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given condition \(|x| + x > |y| + y\)
would be true only when both x,y are >0
#1
\(xy > 0\)
if both x,y are -ve then given target is 0
if both x,y are +ve then yes and no , because values of x,y are not known
insufficient
#2
x+y<0
either both are -ve numbers then '0' to target
or either of x,y is -ve or else both are -ver
insufficient
from 1 &2
we can say that x,y are both -ve so target value is 0 \(|x| + x > |y| + y\) and NO to condition
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Is \(|x| + x > |y| + y\) ?

(1) \(xy > 0\)
(2) \(x + y < 0\)

 


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In my opinion it is E.

(1) is not sufficient. Lets take x=-1 and y=-1 ------> 1-1> 1-1 so the answer is NO. But if we take x=1 and Y=-1 the condition will be as follow: 2>0 which is YES

You can demostrate in the same way that point 2 is not .
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Is \(|x| + x > |y| + y\) ?

(1) \(xy > 0\)
(2) \(x + y < 0\)

\(|x| + x > |y| + y\)
What does it tell us?
(I) If both are negative => \(-x+x>-y+y……0>0\). Answer is NO.
(II) If both are positive => \(x+x>y+y……2x>2y…….x>y\). We will require further info on ‘Is x>y?’
(III) If both are different signs => x>0 and y<0 will give YES as answer, and x<0 and y>0 will give NO as answer.

(1) \(xy > 0\)
Both have same sign, so cases I and II possible.
Insufficient

(2) \(x + y < 0\)
One is surely negative, but other could be either.
Cases I and III possible.
Insufficient


Combined
Case I => Answer is NO.
Sufficient


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Hey Bunuel, chetan2u. quick doubt, I did squaring on both sides and reduced the problem statement to |x||y| < xy. But then this reduced form can be solved by Statement 1 alone.

What is wrong with this approach? can you please explain.
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Is |x| + x > |y| + y ?

(1) \(xy > 0\)

This statement implies that \(x\) and \(y\) have the same sign.

If both are negative, \(|x| = -x\) and \(|y| = -y\), and the question becomes: is \(-x + x > -y + y\)? This further translates to: is \(0 > 0\)? The answer to this question is NO.

If both are positive, \(|x| = x\) and \(|y| = y\), and the question becomes: is \(x + x > y + y\)? This further translates to: is \(x > y\)? The answer to this question can be both YES and NO.

Not sufficient.

(2) \(x + y < 0\)

This statement is clearly insufficient. For instance, consider \(x = 0\) and \(y = -1\) for a NO answer, and \(x = 1\) and \(y = -2\) for a YES answer.

(1)+(2) From (1) we have that \(x\) and \(y\) have the same sign, and from (2) we have that the sum of \(x\) and \(y\) is negative. Hence, both \(x\) and \(y\) must be negative. In (1), we deduced that if both are negative, the question becomes whether \(0 > 0\), the answer to which is NO. Sufficient.


Answer: C
Hey Bunuel, chetan2u. quick doubt, I did squaring on both sides and reduced the problem statement to |x||y| < xy. But then this reduced form can be solved by Statement 1 alone.

What is wrong with this approach? can you please explain.

I guess you squared |x| - |y| > y - x to get |x||y| < xy. Couple of points:

1. Squaring is usually done to eliminate absolute values and simplify the inequality. But here, the absolute values are still there, so squaring doesn't really help.

2. You can only square inequalities when both sides are nonnegative. In this case, |x| - |y| and y - x could both be negative, so squaring isn’t valid.

3. Also, pure algebraic questions are no longer a part of the DS syllabus of the GMAT.

DS questions in GMAT Focus encompass various types of word problems, such as:

  • Word Problems
  • Work Problems
  • Distance Problems
  • Mixture Problems
  • Percent and Interest Problems
  • Overlapping Sets Problems
  • Statistics Problems
  • Combination and Probability Problems

While these questions may involve or necessitate knowledge of algebra, arithmetic, inequalities, etc., they will always be presented in the form of word problems. You won’t encounter pure "algebra" questions like, "Is x > y?" or "A positive integer n has two prime factors..."

Check GMAT Syllabus for Focus Edition

You can also visit the Data Sufficiency forum and filter questions by OG 2024-2025, GMAT Prep (Focus), and Data Insights Review 2024-2025 sources to see the types of questions currently tested on the GMAT.

So, you can ignore this question.

Hope it helps.­
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Got it. Thanks a lot.
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Official Solution:


Is |x| + x > |y| + y ?

(1) \(xy > 0\)

This statement implies that \(x\) and \(y\) have the same sign.

If both are negative, \(|x| = -x\) and \(|y| = -y\), and the question becomes: is \(-x + x > -y + y\)? This further translates to: is \(0 > 0\)? The answer to this question is NO.

If both are positive, \(|x| = x\) and \(|y| = y\), and the question becomes: is \(x + x > y + y\)? This further translates to: is \(x > y\)? The answer to this question can be both YES and NO.

Not sufficient.

(2) \(x + y < 0\)

This statement is clearly insufficient. For instance, consider \(x = 0\) and \(y = -1\) for a NO answer, and \(x = 1\) and \(y = -2\) for a YES answer.

(1)+(2) From (1) we have that \(x\) and \(y\) have the same sign, and from (2) we have that the sum of \(x\) and \(y\) is negative. Hence, both \(x\) and \(y\) must be negative. In (1), we deduced that if both are negative, the question becomes whether \(0 > 0\), the answer to which is NO. Sufficient.


Answer: C
Hey Bunuel, chetan2u. quick doubt, I did squaring on both sides and reduced the problem statement to |x||y| < xy. But then this reduced form can be solved by Statement 1 alone.

What is wrong with this approach? can you please explain.

I guess you squared |x| - |y| > y - x to get |x||y| < xy. Couple of points:

1. Squaring is usually done to eliminate absolute values and simplify the inequality. But here, the absolute values are still there, so squaring doesn't really help.

2. You can only square inequalities when both sides are nonnegative. In this case, |x| - |y| and y - x could both be negative, so squaring isn’t valid.

3. Also, pure algebraic questions are no longer a part of the DS syllabus of the GMAT.

DS questions in GMAT Focus encompass various types of word problems, such as:

  • Word Problems
  • Work Problems
  • Distance Problems
  • Mixture Problems
  • Percent and Interest Problems
  • Overlapping Sets Problems
  • Statistics Problems
  • Combination and Probability Problems

While these questions may involve or necessitate knowledge of algebra, arithmetic, inequalities, etc., they will always be presented in the form of word problems. You won’t encounter pure "algebra" questions like, "Is x > y?" or "A positive integer n has two prime factors..."

Check GMAT Syllabus for Focus Edition

You can also visit the Data Sufficiency forum and filter questions by OG 2024-2025, GMAT Prep (Focus), and Data Insights Review 2024-2025 sources to see the types of questions currently tested on the GMAT.

So, you can ignore this question.

Hope it helps.­
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