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i got to the 8x8, meaning two chips, but it doesn't satisfy the 2nd condition of the purple coin worth "The purple chips are worth more than the green chips, but less than the red chips". am i missing something?

16(worth of purple coins)>15(worth of green coins)-- correct
16(worth of purple coins)<11(worth of red coins) --- ---- this is the issue
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Hi Bhanuodin007,

I think that the issue here is how you are interpreting the wording of the prompt. The intended meaning is that A (re: one) purple chip is worth than one green chip and less than one red chip. The reason we can make this particular deduction is that when we factor down 88,000 into its 'pieces', we have just 1 red chip, so neither the TOTAL of the purple chips NOR the TOTAL of the GREEN chips is less than the TOTAL of the red chips - thus, the question cannot be intending for us to deal with the sums of the individual chip colors.

Once you get to the point that you determine that a purple chip is worth 8 points - and there are two of those chips - then you've answered the question.

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In a certain game, a large bag is filled with blue, green, purple and red chips worth 1, 5, x and 11 points each, respectively. The purple chips are worth more than the green chips, but less than the red chips. A certain number of chips are then selected from the bag. If the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000, how many purple chips were selected?
A)1
B)2
C)3
D)4
E)5

The answer is B. I am struggling to understand how. But this is how I am approaching this question. Can someone please help?

Total value of chips = 88,000
Prime factors of 88,000 = 11 * 5^3 * 2^6
Also from question stem = 5<x<11.
We have to find the value of x?
Now, x cannot be 11 because as per question x<11.Now I am struggling after this.

\(88,000=2^6*5^3*11\), as no other chip's value is a multiple of 2, hence 2^6=64 must be the product of the values of the purple chips drawn. The value of the purple chip is a some power of 2, but more than 5 and less than 11, hence it's 8 (2^3). Thus 64 is a product of 2 purple chips: 8*8=64, so two purple chips were drawn.

Answer: B.


I was confused between D and B since 64 is a multiple of both 2 and 4. do we take only prime factors into consideration?
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Hi Jaya6,

Prime Factorization isn't actually necessary to answer this question - although you will likely need to do some type of 'division' to answer this prompt. Once you 'factor out' the possible 11s and 5s, what's left will account for the product of the value of all the purple chips (you'll find that it's 64). The prompt also tells us the value of a purple chip is greater than 5, but less than 11. I suspect that you probably know many of the standard 'squares' - so it shouldn't be too hard to determine that 64 = 8x8 - and that we have selected 2 purple chips).

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Bunuel I understood your initial explanation but was also wondering why p = 1 cannot work:
1 Purple (1 x 8) = 8
1 Red (1 x 11) = 11
200 Green (200 x 5) = 1,000
Total product value = 88,000
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Bunuel I understood your initial explanation but was also wondering why p = 1 cannot work:
1 Purple (1 x 8) = 8
1 Red (1 x 11) = 11
200 Green (200 x 5) = 1,000
Total product value = 88,000

Hi prateekgupta95,

The prompt tells us that we have to MULTIPLY the value of EACH of the chips together - and the end product will be 88,000.

IF.... you had 200 green chips (worth 5 points each), then the value of that piece of the calculation would be 5^200... (NOT 200 x 5).

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\(88,000=2^6*5^3*11\), as no other chip's value is a multiple of 2, hence 2^6=64 must be the product of the values of the purple chips drawn. The value of the purple chip is a some power of 2, but more than 5 and less than 11, hence it's 8 (2^3). Thus 64 is a product of 2 purple chips: 8*8=64, so two purple chips were drawn.

Answer: B.

I made a mess of this question. For some reason I thought question means that the worth of all the Purple chips picked should be greater than the worth of all the Green chips picked and less than all the Red chips picked. Question never says each purple chip is or a purple chip is worth more than a green chip.

Is this my weird mind or someone else also thought on similar lines?

