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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the streets of Zurich.

(A) the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and

(B) the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they were decorated by local artists, and then

(C) the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had them decorated by local artists, and

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'Having' implies something more in the 'present' but it's clear that this action happened in the past
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Hello James,
Pardon my ignorance. However, I feel the above reasoning is erroneous.

Because, -ing modifiers are tenseless, and usually derive their tenses from the Main Clause or to the clause that they are attached to.

Having eaten food, I left for the class --> Its a legitimate way.
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Dear imhimanshu,
I'm responding to your p.m. James is perfectly correct, although perhaps he wasn't explicit about the reason. The question is about parallelism, and the issue is not one tense vs. another tense --- the issue is full verb vs. participle, which is one of the most common issues on the GMAT SC. Consider (A):
In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government
// commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
// having them decorated by local artists,
and
//set them up on the streets of Zurich.
If this were correct parallelism, we could make a complete stand-on-its-own sentence out of each branch.
(1) The Swiss government commissioned several lifesize fiberglass cow statues. That works as a full sentence. :-)
(2) The Swiss government having them decorated by local artists. PROBLEM! NOT A FULL SENTENCE! :-(
(3) The Swiss government set them up on the streets of Zurich. That works as a full sentence. :-)
By contrast, answer choice (C) has three full verbs in parallel.

The verb//participle//verb is one of the favorite mistakes structures on the GMAT. Beware of this --- it's a very common! More generally, the GMAT loves loading a sentence with all kinds of participial phrase & gerunds & modifying clauses ---- but no full verb! That's one of the classic mistake structures on the GMAT. See:
https://gmat.magoosh.com/lessons/914-the ... rb-mistake

Does all this make sense?
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In Choice C, All the 3 activities are given equal importance but in option A only 2 activities are given importance. Don't you think in C there is meaning change in this case ?? Your views please!!! The only problem I have with A is "ing modifier' does only provide information about the preceeding clause but does not go with the subject of the clause "The Swiss Govt". For this reason itself, we can remove A but then C does change the meaning!!
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The Swiss Government commissioned statues, having them decorated by local artisans.
Dear Mike,
Isn't the above mentioned sentence is correct. I am having hard time understanding the concept when parallelism is tested along with modifiers. In the question posted, isnt it a legitimate way of understanding that Swiss govt commisioned statues after getting them decorated from local artisans.
What is in the sentence that have triggered you to think that the sentence would probably be testing parallelism than modifiers.
Please help.
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Dear WoundedTiger & Himanshu,
Let's distinguish between (a) what's possible in the wide world of grammar, and (b) what the GMAT will ask you about. As it turns out, those two are not coextensive --- there are all kinds of subtle grammatical oddities that the GMAT SC will not touch with a ten-foot pole.

First of all, yes, this sentence,
The Swiss Government commissioned statues, having them decorated by local artisans.
by itself is 100% correct, and could be the correct answer to another, hypothetical SC question.

Here's the thing, though --- if the GMAT gives you a sentence of the form [subject] [verb form], [verb form], "and" [verb form] ---- then either
(1) all three verb forms will be the same or in parallel --- that's true over 97% of the time --- that's a very good default assumption to have
(2) in a rare case in which, say, the second verb form is an entirely different kind of activity, such that it would be [u]unambiguously impossible for the subject of the other verbs to be the performer of that particular activity[/u], then, yes, we could have [full verb] [participial modifier] "and" [full verb]. In other words, if we depart from pattern #1 at all, we need an unambiguously clear, darn-tootin' good reason to reject the parallelism option. This can be true in an instance of "false parallelism". For more on this idea, see:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/parallelis ... orrection/

Here, it's very clear that the section action, "having them decorated by local artisans" has as its subject the subject of the sentence, i.e. the same subject of the other two verbs, and so in GMAT-land, that's justification enough to make them all parallel. In the wide world of grammar, could we have other legitimate constructions? Of course we could, but the GMAT will not venture into those realms.

Is the meaning different between (A) & (C)?? --- even that's unclear. It's clear that the main subject, "The Swiss Government", is also the subject of the participle. Is "having them decorated by local artisans" a part of or explanation of "commissioning the statues"? My take is that "commissioning the statues" means they say --- "you people, make us these fiberglass cows", and then once they were made, they said to another group, the local artisans, "OK, now you folks decorate them." That's one interpretation. Insofar as there are multiple legitimate interpretations, we can't unambiguously charge (C) with the sin of "meaning change."

