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Master in Management MIM Germany? (WHU - Mannheim - HHL)

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New post 04 Oct 2017, 23:50
Hi There

i am looking also for Master in Management (MiM/MM) in location Germany
scrolling through forums, Financial Times, Ranks etc. resulted in 3 choices campus in Germany
since my brother is currently studying in Germany, Nurnberg i felt Germany is the right location personally comparing to other countries / EU / US / Asia

reason why i think i need to have Master degree, because Supply chain & Management interest me when i'm still studying in school. i also want to expand my opportunity in consulting firms, since i have many experience in handling business (though small) and international business (as i work in international shipping company)

as target school i would choose MANNHEIM , WHU , ESMT
any references for other school i should target?

can anyone review my profile below?

-Bachelor Degree in Industrial Engineering (i know not basically business/Management ; but i have good amount of Industrial/Warehouse/production/Supply Chain Management classes)
-GPA 3,1 of 4,00
-TOEFL 583 (PBT, need to take again for updates)
-GMAT (not yet taken, will guess around 600+)
-Work Experiences ;
- Forwarding Logistics around 3 months (Part Time)
- Shipping Line (Taiwanese company) / currently working 1 Year Experience in Marketing Import/Export position
- Co-Owner Restaurant (while study in College, around 1 to 1,5 years)

kindly inform if i need anything to improve my profile to get accepted in targeted school

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New post 05 Oct 2017, 08:47
Hi harsya071,

you might also have a look at HHL, which is similarly positioned as WHU and ESMT (and is also named in the title of this thread).

Please see below my comments on your profile

-Bachelor Degree in Industrial Engineering (i know not basically business/Management ; but i have good amount of Industrial/Warehouse/production/Supply Chain Management classes)
-> could be problematic, as most German Masters are consecutive, requiring at least partial business studies during an undergraduate degree. I think you should contact the universities whether the courses you did are sufficient in this. I could imagine that the private universities are more flexible in this than the public ones.
-GPA 3,1 of 4,00
-> I cannot judge this. For Mannheim I think there is a conversion calculation that they apply for foreign GPAs to result in German grades and then in points for the application process
-TOEFL 583 (PBT, need to take again for updates)
-> WHU requires at least 100 in iBT, PBT is not accepted; Mannheim does not require any English test (only GMAT)
-GMAT (not yet taken, will guess around 600+)
-> WHU and Mannheim have 600 GMAT as minimum
-Work Experiences ;
- Forwarding Logistics around 3 months (Part Time)
- Shipping Line (Taiwanese company) / currently working 1 Year Experience in Marketing Import/Export position
- Co-Owner Restaurant (while study in College, around 1 to 1,5 years)
-->sounds good. restaurant ownership could be interpreted as Entrepreneurship. See that Mannheim does not value internships highly (maximum of 6 points in application process for internships and work experience)

-> What you did not mention is an exchange semester or comparable international experience.
Note that Mannheim places substantial weight on an exchange semester with a pointage of 22 points for an exchange semester. Without an exchange semester it is very difficult to get into the Mannheim program.
Further note that only a part of the total Mannheim master places are available for English-only speakers, as the majority of the program is English-German. I think to remember that ca. 20% of the overall spots were reserved for the English-only program. As there are some courses only available in German, with the English-only program you have a limited choice for courses. However, this might be less severe for you as most German are Accounting/Taxation courses which seem to be of less interest to you either way.


To increase your chances
- get at least 600 in GMAT, higher pointage is advised
- get 100 in iBT for WHU, higher pointage is not of advantage (but doesn't harm either)
- have an exchange semester (for Mannheim) or refer to international experience (for WHU, international experience here is more broadly, could also be an internship abroad or similar)

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Hi harsya071,

you might also have a look at HHL, which is similarly positioned as WHU and ESMT (and is also named in the title of this thread).

