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07 May 2009, 17:15
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Thanks for this bb. I intend to take it one step further. I intend to have master post for each school - which gives a brief intro to the school. This master page will contain links to individual year threads. We do have some master pages and threads for individual schools here :
europe-mba-discussion-19171.html
But these master pages are rather outdated (refer to 2003 stats and rankings) and were created when Hjort was still active. We need to update this. Step by step I suppose
europe-mba-discussion-19171.html
But these master pages are rather outdated (refer to 2003 stats and rankings) and were created when Hjort was still active. We need to update this. Step by step I suppose
bb
07 May 2009, 17:28
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The point about the US b-school application forum having more quality posts has been made but allow me to try to make the point more lucid.
Once you are done with the GMAT, I think there are two basic categories of questions you have in your mind.
1) What are the general strategies/tips for a b-school application?
2) What are the school specific strategy for School X, Y, and Z?
When you have a question in the former category, where do you go? To "The B-School Application" forum.
When you have a question in the latter category, where do you go? Depends on the school, but either the US or International forum.
Since the former makes up the majority of the questions (IMO at least), most people HAVE to read US b-school forum, whether they have any interest in the US schools or not. Take for example an applicant who is only really interested in applying to European schools. However, to read up on general advice and tips on b-school applications, this applicant starts reading the US b-school forum. Eventually, this person builds a bond with the regulars in that forum, and only checks the international forum every so often and only follows one or two threads. I think that's the situation that arises most of the time. And that's what happened to me as well.
I think I have a pretty clear idea of the hurdles facing this issue, but I'm not sure I have any good ideas. The only clear cut solution is really like you say clone bsd_lover, or find more quality posters that are dedicated to the International forum.
I do have a few ideas that aren't completely thought out yet, but I want to throw it out there so maybe it can start some brainstorming.
1) Allow cross-posting between the two forums, that way good threads are kept common between both forums. It will also allow easier and more interaction between the posters in both forums. I don't know if this is technically feasible, but it's an old trick from my newsgroup days.
2) Create a separate forum for general application advice, then have separate forums for regions. I see two issues with this. First, it's hard to enforce the rule that people HAVE to post general advice in one forum and discuss school specific issues in another. Second, it doesn't really improve traffic in the international forum, though it might boost a lot of traffic in the general advice forum.
3) Screw it, create something like a GC10 (M7 + Insead, IMD, and LBS; three schools that belong up there with the very best IMO) to expose more people to the great opportunities that lie outside of the US shores. I don't quite know what this accomplishes (heh), but I just like the sound of it.
4) Create a database/knowledge vault for International/European b-school applicants. International b-schools are quite different from US b-schools, and the type of candidate they are looking for are also different. I don't think there are enough information highlighting these differences, and emphasizing the difference in experience. The hardest problem with this point though is that I have no idea how to resolve this issue.
Once you are done with the GMAT, I think there are two basic categories of questions you have in your mind.
1) What are the general strategies/tips for a b-school application?
2) What are the school specific strategy for School X, Y, and Z?
When you have a question in the former category, where do you go? To "The B-School Application" forum.
When you have a question in the latter category, where do you go? Depends on the school, but either the US or International forum.
Since the former makes up the majority of the questions (IMO at least), most people HAVE to read US b-school forum, whether they have any interest in the US schools or not. Take for example an applicant who is only really interested in applying to European schools. However, to read up on general advice and tips on b-school applications, this applicant starts reading the US b-school forum. Eventually, this person builds a bond with the regulars in that forum, and only checks the international forum every so often and only follows one or two threads. I think that's the situation that arises most of the time. And that's what happened to me as well.
I think I have a pretty clear idea of the hurdles facing this issue, but I'm not sure I have any good ideas. The only clear cut solution is really like you say clone bsd_lover, or find more quality posters that are dedicated to the International forum.
I do have a few ideas that aren't completely thought out yet, but I want to throw it out there so maybe it can start some brainstorming.
1) Allow cross-posting between the two forums, that way good threads are kept common between both forums. It will also allow easier and more interaction between the posters in both forums. I don't know if this is technically feasible, but it's an old trick from my newsgroup days.
2) Create a separate forum for general application advice, then have separate forums for regions. I see two issues with this. First, it's hard to enforce the rule that people HAVE to post general advice in one forum and discuss school specific issues in another. Second, it doesn't really improve traffic in the international forum, though it might boost a lot of traffic in the general advice forum.
3) Screw it, create something like a GC10 (M7 + Insead, IMD, and LBS; three schools that belong up there with the very best IMO) to expose more people to the great opportunities that lie outside of the US shores. I don't quite know what this accomplishes (heh), but I just like the sound of it.
4) Create a database/knowledge vault for International/European b-school applicants. International b-schools are quite different from US b-schools, and the type of candidate they are looking for are also different. I don't think there are enough information highlighting these differences, and emphasizing the difference in experience. The hardest problem with this point though is that I have no idea how to resolve this issue.
07 May 2009, 17:47
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Thank you for the ideas!
I like the one about cross-posting. I don't know if our forum allows that but we can at least assemble a small "Intro Sticky" that would have all relevant threads from the other forum, but having live threads would be better of course.
#2 is tough - we tried sub-forums and they often fail. For example we had Reviews subforum and it was dead because people did not want to leave the Math or Verbal or MBA forum to post a review or provide feedback about a product. I would hold off on this one.
#3 Sure! I think BSD already did that in his thread right here: ranks-and-clusterings-of-various-international-b-schools-78320.html
#4 Agree as well though I would recommend building it using stickies - it is the best of two worlds - keeps people in one forum and also preserves knowledge. We used to have a GMAT Knowledge Vault and once I moved one of the topics back into the GMAT Forum, it's visitation and popularity was 5x times the other topics, so I have evidence to believe it is best not to split up sub-forums for a very limited number of posts. (Though some members definitely prefer that format and there are reasons reasons to have a subforum, but I noticed that often threads are more popular when they are stickied or linked from one main thread). I know Praet disagrees with me somewhat on this, and you are welcome too! Actually - I love to be proved wrong, esp if I was pessimistic about it.
07 May 2009, 17:50
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Great Idea! That way the old info is preserved as well. Both myself and Timetrader, our resident content expert, would be able to help out a few hours a day (which should be plenty for our modest plans), but we will need you to lead/provide direction. Unless of course there are better ideas or reasons not to do this?
and is a long way from being a polished marketing ploy 
