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If m and n are positive integers, is m^n < n^m?
(1) m = sqrt(n)
(2) n > 5


from 1

m = sqrt n ie: n = m^2

is m^(m^2)< m^2m , is m^m(m-2) < 1 is m(m-2)<0 is m>2.... insuff




from 2

obviously insuff

both suff

n>5, n = m^2 ( try worst case scenario n = 9 ) thus m = 3 >2...suff
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If m and n are positive integers, is m^n < n^m?
(1) m = sqrt(n)
(2) n > 5

i disagree with the OA.
My reasoning below
1) if m = 1 & n = 1 then m=sqrt(n) and m^n=n^m
if m=2 & n=4 then m=sqrt(n) and m^n=n^m
if m=3 & n=9 then m=sqrt(n) and m^n>n^m
So if 1) then m^n<n^m always false ==> sufficient

2) we do not know anything about m so insufficient

I assume answer is A. Do you agree ?

It seems that you are right, answer should be A.

Answer to be C question shouldn't say that \(m\) and \(n\) are integers. In this case if \(m=\sqrt{n}=\sqrt{2}\) then \(m^n=\sqrt{2}^2=2<2^{\sqrt{2}}=n^m\), so (1) wouldn't be sufficient.

Also the question would be a little bit trickier in this case.


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If m and n are positive integers, is m^n < n^m?
(1) m = sqrt(n)
(2) n > 5


from 1

m = sqrt n ie: n = m^2

is m^(m^2)< (m^2)^m

plug m = 1 or 2 (no), plug m = 7 (yes) insuff
from 2

obviously insuff

both suff

C

If \(m=7\) then \(n=49\) and \(7^{49}>49^7\), so answer is still NO.
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If m and n are positive integers, is \(m^n\) < \(n^m\)?
(1) m = \(\sqrt{n}\)
(2) n > 5


Let's discuss the relation between \(m^n\) and \(n^m\) when m and n are positive integers. To differentiate m from n, I say m is the smaller of the two except where they are equal.

Look at the pattern now:
Say m = 1
n = 1: \(1^1 = 1^1\)
n = 2: \(1^2 < 2^1\)
n = 3: \(1^3 < 3^1\)
and so on...

Say m = 2
n = 2: \(2^2 = 2^2\)
n = 3: \(2^3 < 3^2\)
n = 4: \(2^4 = 4^2\) (m^n was less than n^m above but here they are equal so m^n should become greater from now on)
n = 5: \(2^5 > 5^2\)
n = 6: \(2^6 > 6^2\)
You see that the difference between m^n and n^m is increasing in every step.)

Say m = 3
n = 4: \(3^4 > 4^3\) (m^n is already greater than n^m)
n = 5: \(3^5 > 5^3\)
n = 6: \(3^6 > 6^3\)
You see that the difference between m^n and n^m is increasing in every step.)

Say m = 4
n = 5: \(4^5 > 5^4\) (m^n is already greater than n^m)
n = 6: \(4^6 > 6^4\)
n = 7: \(4^7 > 7^4\)
You see that the difference between m^n and n^m is increasing in every step.)

I hope you see the pattern. Let's forget about the cases where m = 1 and m = n.
In every case except m = 2, \(m^n > n^m\)
When m = 2, \(2^3 < 3^2\) and \(2^4 = 4^2\). Thereafter, \(m^n > n^m\)

It is a good idea to remember these relations.

Let's look at the question now.
Is \(m^n\) < \(n^m\)?

(1) m = \(\sqrt{n}\)
First of all, both m and n are integers so n must be a perfect square. Also, m will be smaller than n except when both are equal to 1.
m = 1/2/3/4/5/6 etc
n = 1/4/9/16/25/36 etc

If m = 1 and n = 1, we know \(m^n = n^m\)
If m = 2 and n = 4, we know \(m^n = n^m\)
For all other cases, we know that \(m^n > n^m\)

Hence the answer to the question is 'No'. Sufficient.

(2) n > 5
If m = 1, 1^6 < 6^1
If m = 2, 2^6 > 6^2
Not sufficient.

Answer (A)
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m^n < n^m

1) m=sqrt(n) => m^2 = n , putting this in above.

m^m^2 < m^2^m => m^2m < m^2m

which are equal, so NO. Sufficient.

2) n > 5 not sufficient

Ans: A. ( Am I missing something...?)
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Hi All,

This DS question can be solved by TESTing VALUES.

We're told that M and N are POSITIVE INTEGERS. We're asked if M^N < N^M. This is a YES/NO question.

Fact 1: M = \sqrt{N}

IF....
N = 1
M = 1
1^1 is NOT < 1^1 and the answer to the question is NO.

N = 4
M = 2
2^4 is NOT < 4^2 and the answer to the question is NO.

N = 9
M = 3
3^9 is NOT < 9^3 and the answer to the question is NO.
This pattern will continue; the answer to the question is ALWAYS NO.
Fact 1 is SUFFICIENT.

Fact 2: N > 5

This tells us NOTHING about the value of M, so this is probably insufficient. Here's the proof.

IF...
M = 1
N = 6
1^6 < 6^1 and the answer to the question is YES.

