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In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

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In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

Kudos for a correct solution.

VERITAS PREP OFFICIAL SOLUTION:

We know that the question involves average speed. The case involves travelling at a particular average speed for one half of the journey and at another average speed for the other half of the journey.

So average speed of the entire trip will be given by 2ab/(a+b)

But the first problem is that we are given a range of speeds. How do we handle ‘at least 10’ and ‘no more than 50’ in equation form? We have learnt that we should focus on the extremities so let’s analyse the problem by taking the numbers are the extremities:10 and 50

Statement 1: In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.

What if Chris drives at an average speed of 10 mph in the morning and averages 100 mph for the entire journey? What will be his average speed in the evening? Perhaps around 200, right? Let’s see.

100 = 2*10*b/(10 + b)

1000 + 100b = 20b

1000 = -80b

b = – 1000/80

How can speed be negative?

Let’s hold on here and try the same calculation for statement 2 too.

Statement 2: In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

If Chris drives at an average speed of 50 mph in the evening, and averages 100 mph, let’s find his average speed in the morning.

100 = 2a*50/(a + 50)

100a + 5000 = 100a

5000 = 0

This doesn’t make any sense either!

What is going wrong? Look at it conceptually:

Say, Toronto is 100 miles away from Oakville. If Chris wants his average speed to be 100 mph over the entire trip, he should cover 100+100 = 200 miles in 2 hrs.

What happens when he travels at 10 mph in the morning? He takes 100/10 = 10 hrs to reach Oakville in the morning. He has already taken more time than what he had allotted for the entire round trip. Now, no matter what his speed in the evening, his average speed cannot be 100mph. Even if he reaches Oakville to Toronto in the blink of an eye, he would have taken 10 hours and then some time to cover the total 200 miles distance. So his average speed cannot be equal to or more than 200/10 = 20 mph.

Similarly, if he travels at 50 mph in the evening, he takes 2 full hours to travel 100 miles (one side distance). In the morning, he would have taken some time to travel 100 miles from Toronto to Oakville. Even if that time is just a few seconds, his average speed cannot be 100 mph under any circumstances.

But statement 1 says that his speed in morning was at least 10 mph which means that he could have traveled at 10 mph in the morning or at 100 mph. In one case, his average speed for the round trip cannot be 100 mph and in the other case, it can very well be. Hence statement 1 alone is not sufficient.

On the other hand, statement 2 says that his speed in the evening was 50 mph or less. This means he would have taken AT LEAST 2 hours in the morning. So his average speed for the round trip cannot be 100 mph under any circumstances. So statement 2 alone is sufficient to answer this question with ‘No’.

Takeaway: If your average speed is s for a certain trip, your average speed for half the distance must be more than s/2.
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In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

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IMO : B

Let the distance between Toronto and Oakville be 100miles

Avg Speed = $$\frac{Total Distance traveled}{Total time taken}$$

Thus total distance covered will be 200 miles (from Toronto to Oakville 100+ 100 and from Oakville to Toronto )

Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

Avg Speed < 100
$$\frac{200}{Total Time}$$ <100

Total Time > 2hrs

Statement 1: In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.

If Chris travels at 10 mph in the mrng he will take 10 hrs to reach Oakville. Thus Total time > 2hrs Satisfies
If Chris travels at 200mph then he will take 30 mins to reach. We don't have evening data to confirm the condition.
Hence not sufficient

Statement 2: In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

If Chris travels @ 50mph in the evening then he will take 2hrs to reach Toronto.
Thus minimum time taken will always be 2hrs
Thus total time always will be > 2hrs.
Hence Sufficient
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Bunuel wrote:
In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

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IMO the answer is E, because
Statement 1 Not evening speed is given ==> Insuffient
Statement 2 No morning speed is given ==> Insuffient

Combined
Evening speed max is 49.9 and morning speed can be any thing greater than 10 which drives the avg speed either sides of inequality. Hence E
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18 Aug 2015, 11:37
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In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

Kudos for a correct solution.

