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It won't get you an internship, or even an interview, but if you do get interviews it'll help you answer the question about how interested/passionate you are about IM, which is one of the biggest questions/concerns.

60 x 4 = 240 hrs is more than enough time, especially for L1.

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Good to know that CFA L1s won't help much with IM internships, although I am surprised. Why don't CFA L1s help much? Isn't the course material designed for the IM field?

Also, does it help procure interviews for internships with trading/strategy (financial product strategy) groups?

I think the best plan is: If I get admitted into an MBA program, I'll not do the CFA L1.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Cougar blue, actually I did speak to a couple of current students, and some people at a hedge fund, and they said it helps, and it's 2-fold.

1. It shows that as a career switcher, you have genuine interest in the field and have taken some proactive steps before coming to school.

2. Compared to other career switchers, you have an incremental advantage. They'd prefer someone who knows the lingo/markets than a complete greenhorn.

Thanks for the advice about Schweser.

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Pretty punishing schedule to do 4hrs per day every day on top of your job - I don't envy you, but I definitely respect your determination! Go for it! I'm sitting L1 too, for basically the same reasons. I'm aiming for 250 hours total, so we're in the same ballpark in terms of study time.

For the experts posting here, is it wise to rely heavily on Schweser? My goal is to clear the study sections and related problems in schweser only with a month to spare for practice tests and q-bank fun. But I don't think I'll get much chance to check out the CFAI books as well - I've dipped in to them once or twice to clear up tricky issues but that's it.
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Cougar blue, actually I did speak to a couple of current students, and some people at a hedge fund, and they said it helps, and it's 2-fold.

1. It shows that as a career switcher, you have genuine interest in the field and have taken some proactive steps before coming to school.

2. Compared to other career switchers, you have an incremental advantage. They'd prefer someone who knows the lingo/markets than a complete greenhorn.

Thanks for the advice about Schweser.

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I never said it didn't help, only that it won't really be a large factor in getting you an interview/internship. It's not really a differentiator because anyone can put CFA L1 candidate on their resume. I've seen cases of people who have no CFA progress and completely unrelated experience, beat out CFAs who have stellar experience, and this is for top IM firms.

All this doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do, however--as I said previously I advise people to do it because it shows commitment to the field and of course, "all other things equal," having it is better than not. But to be honest with you, depending on the situation, you might be much better served to spend all that time investing for your own account, reading 10-Ks, networking with industry professionals, etc. Let me give an example: if I were interviewing (which I have) 2 guys, one had the CFA L1 completed, the other was a only CFA L1 Candidate but was able to talk more about his investing experience and about stocks, and had spoken to current and/or former employees of my shop (as a result of allocating those hours to different activities) I would take the second guy in a heartbeat. Anybody can sign up and pass a test, but if you really eat, drink and breath the stock market, you'll be able to show that in a much more effective way than talking about the CFA Exam L1. That said, try and do both!
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Cougar blue, actually I did speak to a couple of current students, and some people at a hedge fund, and they said it helps, and it's 2-fold.

1. It shows that as a career switcher, you have genuine interest in the field and have taken some proactive steps before coming to school.

2. Compared to other career switchers, you have an incremental advantage. They'd prefer someone who knows the lingo/markets than a complete greenhorn.

Thanks for the advice about Schweser.

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I never said it didn't help, only that it won't really be a large factor in getting you an interview/internship. It's not really a differentiator because anyone can put CFA L1 candidate on their resume. I've seen cases of people who have no CFA progress and completely unrelated experience, beat out CFAs who have stellar experience, and this is for top IM firms.

All this doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do, however--as I said previously I advise people to do it because it shows commitment to the field and of course, "all other things equal," having it is better than not. But to be honest with you, depending on the situation, you might be much better served to spend all that time investing for your own account, reading 10-Ks, networking with industry professionals, etc. Let me give an example: if I were interviewing (which I have) 2 guys, one had the CFA L1 completed, the other was a only CFA L1 Candidate but was able to talk more about his investing experience and about stocks, and had spoken to current and/or former employees of my shop (as a result of allocating those hours to different activities) I would take the second guy in a heartbeat. Anybody can sign up and pass a test, but if you really eat, drink and breath the stock market, you'll be able to show that in a much more effective way than talking about the CFA Exam L1. That said, try and do both!

Just to clarify, what's the difference between CFA L1 candidate and CFA L1?
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Pretty punishing schedule to do 4hrs per day every day on top of your job - I don't envy you, but I definitely respect your determination! Go for it! I'm sitting L1 too, for basically the same reasons. I'm aiming for 250 hours total, so we're in the same ballpark in terms of study time.

For the experts posting here, is it wise to rely heavily on Schweser? My goal is to clear the study sections and related problems in schweser only with a month to spare for practice tests and q-bank fun. But I don't think I'll get much chance to check out the CFAI books as well - I've dipped in to them once or twice to clear up tricky issues but that's it.

Almost everyone I know has relied exclusively on Schweser for all levels, but especially level I. Putting in that many hours, and having a month to cram, I think you should be more than fine.
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Just to clarify, what's the difference between CFA L1 candidate and CFA L1?

