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In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.


A. it and apply primer before applying the paint

B. it and prime it and paint it

C. it, then prime it, then paint it

D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface

E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it

Originally posted by sharadGmat on 12 Aug 2006, 02:20.
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Renamed the topic, edited the question and added the OA.
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Well, I just went through this issue and while reading the MGMAT SC I saw a seperate topic on this problem. For your reference, it is shown below:

Sometimes we need to move an awkward subject or object to the back of the sentence. In these cases, we put an "it" in the sentence where the subject or object used to be. We call this use of it "Placeholder It". Do not look for a noun antecedent for a "Placeholder It".

Just look an example:

To Resist temptation is futile. (Awkward)
The subject of the sentence is the infinitve phrase to resist temptation. Although this sentence is grammatically correct, the GMAT rejects similar sentences on stylistic grounds.

IT is futile to resist temptation. (Correct)

"It" is now the grammatical subject. As a pronoun, it refers to the infinitive phrase. Under other circumstances, "it" can not normally refer to an infinitive.

Consider one more example:

It would hardly be fair for the meatpacking industry to blame regulators for the harm that it has inflicted upon itself in the sub-prime meat sector.

Above sentence is correct.

Reason: The antecedent of the first "it" (which is a Placeholder It) is the long infinitive phrase "to blame.....mortgage sector". The antecedent of the second "it" and of "itself" is industry.


Now if you apply this rule to the option A, I think it will be clear to you. :)

Note: All the wording used above is from MGMAT SC guide with all rights reserved :)
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i will go wtih "A".
surface is the only one it can refer to. What else can "it" refer to?
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Correct answer is A. Here's my explanation. Let me know if it helps.

1) First step is to find if there is any error with the underlined clause:
In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.

Does it correctly refers to a preceding noun? If you look at the previous clause In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface you will notice that there is only one subject the rough surface. Paint is not a noun as it is used in verb form. So it does correctly refer to a noun/subject. Remainder of the underline sentence looks fine as it correctly reflects the sequence of events: sand it and apply primer before applying the pain..

Now we know that A cud be the answer. Let us use POE on the rest.
B. it and prime it and paint it - the sequence of events is lost
C. it, then prime it, then paint it - repetion of 'it' makes it wordy
D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface - looks incorrect use of 'you'

E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it - because of the use of 'it', parallelism for 'and' is lost.
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In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.
(A) it and apply primer before applying the paint
(B) it and prime it and paint it

sand, prime and paint are related actions..hence are a list..In the list, only the last element must have ", and"
Eliminate

Let me tell you there are no pronoun reference errors.

"it is necessary"---this "it" is a dummy one...such as "It is sunny now"

second and third "it" refers to "surface"

It may have refer to "paint" However, paint is used as a verb.


(C) it, then prime it, then paint it

we understand the sequence even without "then"

List must end with ", and"



(D) the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface

"you" --has no antecedent at all...




(E) the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it

Last "it" here can refer to "surface" or "primer"

So, by POE, we get A

lets check if there are any errors with A

In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.

Pronoun reference errros: Nil

First "it" is dummy...such as "it is a sunny day"

second and third "it" refer to surface unambiguously


Parallelism: yes

to paint..to sand...to apply

"to" with apply is implicit as per parallelism of infinitive

what about "before applying the paint."

okie lets remove it and see if it makes sense

In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer

okie...we are left with a question

when to "sand" and "apply primer" before paint or after paint


Regarding "applying" -present participle..and is used correctly

"Choose A"
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In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.

(A) it and apply primer before applying the paint
(B) it and prime it and paint it
(C) it, then prime it, then paint it
(D) the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface
(E) the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it


Agree with OA.

A. parallel.
B. "it" is what?
C: "then" ..., "then" does not sound good.
D. "you"? who is you? nobody
E. incomlete and a run-on without a sublject.
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(A) it and apply primer before applying the paint

(B) it and prime it and paint it ( The original sentence only discusses what is necessary to evenly and effectievely paint a rough surface – no mention of if it is to be painted or not - this option changes the meaning)

(C) it, then prime it, then paint it ( The original sentence only discusses what is necessary to evenly and effectievely paint a rough surface – no mention of if it is to be painted or not - this option changes the meaning)

(D) the surface and apply primer before you
apply paint to the surface ( you – original sentence is indirect and the changed sentence is direct)

(E) the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it (Wordy tries avoiding the pronoun completely )
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Before we go into more advanced grammar, let us look at some basic grammar

(A) It and apply primer before applying the paint – seems ok because the place holder value of some pronouns is an accepted practice in formal English
(B) it and prime it and paint it – how many ands – basically wrong
C) it, then prime it, then paint it; and no and at all here; basically wrong
(D) the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface ; how many surfaces in a single sentence– unacceptable

(E) the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it; totally three surfaces and the two in the given choices are too many as many

Now can u see why A is the best. Incidentally, structural parallelism without proper conjugation is ungrammatical as in B and C

may not be a good GMAT worthy question , but definitely a good practice sample to start with , because of dealing with pronoun, punctuation and conjugation
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sharadGmat wrote:
In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.

A. it and apply primer before applying the paint
B. it and prime it and paint it
C. it, then prime it, then paint it
D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface
E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it


Can someone help me out and explain the role of "it" before the comma?
"...a rough surface, it is necessary..."

