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Schools: Yale '26 (A) LBS '26 (WL) Booth '26 (A) Columbia CBS'26 (A) Kellogg '26 (A) Tuck '26 (A) Wharton '26 (D) Sloan '26 (D)
GMAT 1: 720 Q51 V36
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Schools: Yale '26 (A) LBS '26 (WL) Booth '26 (A) Columbia CBS'26 (A) Kellogg '26 (A) Tuck '26 (A) Wharton '26 (D) Sloan '26 (D)
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02 Dec 2022, 02:52
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Hi all,
I am a non native applicant coming from an engineering background. Yesterday i wrote my gmat and got 720 (Q51 V36 IR 7). In order to have a solid shot at Top programs i need to push my gmat and receive a higher score in verbal.
I have been preparing for 1 year with 4 hour min everyday. I devoted a solid 500-1000 hour in total. I finished TTP program, verbal/quant review OG, LSAT RCs and CRs and thousands other questions from other sources (Princeton review, Veritas Powerscore etc.).
My ESR has just arrived; you can find it ın the attachments.
Also ı agree that ı can give a shot for a couple of session to come up with a diagnosis.
To be honest ı don't exactly know what is holding me back in verbal. Sometimes ı can perform very well, but sometimes ı just fail. A year ago ı was certain that majority of my suffering was due to my poor fundamental skills. But ı have been reading from Economist/Atlantic/Arts&Letters different articles weekly for at least a year and they greatly helped me.
There are several factors ı believe that may be the culprit;
-Speed Corruption; I used to be sloth in verbal but with enough practice ı became very fast. However this speed may have corrupted me since in some cases ı may be rushing to just finish the question without understanding the key details ( ı do not skim, never! but just maybe need to spend a little bit more time to fully grasp the meaning...)
-Fundamental Skills; Even though ı have completed lots and lots of passages from miscellaneous sources and read through tons of articles for a year, ı may still be struggling with fundamental issues. Interestingly, In some topics (Battles, Science etc.) that ı am familiar with or previously read ı can understand it very fast. I even noticed it after starting LSAT passages. For examples after reading similar passages regarding how earth formed or how women's position changed in Europe, ı became familiar with the topics and could understand the passages with much ease
-Wrong Approach; Mostly in Critical Reasoning, ı may be employing wrong approach although ı used PowerScore and other useful resources, even if ı understand the passage, ı am just clueless on how choices really connect to the argument (I just sometimes fail to build the hidden logic behind)
-Knowledge Gap; I believe that ı may still have some knowledge gap. But in SC, especially in hard questions it is not general rules that challenges me but rather slight meaning differences
-Timing; If ı dedicate enough time to a question, ı can solve it, mostly. But under time pressure it may be hard for me to tackle it.
-Test Center Conditions; ı know this may sound ridiculous but testing screen was far bigger than my laptops', making hard to see entire sentence in one look, so ı had to move my head from left to right. I know it sounds like a stupid pretext, but believe me, since ı solved thousands of questions on my laptops' screen ı am used to solve it by seeing the whole sentence in front of me...
My LSAT RC Mocks;
During last 6 week ı have been intensely practicing (nearly every day or every other day) LSAT RC Mocks (26-27 question each) to beef up my speed and they were really, really helpful!
Each under an hour (50 - 60 min). However as you can see my accuracy can vary between %60-%90 depending on the difficulty of the passage and questions and familiarity
My LSAT CR Mocks
Again ı have been practicing hard for CR Mocks (From Gmatclub Broall 255 CR LSAT questions set) and each under an hour (50 - 60 min).
Note that there thousands and thousands other question that ı solved but ı am not mentioning here
All in all, any help will be much appreciated!
So i am asking you to know how should i proceed from now on to increase my verbal? Thank you
I am a non native applicant coming from an engineering background. Yesterday i wrote my gmat and got 720 (Q51 V36 IR 7). In order to have a solid shot at Top programs i need to push my gmat and receive a higher score in verbal.
I have been preparing for 1 year with 4 hour min everyday. I devoted a solid 500-1000 hour in total. I finished TTP program, verbal/quant review OG, LSAT RCs and CRs and thousands other questions from other sources (Princeton review, Veritas Powerscore etc.).
My ESR has just arrived; you can find it ın the attachments.
Also ı agree that ı can give a shot for a couple of session to come up with a diagnosis.
To be honest ı don't exactly know what is holding me back in verbal. Sometimes ı can perform very well, but sometimes ı just fail. A year ago ı was certain that majority of my suffering was due to my poor fundamental skills. But ı have been reading from Economist/Atlantic/Arts&Letters different articles weekly for at least a year and they greatly helped me.