If you register for the exam, you can put CFA Level I Candidate on your resume (before you even take the test.) Everyone's resume either has whatever level of exams they've passed, or CFA Candidate of the next level exam they're going to take on their resume...or the Charter of course.
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Cougar blue, actually I did speak to a couple of current students, and some people at a hedge fund, and they said it helps, and it's 2-fold.

1. It shows that as a career switcher, you have genuine interest in the field and have taken some proactive steps before coming to school.

2. Compared to other career switchers, you have an incremental advantage. They'd prefer someone who knows the lingo/markets than a complete greenhorn.

Thanks for the advice about Schweser.

regards
WG

I never said it didn't help, only that it won't really be a large factor in getting you an interview/internship. It's not really a differentiator because anyone can put CFA L1 candidate on their resume. I've seen cases of people who have no CFA progress and completely unrelated experience, beat out CFAs who have stellar experience, and this is for top IM firms.

All this doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do, however--as I said previously I advise people to do it because it shows commitment to the field and of course, "all other things equal," having it is better than not. But to be honest with you, depending on the situation, you might be much better served to spend all that time investing for your own account, reading 10-Ks, networking with industry professionals, etc. Let me give an example: if I were interviewing (which I have) 2 guys, one had the CFA L1 completed, the other was a only CFA L1 Candidate but was able to talk more about his investing experience and about stocks, and had spoken to current and/or former employees of my shop (as a result of allocating those hours to different activities) I would take the second guy in a heartbeat. Anybody can sign up and pass a test, but if you really eat, drink and breath the stock market, you'll be able to show that in a much more effective way than talking about the CFA Exam L1. That said, try and do both!

Cougar, thanks a lot for the post. I've been managing an investment fund on the side, and yes I do kinda breath the markets, but not on a technical analysis basis. I follow trends, and do a lot of research, but not hardcore 10-Ks stuff. I need to get into that.

One thing I get stuck on is the networking part. I'm in a city with no financial industry (Austin, TX), and due to my background and occupation, there's not many people I know in IB or IM. How do you suggest I get about N/Wing ?
I tried seeking informational interviews from the only 2 firms available in Austin, but no response, inspite of mentioning my Candidate for Top-5 MBA sales pitch :).

Any thoughts/ideas on this?
Also, I've heard Schweser is not really completely sufficient for L1...I have the Schweser books for L1, they're a lot more concise but I'm worried if they're cutting corners in terms of subject material?

thanks again
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If you have a finance background, L1 isn't too hard. Just read through the Schweser notes a couple times and you'll be fine.
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Cougar blue, actually I did speak to a couple of current students, and some people at a hedge fund, and they said it helps, and it's 2-fold.

1. It shows that as a career switcher, you have genuine interest in the field and have taken some proactive steps before coming to school.

2. Compared to other career switchers, you have an incremental advantage. They'd prefer someone who knows the lingo/markets than a complete greenhorn.

Thanks for the advice about Schweser.

regards
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I never said it didn't help, only that it won't really be a large factor in getting you an interview/internship. It's not really a differentiator because anyone can put CFA L1 candidate on their resume. I've seen cases of people who have no CFA progress and completely unrelated experience, beat out CFAs who have stellar experience, and this is for top IM firms.

All this doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do, however--as I said previously I advise people to do it because it shows commitment to the field and of course, "all other things equal," having it is better than not. But to be honest with you, depending on the situation, you might be much better served to spend all that time investing for your own account, reading 10-Ks, networking with industry professionals, etc. Let me give an example: if I were interviewing (which I have) 2 guys, one had the CFA L1 completed, the other was a only CFA L1 Candidate but was able to talk more about his investing experience and about stocks, and had spoken to current and/or former employees of my shop (as a result of allocating those hours to different activities) I would take the second guy in a heartbeat. Anybody can sign up and pass a test, but if you really eat, drink and breath the stock market, you'll be able to show that in a much more effective way than talking about the CFA Exam L1. That said, try and do both!

Cougar, thanks a lot for the post. I've been managing an investment fund on the side, and yes I do kinda breath the markets, but not on a technical analysis basis. I follow trends, and do a lot of research, but not hardcore 10-Ks stuff. I need to get into that.

One thing I get stuck on is the networking part. I'm in a city with no financial industry (Austin, TX), and due to my background and occupation, there's not many people I know in IB or IM. How do you suggest I get about N/Wing ?
I tried seeking informational interviews from the only 2 firms available in Austin, but no response, inspite of mentioning my Candidate for Top-5 MBA sales pitch :).

Any thoughts/ideas on this?
Also, I've heard Schweser is not really completely sufficient for L1...I have the Schweser books for L1, they're a lot more concise but I'm worried if they're cutting corners in terms of subject material?

thanks again
WG

If you're not having success networking now, then wait until you're at school, and start making use of the alumni databases, or you could start once you have been admitted and have committed to the school--you might have access to the network.

Schweser alone is fine.
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