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No scholarship at all for me. Got the email this morning. Going to be really hard to justify the costs without any assistance from the school. Did anyone else receive decisions about scholarships today?
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Hey all -

I have a question for everyone that has either attended or been invited to one of Johnson's scholarship weekends. I'm probably WAYYY over analyzing this, but I'm interested to hear if people did pay or will pay their deposit prior to attending the weekend (assuming they're set on attending Johnson regardless of financial aid outcome)? Or did people delibrately hold off until after the scholarship decisions were made? I guess my point is - do you think paying your deposit clearly signals your intent and so Johnson might be LESS likely to offer you money bc they might feel they already have you "wrapped up" so to speak and dont need to throw aid your way to entice you. On the flip side, maybe its good to pay your deposit and show your intent bc no one likes rejection so Johnson might be MORE likely to offer you money if they know you will definitely be attending their school in the fall. Am I really over analyzing this or is it worth considering? For the record - i have not yet paid my deposit, but will be attending Johnson in the fall regardless of how anything else shakes up. I'm just debating whether or not i should just pay my deposit and get it over with or still play a little "hard to get".

Interesting question.

First, I do think you are WAYYY over analyzing. :-D But I think most applicants, including myself, over analyze when it comes to admissions (see discussion about on campus vs off campus interviews a few posts back).

According to a Q&A hosted by Accepted.com with Randall Sawyer, Assistant Dean of Admissions at Johnson (https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rnell.aspx), it sounds like Johnson uses scholarships to attract and persuade applicants to pick its program over another.

Quote:
Randall Sawyer: What's different at graduate school than at undergrad is that scholarships are merit based, not need based...There is competition for the top students, not just in the United States, but around the world. And sometimes that has a fiduciary obligation or scholarship answer to it, and we do want to be competitive.

He says in another Q&A about WL (https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rnell.aspx):
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You would say something to the effect of, “Randall, I am in X school which is your competitor, and they gave me $5,000 a semester. I really want to go to Cornell, could you match it?” That’s a conversation we would have.

Therefore, it sounds like the scholarship money, much like a signing bonus, is their way of getting you to commit to Johnson. They are even willing to negotiate if they really want you. One could argue that if you commit to them without having received any scholarship, they have no incentive to offer you anything.

However, in reality, I don't think this issues comes up often. They are suppose to give you scholarship info when you get the admit phone call. They won't accept you thinking, "This applicant is really awesome and I want to give him/her scholarship, but maybe if I hold off a few weeks, he/she will just accept and I can save some money." They are not going to play chicken with their top applicants (the people who get money).

In your case, since you are invited to the Fellowship weekend, you won't know until after the weekend whether you got any money. I would just hold off until after the weekend.
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Received my invite to interview yesterday. R3 applicant, app went under review Feb 10th. Interviewing up in Ithaca on March 14th.
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Just to recap for others who are interested.

Application Under Review: 2/2
Interview Invitation: 2/14
Interview: 2/22 in Ithaca.

Had a great interview, really enjoyed the campus and all of the students that I met. Was lucky enough that the class I visited was being guest-lectured by the current dean so that was pretty cool. GL to everyone else still waiting. Can't wait for the end of March.
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No scholarship at all for me. Got the email this morning. Going to be really hard to justify the costs without any assistance from the school. Did anyone else receive decisions about scholarships today?

gmatalias, did your email say you're on the waitlist for scholarship ?
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No scholarship at all for me. Got the email this morning. Going to be really hard to justify the costs without any assistance from the school. Did anyone else receive decisions about scholarships today?

gmatalias, did your email say you're on the waitlist for scholarship ?

Mine did. April 27th.

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Who is going up to Ithaca next weekend for scholly weekend? Interested in connecting with any of you especially if youll be coming up from NYC the morning of on the 630 bus :)
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No scholarship at all for me. Got the email this morning. Going to be really hard to justify the costs without any assistance from the school. Did anyone else receive decisions about scholarships today?

gmatalias, did your email say you're on the waitlist for scholarship ?