There are several factors ı believe that may be the culprit;
-Speed Corruption; I used to be sloth in verbal but with enough practice ı became very fast. However this speed may have corrupted me since in some cases ı may be rushing to just finish the question without understanding the key details ( ı do not skim, never! but just maybe need to spend a little bit more time to fully grasp the meaning...)
-Fundamental Skills; Even though ı have completed lots and lots of passages from miscellaneous sources and read through tons of articles for a year, ı may still be struggling with fundamental issues. Interestingly, In some topics (Battles, Science etc.) that ı am familiar with or previously read ı can understand it very fast. I even noticed it after starting LSAT passages. For examples after reading similar passages regarding how earth formed or how women's position changed in Europe, ı became familiar with the topics and could understand the passages with much ease
-Wrong Approach; Mostly in Critical Reasoning, ı may be employing wrong approach although ı used PowerScore and other useful resources, even if ı understand the passage, ı am just clueless on how choices really connect to the argument (I just sometimes fail to build the hidden logic behind)
-Knowledge Gap; I believe that ı may still have some knowledge gap. But in SC, especially in hard questions it is not general rules that challenges me but rather slight meaning differences
-Timing; If ı dedicate enough time to a question, ı can solve it, mostly. But under time pressure it may be hard for me to tackle it.
-Test Center Conditions; ı know this may sound ridiculous but testing screen was far bigger than my laptops', making hard to see entire sentence in one look, so ı had to move my head from left to right. I know it sounds like a stupid pretext, but believe me, since ı solved thousands of questions on my laptops' screen ı am used to solve it by seeing the whole sentence in front of me...
My LSAT RC Mocks;
During last 6 week ı have been intensely practicing (nearly every day or every other day) LSAT RC Mocks (26-27 question each) to beef up my speed and they were really, really helpful!
Each under an hour (50 - 60 min). However as you can see my accuracy can vary between %60-%90 depending on the difficulty of the passage and questions and familiarity
My LSAT CR Mocks
Again ı have been practicing hard for CR Mocks (From Gmatclub Broall 255 CR LSAT questions set) and each under an hour (50 - 60 min).
Note that there thousands and thousands other question that ı solved but ı am not mentioning here
All in all, any help will be much appreciated!
So i am asking you to know how should i proceed from now on to increase my verbal? Thank you
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02 Dec 2022, 06:04
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Hi gloomybison.
What are your verbal accuracies when you do questions untimed? From what you're saying, it sounds as if perhaps your move is to do more untimed practice to really nail down how to get questions, particularly CR questions, correct.
You could shoot for close to 100 percent accuracy and streaks of 20 or more questions correct in a row untimed. Once you're achieving those accuracies, you'll be sufficiently skilled in getting questions correct. Then, at that point, you could work on speeding up to test pace while maintaining those accuracies.
Also, you could contact me via the TTP chat or email to discuss some specifics of how to answer SC and CR questions.
For some more insights into how to practice for best results, see this post.
The Best GMAT Practice Methods
What are your verbal accuracies when you do questions untimed? From what you're saying, it sounds as if perhaps your move is to do more untimed practice to really nail down how to get questions, particularly CR questions, correct.
You could shoot for close to 100 percent accuracy and streaks of 20 or more questions correct in a row untimed. Once you're achieving those accuracies, you'll be sufficiently skilled in getting questions correct. Then, at that point, you could work on speeding up to test pace while maintaining those accuracies.
Also, you could contact me via the TTP chat or email to discuss some specifics of how to answer SC and CR questions.
For some more insights into how to practice for best results, see this post.
The Best GMAT Practice Methods
02 Dec 2022, 22:19
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Gratz on the 720. Stellar Quant.
For Verbal, consider working on your solving approach if you feel your fundamentals are solid. May help boost your score a bit. Had a student, for example, who went from a V41 to a V45 in about 10 days. Perhaps work with a study buddy with strong Verbal skills. You could teach them Quant in exchange for Verbal help.
Based on your ESR, focusing more on CR and RC which were around the 65th percentile as opposed to SC which above the 90th may provide more "bang for your study buck".
3 Reading Comprehension tips
For Verbal, consider working on your solving approach if you feel your fundamentals are solid. May help boost your score a bit. Had a student, for example, who went from a V41 to a V45 in about 10 days. Perhaps work with a study buddy with strong Verbal skills. You could teach them Quant in exchange for Verbal help.
Based on your ESR, focusing more on CR and RC which were around the 65th percentile as opposed to SC which above the 90th may provide more "bang for your study buck".
3 Reading Comprehension tips