+1 for E.
Statement 1:Avg speed =Atleast 10 miles per hour(can be 1000 or 50 or 100). Insufficient
Statement 2: Avg speed from O to T is <=50 miles per hour. Insufficient. No info about anything else.
Even combining both, we can't solve
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18 Aug 2015, 19:43
IMO E,
seconds statement is out.
1st statement says at least 10, hence actual speed can be anything above 10, which can change the answer to below 100 miles or above 100miles
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20 Aug 2015, 21:47
IMO C
Statement 1 not sufficient since no information about the evening trip is given. Statement 2 not sufficient since no information about morning trip is given.
But combining both we have formula
Avg speed=2(s1*s2)/(s1+s2)
It can be determined. Hence C
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the problem seems complex but the solution is easy, just solve the inequality.
Now, the average speed should be 2/ (1/ v1 + 1 / v2 ) < 100?
From each st, we can see that change the sign every time we use reciprocal, then we should find the answer
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The way I solved this is this:

Average Speed for total trip= 2D/(T1+T2) where D is trip from T to O and T1 and T2 are the times taken for each way.

The question can be simplified to arrive at D>50(T1+T2)?

Statement 1 implies that D>=10T1. This is insufficient

Statement 2 implies that D<=50T2. This is sufficient since this means that D<50(T1+T2) and hence answer is no.

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Hi,

Let V1 be velocity from toronto to oakvilee, V2 be velocity from oakville to toronto.

Average Velocity = 2(v1 * v2)/(v1+v2),
Question is => 2(v1 * v2)/(v1+v2) < 100?

Statement1
given v1 >= 10, so if both v1 = v2 = 102, the average velocity > 100,
if both v1 = v2 = 98, the average velocity < 100. -> InSuff

Statement2
given v2 <= 50,

Let v2 = 50,
let us assume that average velocity < 100
2 * (50 v1) / (50 + v1) < 100,
rearranging,
100 v1 < 5000 + 100 v1,
0 < 5000 => which is definitely true, so our assumption average velocity < 100 is true.

even if v1 were less than 50 (say, 40)
then above eqn becomes -20v1 < 4000, which is definitely true, as v1 will be positive,
So no matter whatever v1 be, as long as v2 <= 50, average velocity for entire trip is < 100.

Suff

Hence B
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Bunuel wrote:
In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

Kudos for a correct solution.

IMO : B

Let the distance between Toronto and Oakville be 100miles

Avg Speed = $$\frac{Total Distance traveled}{Total time taken}$$

Thus total distance covered will be 200 miles (from Toronto to Oakville 100+ 100 and from Oakville to Toronto )

Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

Avg Speed < 100
$$\frac{200}{Total Time}$$ <100

Total Time > 2hrs

Statement 1: In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.

If Chris travels at 10 mph in the mrng he will take 10 hrs to reach Oakville. Thus Total time > 2hrs Satisfies
If Chris travels at 200mph then he will take 30 mins to reach. We don't have evening data to confirm the condition.
Hence not sufficient

Statement 2: In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

If Chris travels @ 50mph in the evening then he will take 2hrs to reach Toronto.
Thus minimum time taken will always be 2hrs
Thus total time always will be > 2hrs.
Hence Sufficient

But in statement 2, isn't it required that time be greater than 2? it's equal to 2 here...how is B correct then? can someone please help me out?
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VenoMfTw wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
In the morning, Chris drives from Toronto to Oakville and in the evening he drives back from Oakville to Toronto on the same road. Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

(1) In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.
(2) In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

Kudos for a correct solution.

IMO : B

Let the distance between Toronto and Oakville be 100miles

Avg Speed = $$\frac{Total Distance traveled}{Total time taken}$$

Thus total distance covered will be 200 miles (from Toronto to Oakville 100+ 100 and from Oakville to Toronto )

Was his average speed for the entire round trip less than 100 miles per hour?

Avg Speed < 100
$$\frac{200}{Total Time}$$ <100

Total Time > 2hrs

Statement 1: In the morning, Chris drove at an average speed of at least 10 miles per hour while travelling from Toronto to Oakville.

If Chris travels at 10 mph in the mrng he will take 10 hrs to reach Oakville. Thus Total time > 2hrs Satisfies
If Chris travels at 200mph then he will take 30 mins to reach. We don't have evening data to confirm the condition.
Hence not sufficient

Statement 2: In the evening, Chris drove at an average speed which was no more than 50 miles per hour while travelling from Oakville to Toronto.

If Chris travels @ 50mph in the evening then he will take 2hrs to reach Toronto.
Thus minimum time taken will always be 2hrs
Thus total time always will be > 2hrs.
Hence Sufficient

But in statement 2, isn't it required that time be greater than 2? it's equal to 2 here...how is B correct then? can someone please help me out?

It is implied that the morning trip will take time more than zero units of time... (unless teleportation is considered) so Total time will be 2+More than zero which is grater than 2.
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