Does all this make sense?
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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(C)

D & E are out because cow statues didn't want to attract more tourists. It's the government.
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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IMO "C"
"B" has the problem of ambigious "THEY"
"D" and "E" are out as they have the problem of misplaced modifier
Let is "A" and "C"
"A" is not possible because "having them" over here is not parallel with "set them up "
so only left for me is"C"
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government, were decorated by local artists, and they
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go for C. almost went to A.
2/3 split eliminates D and E.
C is parallel as I later realize that "had" is not in "past perfect" tense rather is in "past" tense. "having" in A doesnot make the sentence sound.
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I go for D. Parallelism: commissioned, had.., and set...
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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IMO C)

Since Swiss govt set the statues up, D) and E) are out.
A) has tense problem in "having". In B) "they" is ambiguous
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Another C for parallism and proper meaning.
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C, undoubtedly.
Some others alter the meaning- it is the Swiss government that gets everything done, not the artists!
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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D,E out modifier issue

C maintains parallelism
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was between c and d

but i think d is passive and also it is not clear that who set them up.

so C
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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set them up on the streets of Z. Why does them only refer to statues and not tourists / artists.
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they

set them up on the streets of Z. Why does them only refer to statues and not tourists / artists.
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In any question, We need find the best choice..
If all options have "pronoun"..which possible can refer to multiple nouns..

Fit the noun that logically make sense.

I don't think you can set "tourists"/"artists" on the street ( I am not sure.. IF SWITZERLAND..does that ..:lol: :lol: )
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they

set them up on the streets of Z. Why does them only refer to statues and not tourists / artists.


In any question, We need find the best choice..
If all options have "pronoun"..which possible can refer to multiple nouns..

Fit the noun that logically make sense.

I don't think you can set "tourists"/"artists" on the street ( I am not sure.. IF SWITZERLAND..does that ..:lol: :lol: )
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I agree that swiss dont do it. The issue is not whether it logically makes sense or not but whether the pronoun has ambiguity or not. I guess we ignore it here because all the choices have them and most of all it is not underlined
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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Hi Guys!

Can anybody explain please what exactly is wrong with A.
It looks like "having them decorated by local artists" intends to modify the way the Swiss government commissioned the cow statues.
In this case, this construction is perfectly ok.
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Hi Luc,

The issue with A is highlighted below:

In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the streets of Zurich.

If you look at C, it has 'had' instead. This is the correct tense to match with 'commissioned' - they're parralel, and so correct.

'Having' implies something more in the 'present' but it's clear that this action happened in the past


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'Having' implies something more in the 'present' but it's clear that this action happened in the past
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Hello James,
Pardon my ignorance. However, I feel the above reasoning is erroneous.

Because, -ing modifiers are tenseless, and usually derive their tenses from the Main Clause or to the clause that they are attached to.

Having eaten food, I left for the class --> Its a legitimate way.
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In an attempt to attract more tourists, the Swiss government commissioned several lifesize
fiberglass cow statues, having them decorated by local artists, and set them up on the
streets of Zurich.

A. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues,
having them decorated by local artists, and
B. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, they
were decorated by local artists, and then
C. the Swiss government commissioned several life-size fiberglass cow statues, had
them decorated by local artists, and
D. several life-size fiberglass cow statues were commissioned by the Swiss
government, decorated by local artists, and then
E. several life-size fiberglass cow statues, commissioned by the Swiss government,
were decorated by local artists, and they
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Hello Mikemcgarry and Plumer250.

The explanation given by you does make C the Correct option but the question can also intrepreted as follows

To attract more Tourists, Swiss Govt did 2 things

1. Commissioned life -size fiberglass Cow statues and
2. Set them up on the streets of Zurich.

The construction will be of "X & Y type". In Choice A, "having them decorated by local artists" provides additional information about preceding clause that is Cow statues were decorated by local artists.

In Choice C, All the 3 activities are given equal importance but in option A only 2 activities are given importance.

Don't you think in C there is meaning change in this case ??

Your views please!!!

The only problem I have with A is "ing modifier' does only provide information about the preceeding clause but does not go with the subject of the clause "The Swiss Govt". For this reason itself, we can remove A but then C does change the meaning!!


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The Swiss Government commissioned statues, having them decorated by local artisans.

Dear Mike,
Isn't the above mentioned sentence is correct. I am having hard time understanding the concept when parallelism is tested along with modifiers. In the question posted, isnt it a legitimate way of understanding that Swiss govt commisioned statues after getting them decorated from local artisans.
What is in the sentence that have triggered you to think that the sentence would probably be testing parallelism than modifiers.

Please help.
Thanks
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