Bunuel - You think my comprehension is way off?
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I have a general doubt.

why have we taken the equation in powers?
According to me it should be this:
1b+5g+xp+11r=88000

Can someone please explain
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I have a general doubt.

why have we taken the equation in powers?
According to me it should be this:
1b+5g+xp+11r=88000

Can someone please explain
Please pay attention to the highlited part in the stem:
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In a certain game, a large bag is filled with blue, green, purple and red chips worth 1, 5, x and 11 points each, respectively. The purple chips are worth more than the green chips, but less than the red chips. A certain number of chips are then selected from the bag. If the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000, how many purple chips were selected?
The question means that (5*5*...)(x*x*...)(11*...) = 88,000
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@Bunnel If you select 8 Blue chips (each valued at 1), then the answer would change to 1 Purple chip. How can we justify?
Another possibility is if we consider 0 Green and consider the value of purple as 10, then we can have 16 Blue, 1 Red & 3 Purples. 
Thus, I think the question is incorrect and missing details required to provide a single solution.
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Bunnel, thanks for the solution. I just had one confusion, we havent considered the blue chips at all
I worked out the number of purple chips as 1, considering blue chips also need to be selected.
Can you please help me clarifying this?
Sure. Since blue chips worth 1 point each then # of blue chips selected does not affect the product at all (for ANY product there can be ANY number of blue chips been selected). We are told that the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000. Now, # of blue chips selected can be: 0 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11), 1 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11*1), 2 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11*1^2), ..., 1,000,000 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11*1^(1,000,000)), ... basically ANY #.

Hope it's clear.

P.S. By the way, how did you even get that # of purple chips selected as 1 considering blue chips?
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@Bunnel If you select 8 Blue chips (each valued at 1), then the answer would change to 1 Purple chip. How can we justify?
Another possibility is if we consider 0 Green and consider the value of purple as 10, then we can have 16 Blue, 1 Red & 3 Purples. 
Thus, I think the question is incorrect and missing details required to provide a single solution.
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In a certain game, a large bag is filled with blue, green, purple and red chips worth 1, 5, x and 11 points each, respectively. The purple chips are worth more than the green chips, but less than the red chips. A certain number of chips are then selected from the bag. If the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000, how many purple chips were selected?
A)1
B)2
C)3
D)4
E)5

Bunnel, thanks for the solution. I just had one confusion, we havent considered the blue chips at all
I worked out the number of purple chips as 1, considering blue chips also need to be selected.
Can you please help me clarifying this?
Sure. Since blue chips worth 1 point each then # of blue chips selected does not affect the product at all (for ANY product there can be ANY number of blue chips been selected). We are told that the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000. Now, # of blue chips selected can be: 0 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11), 1 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11*1), 2 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11*1^2), ..., 1,000,000 (88,000=8^2*5^3*11*1^(1,000,000)), ... basically ANY #.

Hope it's clear.

P.S. By the way, how did you even get that # of purple chips selected as 1 considering blue chips?
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­The question is precise and correct. The number of blue chips cannot be determined and does not impact the overall calculation, as each blue chip is valued at 1 point. Additionally, each purple chip is specified to be worth more than 5 and less than 11 points.

Here are the point values:

Blue = 1 point
Green = 5 points
Purple = x points
Red = 11 points
" 0 Green and consider the value of purple as 10, then we can have 16 Blue, 1 Red & 3 Purple" would imply the product of the point values of the selected chips is 1^16 (for Blue) * 11^1 (for Red) * 10^3 (for Purple) = 11,000, not 88,000.

I suggest reviewing the question and the discussion again more carefully.­
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To determine how many purple chips were selected, we start by analyzing the given conditions and breaking down the product of the point values:

1. **Chip Values**:
- Blue chips: 1 point
- Green chips: 5 points
- Purple chips: \(x\) points (where \(5 < x < 11\))
- Red chips: 11 points

2. **Product of Point Values**:
The product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000.

We can express 88,000 as a product of its prime factors:
\[ 88,000 = 88 \times 1000 \]
\[ 88 = 8 \times 11 = 2^3 \times 11 \]
\[ 1000 = 10^3 = (2 \times 5)^3 = 2^3 \times 5^3 \]
Therefore:
\[ 88,000 = 2^3 \times 11 \times 2^3 \times 5^3 = 2^6 \times 5^3 \times 11 \]

3. **Prime Factor Analysis**:
Each type of chip contributes specific prime factors to the product. Let’s identify the possible factors for each chip:
- Blue chips (1 point): \(1 = 1\) (no contribution to prime factors)
- Green chips (5 points): \(5\)
- Purple chips (\(x\) points): \(x\)
- Red chips (11 points): \(11\)

4. **Factor Contribution**:
We need the factors \(2^6\), \(5^3\), and \(11\).

We know:
- Red chips contribute \(11\).
- Green chips contribute \(5\).

