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Not to turn this into an LSAT forum, but...

I bought some of the official tests from LSAC, and it seems that the scaled score is more or less (180 - # missed) at the high range. I think I had gotten around 13 total wrong on one of the few, and I wound up with a 167 , and where 10 wrong out of the ~ 100 was a 170.

The prep test book I have, which seems like a reputable one, listed a scale where 10 wrong = 175, and 15 = 170 or so, I think. It's not a huge difference, but it is significant. I'd have to think the scale shown on the official exams is what was actually used, but why the (advantageous) difference in the prep test book?
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10 wrong = 175 is unheard of on the modern lsat. which book is this may i ask? I would highly recommend PowerScore LR Bible and LG bible.
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10 wrong = 175 is unheard of on the modern lsat. which book is this may i ask? I would highly recommend PowerScore LR Bible and LG bible.

Master the LSAT by Jeff Kolby

https://www.amazon.com/Master-LSAT-Softw ... 1889057118
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you should be expecting more like anywhere from a -12 to -9 for a 170 depending on the difficulty of the test. what is your most problematic section thus far?
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Also, Penn is an oddball of sorts. I believe they have a Northwestern-esque 3-year program, but also a 4-year program for those who started in law school (yet NOT a 4-year option for starting at Wharton). So if I want to do the joint program there, I have to take the LSAT now.

Otherwise, I'd probably just abandon the December sitting and prep for next June or something and apply during first year at b-school, wherever that is.
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you should be expecting more like anywhere from a -12 to -9 for a 170 depending on the difficulty of the test. what is your most problematic section thus far?

Logic games timing...sometimes. There have been some I just have blown through, but others I get hung up on one and lose concentration completely.

LR is good if I'm focused.

RC has just not been going well for some reason. It's making me feel like a complete moron.
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my advice is to absolutely kill logic games. your high gmat means you have the logic/analytical skills to make it happen. aim for -0 or -1 every time. its also the most "practicable" section.

rc is tough to improve. given your timeline, i would go all in on LG.
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good luck with the LSAT. i took it a couple of years back after prepping inconsistently for a couple of weeks... did not go well at all. however, i think the LSAT studying helped with the GMAT. hopefully, since youve already taken the GMAT, you will find the reverse works as well (GMAT helping with the LSAT).
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good luck with the LSAT. i took it a couple of years back after prepping inconsistently for a couple of weeks... did not go well at all. however, i think the LSAT studying helped with the GMAT. hopefully, since youve already taken the GMAT, you will find the reverse works as well (GMAT helping with the LSAT).

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about here...the likelihood of a bad experience (and the ramifications). When I took the GMAT, I knew that an off day was maybe a 730, and that I could still put together a good app for each school. For these, a bad day here is 165 or less (0 chance at U of C or Harvard), a decent day is high 160s (slight chance at U of C) and a really good day would be low 170s (which I actually think would be enough to have a fighting chance at Harvard with my GPA and other components).

Bottom line, I pretty much have to perform my best to have even a decent shot at the law schools. Just how I like it.
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good luck with the LSAT. i took it a couple of years back after prepping inconsistently for a couple of weeks... did not go well at all. however, i think the LSAT studying helped with the GMAT. hopefully, since youve already taken the GMAT, you will find the reverse works as well (GMAT helping with the LSAT).

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about here...the likelihood of a bad experience (and the ramifications). When I took the GMAT, I knew that an off day was maybe a 730, and that I could still put together a good app for each school. For these, a bad day here is 165 or less (0 chance at U of C or Harvard), a decent day is high 160s (slight chance at U of C) and a really good day would be low 170s (which I actually think would be enough to have a fighting chance at Harvard with my GPA and other components).

Bottom line, I pretty much have to perform my best to have even a decent shot at the law schools. Just how I like it.

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Interesting conversation. I thought about taking the LSAT a while back and felt that the biggest challenge wasn't the difficulty of the questions but completing the test in time. I was having a specially difficult time completing the logic games in time. Does anyone have any insight about this?
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Interesting conversation. I thought about taking the LSAT a while back and felt that the biggest challenge wasn't the difficulty of the questions but completing the test in time. I was having a specially difficult time completing the logic games in time. Does anyone have any insight about this?

Logic games is just practice. Most people should be able to get every problem right, if given enough time. You do enough that you begin to recognize the different types of setups and questions asked. There are probably certain tricks you can learn to in order to do some more quickly too. But it really boils down to how quickly and error-free you can work; not that this isn't also the approach to the other sections, but you could spend hours debating some logical reasoning or reading comprehension questions as to the merits of each. There is definitively one answer that is 100% right in logic games, and the rest are 100% wrong.
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Does anyone have thoughts on weaving into the law school PS the result of b-school decision (obviously if an admit)?

I was just thinking of the timing of it all. I'll have my decisions at each of the 4 b-schools by mid-December, but I'm just taking the LSAT on 12/5, which won't be sent until late December, so by then I'll know the b-school decisions (and could adjust my PS as desired).

Maybe this would come across as trying to weasel my way in? Maybe better just to note it in an addendum? Other thoughts?
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Hey, I've always been curious on how LSAT scores compared to GMAT. I know for the comparable scores, the LSAT percentile ranking is higher (i.e. GMAT-700 to LSAT-170) than GMAT's. For those that took both, how does your two score compare number-wise, and percentile-wise?
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Hey, I've always been curious on how LSAT scores compared to GMAT. I know for the comparable scores, the LSAT percentile ranking is higher (i.e. GMAT-700 to LSAT-170) than GMAT's. For those that took both, how does your two score compare number-wise, and percentile-wise?

Kind of confused what you mean by comparable scores.

For the GMAT, I think that 750 is roughly 98th percentile, whereas a 170 is about that for the LSAT.

All I know is that I feel like getting the 98th percentile is going to be a lot more difficult on the LSAT.
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gmat 700 != lsat 170. i would say gmat 700 = lsat 165 or so.

the lsat has a very long tail in the high end. 170 = 98, 172=99... 173-180 are all varying degrees within the 99 percentile, and unlike b-schools every point counts (like 175 > 174, 174 > 173 in terms of admits/scholarships).

PB, i would talk up the jd/mba to some degree. its a unique combo and schools probably like those that are interested and can qualify for both (ie have the well roundedness/work exp for mba and the studiousness for LSAT/GPA combo into LS).
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LSAT tomorrow!

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