This "it" is different from the normal pronoun usage of it right?
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sharadGmat wrote:
In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.

A. it and apply primer before applying the paint
B. it and prime it and paint it
C. it, then prime it, then paint it
D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface
E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it


Can someone help me out and explain the role of "it" before the comma?
"...a rough surface, it is necessary..."

This "it" is different from the normal pronoun usage of it right?


Hello. "it" is placeholder "it" and does not refer to any preceding noun. For example: it is important to finish homework before going to class.

Hope it helps.
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Can you brief more on what grounds can we reject D over A
In A it can refer to the paint , the primer
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sharadGmat wrote:
In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.


A. it and apply primer before applying the paint

B. it and prime it and paint it

C. it, then prime it, then paint it

D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface

E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it



ver hard one.
we need before to make sequence clear, so, B, C and E are gone.
in C, there is no connection , so, C is out.
in E, "priver to the surface and then paint it" . why surface is repeated. it is better if we say "primer to it and then pint it".

now, look at choice D. it is hard to find error in D.
first, there is no "the surface" after "primer" though we have "the surface" after "paint to". this is not parallel. D is gone for this point. choice A eliminate "the surface" after "the paint", making "applying the paint " paralel with "apply primer" . A is better.

choice D is not parallem and choice D is also wordy. "surface" is repeated 2 time in unparalel way. choice A, use "it" for "surface" one time and is concise.

so, D is wrong because it is not parallel and wordy.

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sharadGmat wrote:
In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.


A. it and apply primer before applying the paint

B. it and prime it and paint it

C. it, then prime it, then paint it

D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface

E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it


give me one chance more .
choice B
we need "then" to make sequence. order of time is lost. B is gone
choice C
we need "and". a list needs "and". C is gone.
choice D
"surface" is repeated. "it" should be used for "surface" . this is wordy.
second thing is "you"
"it is nessessary to sand it" refers to no specific person. we do not know who "sand". the sentence talk about general action of "sand". but in the latter part of the sentence "you " appears. this case is not consistent. D is gone
choice E
"surface" is repeated. "it" should be used . "sand it, apply primer to it and paint it" is better.
choice A is superior than choice D and E, and ,so, is correct.
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Can you brief more on what grounds can we reject D over A
In A it can refer to the paint , the primer

teaser: I presume you re referring to the second 'it' as the first 'it' is just a placeholder. As per your reckoning, the following three pronoun references are possible for the second 'it' in choice A.
1. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand the surface and apply primer before applying the paint.
2. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand the primer and apply primer before applying the paint.
3. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand the paint and apply primer before applying the paint.
Start thinking which option is sensible. Do we ever sand the paint of the primer?
We should not forget the logic behind the pronouns, the ultimate decider. Or else, we will be missing the target
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sharadGmat wrote:
In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand it and apply primer before applying the paint.


A. it and apply primer before applying the paint

B. it and prime it and paint it

C. it, then prime it, then paint it

D. the surface and apply primer before you apply paint to the surface

E. the surface, apply primer to the surface and then paint it


HI GMATNinja, mikemcgarry, DmitryFarber, MagooshExpert (Carolyn), ccooley, GMATGuruNY, EMPOWERgmatVerbal, EducationAisle

Can you please help me with this SC? Are we rejecting D & E just because they are wordier? In B & C does it not it refers to rough surface
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Can you please help me with this SC? Are we rejecting D & E just because they are wordier? In B & C does it not it refers to rough surface
Instead of looking for structure, we can focus on the intended meaning of this sentence. The important part here is the initial modifier in order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, which provides the context for the rest of what the sentence should say.

A. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to (a) sand it and (b) apply primer before applying the paint.

Disregard the final modifier before applying the paint, as it is not part of the list of things are necessary to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface. This option says that we need to do two things (sand the surface and apply primer) in order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface.

What we would not want to do is to take the paint bit out of the modifier at the end and add it to the list as the third necessary thing. For example, take the following sentence:

In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to sand the surface, apply primer to the surface, and paint it.

If we unpack the list, we get:

In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface,
1. it is necessary to sand the surface,
2. it is necessary to apply primer to the surface,
and
3. it is necessary to paint it.

Effectively, this sentence tells us that in order to paint a rough surface evenly and effectively, we need to paint it (third item in the list). Take the meaning call: do we really want to say that in order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to then paint it? Or are two other things (sanding and primer) necessary before the paint is applied?

B. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to (a) sand it and (b) prime it and (c) paint it.

Apart from the additional and, this option has the list problem we just discussed.

C. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to (a) sand it, (b) then prime it, (c) then paint it.

Awkward usage of multiple thens. Additionally, this option doesn't even have an and to join the items of the list together.

D. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to (a) sand the surface and (b) apply primer before you apply paint to the surface.

In this option the list doesn't include paint, but this option is wordier (sand the surface instead of sand it and before you apply paint to the surface instead of before applying the paint). Additionally, there is no reason for the sentence to suddenly make this about a "you".

E. In order to evenly and effectively paint a rough surface, it is necessary to (a) sand the surface, (b) apply primer to the surface and (c) then paint it.

The last option is wordy and has the same list problem that option B has.
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