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Hi Bunuel I solved this problem a different way, but the result is different plz correct me why I am wrong !
Jack: x ( page/hr)
Tom: y ( page/hr)
we have : x + y = 25/3 (page/hr); (1/x - 1/y) = (2/20)
solving these two equations I have 2 values of x, which are x1 = 25 (p/hr) and x2 = 10/3 (p/hr)
so I cannot figure out the expected result !!!!
tks Bunuel

If x = 25, then y comes out to be negative, so this is not a valid solution.
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It takes Jack 2 more hours than Tom to type 20 pages. If working together, Jack and Tom can type 25 pages in 3 hours, how long will it take Jack to type 40 pages?

A. 5 hours
B. 6 hours
C. 8 hours
D. 10 hours
E. 12 hours

I received a PM about this problem.

Since Jack and Tom together can type 25 pages in 3 hours, their combined rate = \(\frac{work}{time}\) = \(\frac{25}{3}\) = 8\(\frac{1}{3}\) pages per hour.

We can PLUG IN THE ANSWERS, which represent Tom's time to type 40 pages.
When the correct answer choice is plugged in, the combined rate for Jack and Tom will be 8\(\frac{1}{3}\) pages per hour.

D: 10 hours
Here, Jack takes 10 hours to type 40 pages, implying that Jack's time to type 20 pages = 5 hours.
Thus, Jack's rate = \(\frac{work}{time}\) = \(\frac{20}{5}\) = 4 pages per hour.

Since Jack takes 2 more hours than Tom to type 20 pages, Tom's time to type 20 pages = 5-2 = 3 hours.
Thus, Tom's rate = \(\frac{work}{time}\) = \(\frac{20}{3}\) = 6\(\frac{2}{3}\) pages per hour.

Combined rate for Jack and Tom = 4 + 6\(\frac{2}{3}\) = 10\(\frac{2}{3}\) pages per hour.
Their combined rate is TOO FAST.
To decrease their combined rate, Jack must take MORE TIME to type 40 pages.

The correct answer is: .
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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Hello everyone! I have tried the question and I am not getting the right answer. Could you please help me find my error? It would help me a lot!
Let t be the time Tom takes.
Jack´s rate: 20/t+2
Tom´s rate: 20/t
Jack and Tom take 3 hours to type 25 page. Hence they take 12/5 hours to type 20 pages (25x = 3*20)
Now let the comple job be 20 pages: 1/(t+2) + 1/t = 1/ (12/5)
t+2+t = 12/5
2t = 12/5 -2
t = 5 hours

Hence, Tom takes 5 hours to type 20 pages. So jack takes 7hours (5+2)
40 pages would take Jack 14 hours (7*2)
As 14 was not among the answer choices I selected the highest number of hours...
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Hello everyone! I have tried the question and I am not getting the right answer. Could you please help me find my error? It would help me a lot!
Let t be the time Tom takes.
Jack´s rate: 20/t+2
Tom´s rate: 20/t
Jack and Tom take 3 hours to type 25 page. Hence they take 12/5 hours to type 20 pages (25x = 3*20)
Now let the comple job be 20 pages: 1/(t+2) + 1/t = 1/ (12/5)
t+2+t = 12/5
2t = 12/5 -2
t = 5 hours

Hence, Tom takes 5 hours to type 20 pages. So jack takes 7hours (5+2)
40 pages would take Jack 14 hours (7*2)
As 14 was not among the answer choices I selected the highest number of hours...
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The red part is not correct. Let me ask you: does from 1/2 + 1/4 = 3/4 it follow that 2 + 4 = 4/3?
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If we set the equation based on T being equal to Tom's time so Jack is T+2, the solution for T would be 120/9 (so not 6).

Why would it be wrong to set it as T and T+2 instead of T and T-2?

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Jack takes 2 hours longer than Tom to type 20 pages. When they work together, they can type 25 pages in 3 hours. How long would it take for Jack to type 40 pages by himself?

A. 5 hours
B. 6 hours
C. 8 hours
D. 10 hours
E. 12 hours


Let \(j\) hours represent the time needed for Jack to type 20 pages. For Tom, it would take \(j-2\) hours to type the same 20 pages. Therefore, Jack's rate is given by \(rate = \frac{job}{time}=\frac{20}{j}\) pages per hour, and Tom's rate is \(rate=\frac{job}{time}=\frac{20}{j-2}\) pages per hour.

Their combined rate is the sum of their individual rates, which is \(\frac{20}{j}+\frac{20}{j-2}\) pages per hour. This combined rate is equal to \(\frac{25}{3}\) pages per hour, so we have: \(\frac{20}{j}+\frac{20}{j-2}=\frac{25}{3}\). Multiplying through by 3, we get: \(\frac{60}{j}+\frac{60}{j-2}=25\). At this point, we can either substitute the values from the answer choices or solve the quadratic equation. Since we are asked to find the time needed for Jack to type 40 pages, the answer would be \(2j\) (because \(j\) is the time needed to type 20 pages).

Answer E works:

\(2j=12\);

\(j=6\);

Substituting \(j\) into the equation: \(\frac{60}{6}+\frac{60}{6-2}=10+15=25\).


Answer: E
If we set the equation based on T being equal to Tom's time so Jack is T+2, the solution for T would be 120/9 (so not 6).

Why would it be wrong to set it as T and T+2 instead of T and T-2?

Thanks

You could set up the equation with t for Tom’s time and t + 2 for Jack’s time:

60/t + 60/(t + 2) = 25

Solving this equation gives t = 4, which means j = t + 2 = 6.

This approach yields the same answer.
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Ah okay thanks for explaining that's helpful to know/understand.
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Jack takes 2 hours longer than Tom to type 20 pages. When they work together, they can type 25 pages in 3 hours. How long would it take for Jack to type 40 pages by himself?

A. 5 hours
B. 6 hours
C. 8 hours
D. 10 hours
E. 12 hours


Let \(j\) hours represent the time needed for Jack to type 20 pages. For Tom, it would take \(j-2\) hours to type the same 20 pages. Therefore, Jack's rate is given by \(rate = \frac{job}{time}=\frac{20}{j}\) pages per hour, and Tom's rate is \(rate=\frac{job}{time}=\frac{20}{j-2}\) pages per hour.

Their combined rate is the sum of their individual rates, which is \(\frac{20}{j}+\frac{20}{j-2}\) pages per hour. This combined rate is equal to \(\frac{25}{3}\) pages per hour, so we have: \(\frac{20}{j}+\frac{20}{j-2}=\frac{25}{3}\). Multiplying through by 3, we get: \(\frac{60}{j}+\frac{60}{j-2}=25\). At this point, we can either substitute the values from the answer choices or solve the quadratic equation. Since we are asked to find the time needed for Jack to type 40 pages, the answer would be \(2j\) (because \(j\) is the time needed to type 20 pages).

Answer E works:

\(2j=12\);

\(j=6\);

Substituting \(j\) into the equation: \(\frac{60}{6}+\frac{60}{6-2}=10+15=25\).


Answer: E
If we set the equation based on T being equal to Tom's time so Jack is T+2, the solution for T would be 120/9 (so not 6).

Why would it be wrong to set it as T and T+2 instead of T and T-2?

Thanks

You could set up the equation with t for Tom’s time and t + 2 for Jack’s time:

60/t + 60/(t + 2) = 25

Solving this equation gives t = 4, which means j = t + 2 = 6.

This approach yields the same answer.
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