IF....
M = 6
N = 6
6^6 is NOT < 6^6 and the answer to the question is NO.
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT

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If m and n are positive integers, is m^n < n^m?

(1) m = sqrt(n) --> \(m^2=n\). Substitute \(n\) in the question: is \(m^{m^2}<(m^2)^m\)? --> is \(m^{m^2}<m^{2m}\)? Now, if \(m\) is 1 or 2, then \(m^{m^2}=m^{2m}\), so the answer is NO and if \(m\) is an integer greater than 2, then \(m^{m^2}>m^{2m}\), so the answer is still NO. Sufficient.

(2) n > 5. If \(m=1\), then the answer is YES but if \(m=2\), then the answer is NO. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


if I compare with base using "n" rather than "m"

I get
following equation after reduction :

m^n < n^m reduces to

n^(n/2) < (n)^sqrt (n)

means we need find if
n/2 < Sqrt (n), Given n is perfect square bcs m = sqrt(n) and m is integer.

for n=1 : yes
for n=4 : no
for n=64 : No
for n=9 : No

then how can we answer : A is sufficient.

on other side if n>5 then
Answer B: is always hold. So sufficient....

I am sure I must be wrong somewhere in logic!!!
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If m and n are positive integers, is m^n < n^m?

(1) m = sqrt(n) --> \(m^2=n\). Substitute \(n\) in the question: is \(m^{m^2}<(m^2)^m\)? --> is \(m^{m^2}<m^{2m}\)? Now, if \(m\) is 1 or 2, then \(m^{m^2}=m^{2m}\), so the answer is NO and if \(m\) is an integer greater than 2, then \(m^{m^2}>m^{2m}\), so the answer is still NO. Sufficient.

(2) n > 5. If \(m=1\), then the answer is YES but if \(m=2\), then the answer is NO. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


if I compare with base using "n" rather than "m"

I get
following equation after reduction :

m^n < n^m reduces to

n^(n/2) < (n)^sqrt (n)

means we need find if
n/2 < Sqrt (n), Given n is perfect square bcs m = sqrt(n) and m is integer.

for n=1 : yes
for n=4 : no
for n=64 : No
for n=9 : No

then how can we answer : A is sufficient.

on other side if n>5 then
Answer B: is always hold. So sufficient....

I am sure I must be wrong somewhere in logic!!!

Look at the highlighted steps only

n^(n/2) < (n)^sqrt (n)

for n=1 : yes The answer is not Yes it's No here as well because n^(n/2) will NOT be less than (n)^sqrt (n) for n=1

Hence consistent answer so SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: n>5

@n=6, and m=1, m^n will be less than n^m
@n=6, and m=2, m^n will NOT be less than n^m
NOT SUFFICIENT

I hope it helps!
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Forget the conventional way to solve DS questions.

We will solve this DS question using the variable approach.

Remember the relation between the Variable Approach, and Common Mistake Types 3 and 4 (A and B)[Watch lessons on our website to master these approaches and tips]

Step 1: Apply Variable Approach(VA)

Step II: After applying VA, if C is the answer, check whether the question is the key question.

StepIII: If the question is not a key question, choose C as the probable answer, but if the question is a key question, apply CMT 3 and 4 (A or B).

Step IV: If CMT3 or 4 (A or B) is applied, choose either A, B, or D.

Let's apply CMT (2), which says there should be only one answer for the condition to be sufficient. Also, this is an integer question and, therefore, we will have to apply CMT 3 and 4 (A or B).

To master the Variable Approach, visit https://www.mathrevolution.com and check our lessons and proven techniques to score high in DS questions.

Let’s apply the 3 steps suggested previously. [Watch lessons on our website to master these 3 steps]

Step 1 of the Variable Approach: Modifying and rechecking the original condition and the question.

We have to find the value Is \(m^n < n^m\) - where 'm' and 'n' are positive integers

Second and the third step of Variable Approach: From the original condition, we have 2 variables (m and n). To match the number of variables with the number of equations, we need 2 equations. Since conditions (1) and (2) will provide 1 equation each, C would most likely be the answer.

But we know that this is a key question [Integer question] and if we get an easy C as an answer, we will choose A or B.

Let’s take a look at each condition.

Condition(1) tells us that \(m = \sqrt{n}\).

=> \(m^2 = n\)

=> For n = 1 => m = 1: \(m^n = 1^1 = n^m - m^n < n^m \)- NO

=> For n = 2 => m = 4: \(m^n = 4^2 = 16 = n^m - m^n < n^m\) - NO

=> For n = 3 => m = 9: \(m^n = 9^3 > n^m = 3^9 - m^n < n^m\) - NO

Since the answer is a unique NO, the condition (1) is sufficient by CMT 1.


Condition(2) tells us that n > 5.

=> If m = 1 and n = 6: \(1^6 < 6^1 - m^n < n^m\) - YES

=> If m = 2 and n = 6: \(2^6 > 6^2 - m^n < n^m\) - NO

Since the answer is not a unique YES or a NO, the condition(2) is not sufficient by CMT 2.

Condition (1) alone is sufficient.

So, A is the correct answer.

Answer: A
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