorly from LBS and INSEAD).
2. Language barrier - Though I am not looking for opportunities in France specifically, As per my understanding, This could be an issue for other neighbouring countries as well.
3. In continuation to 2, For opportunities in London, LBS and INSEAD grads are first in line.
4. In my discussions so far with Alumni, They were disappointed with the career centre to say the least, This is a little worrisome since this combined with language barrier can result in a hard time while hunting for jobs
5. In case I choose to get into MBB during the program, the opportunities are next to non-existent as per my discussions with Alumni and some LinkedIn search.
CMU Tepper
Pros:
1. High focus on tech, so better suited for my post MBA target industry
2. 3 year OPT STEM visa
3. No language barrier
4. Small classroom and close knit community (In line with what I am looking for)
Cons:
1. Brand name - Not too well known in comparison to the colleges in a tier above (Duke, Ross, Darden, UCLA etc.)
2. MBB hiring - In case I wish to get into MBB firms specifically post my MBA start, it does not seem like many people from Tepper end up here, although other consulting firms like PWC, Deloitte etc. do hire a lot.
3. As per my discussions thus far, Pittsburgh is not that great a college town
As of now I am considering these three schools and also the option of dropping this year, Improving my GMAT by 20-30 Points and trying for M7 and other better ranked schools (Duke, Darden, UCLA etc.) next year. Can you please give your opinions on the schools and also what you think of the option to drop and try out next year for M7s with a better GMAT score. And In case i am not able to improve my GMAT score (Which has been the case in the last 2 attempts i took post my 740), then would I be wasting a year to get to very similar schools next year?
Thanks in advance for your time
I am looking for some inputs on which MBA program to choose. I have recently received an admit to HEC Paris and CMU Tepper with a 10K/year scholarship for 2 years
Profile - Indian, Engineer, Male, 25 years old, Undergrad from a top 10 Engineering college in India, 4 years work-ex at a leading e-commerce firm in India, Decent PORs & community involvement during college and post college
Post MBA goals - To work as product manager in one of the big tech firms. Location is no bar (Though I am inclined to settle in Europe in the long term). However, I do want to keep other post MBA paths open as well (MBB consulting is my number 2 at the moment)
HEC Paris
Pros:
1. Better positioned to settle in Europe in the long term.
2. More international classroom
3. Strong alumni presence in Amazon Europe offices - 20-25% of the class end up in Amazon Europe offices as per my discussions with Alumni
Cons:
1. Not many high tech firms apart from Amazon recruit for their European offices (As per my understanding HQs of Google, Microsoft, Facebook etc. hire majorly from LBS and INSEAD).
2. Language barrier - Though I am not looking for opportunities in France specifically, As per my understanding, This could be an issue for other neighbouring countries as well.
3. In continuation to 2, For opportunities in London, LBS and INSEAD grads are first in line.
4. In my discussions so far with Alumni, They were disappointed with the career centre to say the least, This is a little worrisome since this combined with language barrier can result in a hard time while hunting for jobs
5. In case I choose to get into MBB during the program, the opportunities are next to non-existent as per my discussions with Alumni and some LinkedIn search.
CMU Tepper
Pros:
1. High focus on tech, so better suited for my post MBA target industry
2. 3 year OPT STEM visa
3. No language barrier
4. Small classroom and close knit community (In line with what I am looking for)
Cons:
1. Brand name - Not too well known in comparison to the colleges in a tier above (Duke, Ross, Darden, UCLA etc.)
2. MBB hiring - In case I wish to get into MBB firms specifically post my MBA start, it does not seem like many people from Tepper end up here, although other consulting firms like PWC, Deloitte etc. do hire a lot.
3. As per my discussions thus far, Pittsburgh is not that great a college town
As of now I am considering these three schools and also the option of dropping this year, Improving my GMAT by 20-30 Points and trying for M7 and other better ranked schools (Duke, Darden, UCLA etc.) next year. Can you please give your opinions on the schools and also what you think of the option to drop and try out next year for M7s with a better GMAT score. And In case i am not able to improve my GMAT score (Which has been the case in the last 2 attempts i took post my 740), then would I be wasting a year to get to very similar schools next year?
Thanks in advance for your time
12 Jun 2022, 03:05
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OK what is the most important thing for you is it living in Europe or the career goal of being a product manager? I am Magine that you must have applied to the UK schools and didn’t get any traction there? Because that seems like the most obvious path to me. I’m a little surprised about what you say about CMU because it’s generally known as a school that’s decent for product management but maybe that’s just Amazon focused. Have you done all the digging on that? For what it’s worth one of my former clients is a manager at Kearney and he said that he favors applicants from CMU. Not sure why but there it is. I do think that you could get into a better program if you reapply if your profile is more competitive this year than it was last year. I know the NBA applications are very draining so I think about whether this past year has added much to your overall value as an applicant. With a 740 you could do a little better in terms of ranked schools, just as a FYI all programs are stem now so that’s not really a competitive advantage for CMU specifically. The key here is to apply early. You need to apply to early action round and round one because there are a lot of people out there with your profile. Or something similar in likely to have a higher GMAT so of course articulate your value the best you can and apply to a variety of schools and make sure to include early rounds. Like Darden Duke and the September 1 deadline for Tuck. Hope this helps. Also I really liked Pittsburgh when I was there 
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12 Jun 2022, 04:11
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OK what is the most important thing for you is it living in Europe or the career goal of being a product manager? I am Magine that you must have applied to the UK schools and didn’t get any traction there? Because that seems like the most obvious path to me. I’m a little surprised about what you say about CMU because it’s generally known as a school that’s decent for product management but maybe that’s just Amazon focused. Have you done all the digging on that? For what it’s worth one of my former clients is a manager at Kearney and he said that he favors applicants from CMU. Not sure why but there it is. I do think that you could get into a better program if you reapply if your profile is more competitive this year than it was last year. I know the NBA applications are very draining so I think about whether this past year has added much to your overall value as an applicant. With a 740 you could do a little better in terms of ranked schools, just as a FYI all programs are stem now so that’s not really a competitive advantage for CMU specifically. The key here is to apply early. You need to apply to early action round and round one because there are a lot of people out there with your profile. Or something similar in likely to have a higher GMAT so of course articulate your value the best you can and apply to a variety of schools and make sure to include early rounds. Like Darden Duke and the September 1 deadline for Tuck. Hope this helps. Also I really liked Pittsburgh when I was there
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
In terms of my career goals I definitely value being product manager more than being in Europe and as per my understanding from talking to Alumni from some B schools both in Europe and US, getting to Europe post MBA from a top B school in US is easier than getting to US post MBA from a top B school Europe and hence I am preferring US schools over HEC Paris. Do you have any thoughts on this pointer from your experience?
Also, can you also shed some light on lifetime value of an MBA from Tepper vs other slightly better ranked schools such as Duke/Darden, I understand that right after MBA the opportunities are fairly similar especially in product management but does it add value say 10 years post MBA? I am okay to drop this year and try out again but I am not getting a clear picture as to what the value add would be from Duke/Darden or better ranked schools vs Tepper. Any pointers from your experience would really help
I did apply to LBS and Cambridge this year but unfortunately got dinged at both of them
I will definitely give them a shot again if i apply next year.Another path i'm considering is to ask for deferral at HEC and Tepper, I did reach out to them on this but haven't heard back yet. I think this would be the best approach since it gives me that cushion to aim big next year albeit I will lose one year post MBA experience. Fingers crossed that they'll reply positively.
And thanks for the input on early rounds, I do aim to close out my applications in R1 and EA wherever applicable (Duke, Darden, and Tuck)