Let’s see how the chips combine to form \(2^6 \times 5^3 \times 11\).

- The 11 must come from exactly one red chip because 11 is a prime number.

Next, we need \(x\) to be a factor of 88,000 and fit within the range \(5 < x < 11\). Since \(x\) is a value between the green and red chips and \(5 < x < 11\), the possible value for \(x\) that fits between 5 and 11 is \(8\).

Thus, \(x = 8\) is a valid choice for the purple chips, meaning purple chips are worth 8 points.

5. **Purple Chips Contribution**:
- Purple chips contribute \(2^3\) because \(8 = 2^3\).

Putting it together:
\[ 88,000 = 2^6 \times 5^3 \times 11 \]
We already have:
- Red chips: 11 (1 chip)
- Green chips: 5 (3 chips)

Thus:
\[ 2^6 \] comes from:
\[ 2^6 = (2^3) \times (2^3) = (8) \times (8) \]
So, there must be 2 purple chips contributing \(2^3\) each.

Therefore, the number of purple chips selected is:
2
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I think I was the only one confused by the question.

In case some one else finds difficult to understand the question,

1. purple chips are worth more or less -> here they mean each purple chip and NOT the sum of all purple chips in bag. I think wording could have been better to avoid confusion.

2. product of point value -> ok this one is on me. I understand it means if there are 3 red chips(5 point for each). Product of point values will be 5*5*5.

So 88000 = 11 * 2^3 * 10^3 = 11* 2^3 * 2 ^3 * 5^3 = 11 * 2^6 * 5^3

So 11 is a given value => 11*1
5 is given value => 3 of 5 point each
Now remaining 64 which can be 2^6, 4^3, 8^2.
we are given value between 5 and 11. So 8^2.
Answer is 2 since we are asked for number of purple rather than value of purple.
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In a certain game, a large bag is filled with blue, green, purple and red chips worth 1, 5, x and 11 points each, respectively. The purple chips are worth more than the green chips, but less than the red chips. A certain number of chips are then selected from the bag. If the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000, how many purple chips were selected?
A)1
B)2
C)3
D)4
E)5

The answer is B. I am struggling to understand how. But this is how I am approaching this question. Can someone please help?

Total value of chips = 88,000
Prime factors of 88,000 = 11 * 5^3 * 2^6
Also from question stem = 5<x<11.
We have to find the value of x?
Now, x cannot be 11 because as per question x<11.Now I am struggling after this.
\(88,000=2^6*5^3*11\).

Since no other chip's value is a multiple of 2, it follows that 2^6 = 64 must be the product of the values of the purple chips drawn. The value of each purple chip is some power of 2, greater than 5 but less than 11, hence it's 8 (2^3). Therefore, 64 is the product of two purple chips: 8 * 8 = 64, indicating that two purple chips were drawn.

Answer: B.
­Hello Bunuel,

Could you explain more on "The product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000" this statement?­
Is it wrong to write 1B+5G+xP+11R = 88000?­
I understand why x is 2^3 but why is the answer 2 purple chips?

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In a certain game, a large bag is filled with blue, green, purple and red chips worth 1, 5, x and 11 points each, respectively. The purple chips are worth more than the green chips, but less than the red chips. A certain number of chips are then selected from the bag. If the product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000, how many purple chips were selected?
A)1
B)2
C)3
D)4
E)5

The answer is B. I am struggling to understand how. But this is how I am approaching this question. Can someone please help?

Total value of chips = 88,000
Prime factors of 88,000 = 11 * 5^3 * 2^6
Also from question stem = 5<x<11.
We have to find the value of x?
Now, x cannot be 11 because as per question x<11.Now I am struggling after this.
\(88,000=2^6*5^3*11\).

Since no other chip's value is a multiple of 2, it follows that 2^6 = 64 must be the product of the values of the purple chips drawn. The value of each purple chip is some power of 2, greater than 5 but less than 11, hence it's 8 (2^3). Therefore, 64 is the product of two purple chips: 8 * 8 = 64, indicating that two purple chips were drawn.

Answer: B.
­Hello Bunuel,

Could you explain more on "The product of the point values of the selected chips is 88,000" this statement?­

Is it wrong to write 1B+5G+xP+11R = 88000?
­not bunuel.

but I think you are adding up.
each point should be multiplied. If you have 5 of 3 points.
it should be 3^5 not 5*3.
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