Yep it said I was on the waitlist and that I would hear back on April 27th. I wonder if everyone is just automatically defaulted to the waitlist if they don't get an initial scholarship.
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Hey All,
I applied in the 1st deadline and am on the wait-list since mid Dec. Haven't heard back anything after that. Now I see that even third round interview invites are out as well. My chances of getting an invite seems bleak now. This wait is killing me.
Do I still have any chances of getting an interview invite or it's almost over?
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Anyone whose application went under review on or after 2/17 got an invite?
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Are there any admits having trouble joining the Ning social networking group? I have clicked on the link in the Offer of Admission letter, input my email per the instructions, and then receive a message saying I'm not welcome in the group.
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I got an invite to interview yesterday do not remember when I went under review.
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I got an invite to interview yesterday do not remember when I went under review.

Hey, rgupta, would you mind checking your under review email as a reference? Thanks!
Waiting anxiously...
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I got an invite to interview yesterday do not remember when I went under review.

Hey, rgupta, would you mind checking your under review email as a reference? Thanks!
Waiting anxiously...

It was like 2.5 weeks ago or so so whatever that means for date.
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I got an invite to interview yesterday do not remember when I went under review.

Hey, rgupta, would you mind checking your under review email as a reference? Thanks!
Waiting anxiously...

It was like 2.5 weeks ago or so so whatever that means for date.

Thanks! It helps. Seems I need to wait for some days...
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Hey all -

I have a question for everyone that has either attended or been invited to one of Johnson's scholarship weekends. I'm probably WAYYY over analyzing this, but I'm interested to hear if people did pay or will pay their deposit prior to attending the weekend (assuming they're set on attending Johnson regardless of financial aid outcome)? Or did people delibrately hold off until after the scholarship decisions were made? I guess my point is - do you think paying your deposit clearly signals your intent and so Johnson might be LESS likely to offer you money bc they might feel they already have you "wrapped up" so to speak and dont need to throw aid your way to entice you. On the flip side, maybe its good to pay your deposit and show your intent bc no one likes rejection so Johnson might be MORE likely to offer you money if they know you will definitely be attending their school in the fall. Am I really over analyzing this or is it worth considering? For the record - i have not yet paid my deposit, but will be attending Johnson in the fall regardless of how anything else shakes up. I'm just debating whether or not i should just pay my deposit and get it over with or still play a little "hard to get".

Interesting question.

First, I do think you are WAYYY over analyzing. :-D But I think most applicants, including myself, over analyze when it comes to admissions (see discussion about on campus vs off campus interviews a few posts back).

According to a Q&A hosted by Accepted.com with Randall Sawyer, Assistant Dean of Admissions at Johnson (https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rnell.aspx), it sounds like Johnson uses scholarships to attract and persuade applicants to pick its program over another.

Quote:
Randall Sawyer: What's different at graduate school than at undergrad is that scholarships are merit based, not need based...There is competition for the top students, not just in the United States, but around the world. And sometimes that has a fiduciary obligation or scholarship answer to it, and we do want to be competitive.

He says in another Q&A about WL (https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rnell.aspx):
Quote:
You would say something to the effect of, “Randall, I am in X school which is your competitor, and they gave me $5,000 a semester. I really want to go to Cornell, could you match it?” That’s a conversation we would have.

Therefore, it sounds like the scholarship money, much like a signing bonus, is their way of getting you to commit to Johnson. They are even willing to negotiate if they really want you. One could argue that if you commit to them without having received any scholarship, they have no incentive to offer you anything.

However, in reality, I don't think this issues comes up often. They are suppose to give you scholarship info when you get the admit phone call. They won't accept you thinking, "This applicant is really awesome and I want to give him/her scholarship, but maybe if I hold off a few weeks, he/she will just accept and I can save some money." They are not going to play chicken with their top applicants (the people who get money).

In your case, since you are invited to the Fellowship weekend, you won't know until after the weekend whether you got any money. I would just hold off until after the weekend.


That was all great info and advice. Thank you oodl for taking the time to share that. I'll prob still play a little hard to get and just hold off until after next weekend. Admissions to b school is ALOT more complicated than dating ever was!
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Those that have been admitted, how long did it take for you to get the admission package in the mail? I was admitted almost 2 weeks ago and still haven't received anything?

Thanks!
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