Please see below my comments on your profile

-Bachelor Degree in Industrial Engineering (i know not basically business/Management ; but i have good amount of Industrial/Warehouse/production/Supply Chain Management classes)
-> could be problematic, as most German Masters are consecutive, requiring at least partial business studies during an undergraduate degree. I think you should contact the universities whether the courses you did are sufficient in this. I could imagine that the private universities are more flexible in this than the public ones.
-GPA 3,1 of 4,00
-> I cannot judge this. For Mannheim I think there is a conversion calculation that they apply for foreign GPAs to result in German grades and then in points for the application process
-TOEFL 583 (PBT, need to take again for updates)
-> WHU requires at least 100 in iBT, PBT is not accepted; Mannheim does not require any English test (only GMAT)
-GMAT (not yet taken, will guess around 600+)
-> WHU and Mannheim have 600 GMAT as minimum
-Work Experiences ;
- Forwarding Logistics around 3 months (Part Time)
- Shipping Line (Taiwanese company) / currently working 1 Year Experience in Marketing Import/Export position
- Co-Owner Restaurant (while study in College, around 1 to 1,5 years)
-->sounds good. restaurant ownership could be interpreted as Entrepreneurship. See that Mannheim does not value internships highly (maximum of 6 points in application process for internships and work experience)

-> What you did not mention is an exchange semester or comparable international experience.
Note that Mannheim places substantial weight on an exchange semester with a pointage of 22 points for an exchange semester. Without an exchange semester it is very difficult to get into the Mannheim program.
Further note that only a part of the total Mannheim master places are available for English-only speakers, as the majority of the program is English-German. I think to remember that ca. 20% of the overall spots were reserved for the English-only program. As there are some courses only available in German, with the English-only program you have a limited choice for courses. However, this might be less severe for you as most German are Accounting/Taxation courses which seem to be of less interest to you either way.


To increase your chances
- get at least 600 in GMAT, higher pointage is advised
- get 100 in iBT for WHU, higher pointage is not of advantage (but doesn't harm either)
- have an exchange semester (for Mannheim) or refer to international experience (for WHU, international experience here is more broadly, could also be an internship abroad or similar)



Thank You eduaudax!

really appreciate your response on my profile

i also want to ask you few things from your explanation;

--->BACHELOR Degree = i will get in touch with related university about courses accepted from my bachelor degree transcript.
also, do you have any recommendation for private University in Germany?
--->Exchange Semester / International Experiences = let's say i target Mannheim, therefore i need exchange semester in outside country, right? but since i already graduated does that mean i cannot go to Mannheim? LOL
for International Experience, i will be able to find that experience to work outside/abroad.
---> GERMAN-ENGLISH literature will not be a problem though, i will take course for Germany language and also study language there

so from your information above, it seems Mannheim have more difficult entry requirement right?
i am also looking right now for review on HHL, since this forum also mentioned HHL

thanks for your information, really helpful too

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harsya071 wrote:
Thank You eduaudax!

really appreciate your response on my profile

i also want to ask you few things from your explanation;

--->BACHELOR Degree = i will get in touch with related university about courses accepted from my bachelor degree transcript.
also, do you have any recommendation for private University in Germany?
--->Exchange Semester / International Experiences = let's say i target Mannheim, therefore i need exchange semester in outside country, right? but since i already graduated does that mean i cannot go to Mannheim? LOL
for International Experience, i will be able to find that experience to work outside/abroad.
---> GERMAN-ENGLISH literature will not be a problem though, i will take course for Germany language and also study language there

so from your information above, it seems Mannheim have more difficult entry requirement right?
i am also looking right now for review on HHL, since this forum also mentioned HHL

thanks for your information, really helpful too


Hi harsya071,

- WHU, HHL, ESMT are private; Mannheim is public.
- Let's say that without exchange semester it gets tremendously more difficult to get into Mannheim. I didn't do the calculation but I would expect that the difference between exchange semester or not is of the same magnitude as a difference of 60 points in GMAT. This would imply that in order to offset the disadvantage of having no exchange semester, you would require a 60 points higher GMAT result.
- I don't know your current German level, but I would highly doubt that one could get within 1 or 2 years from zero language ability to a language level, in which you could compete with natives in accounting/taxation courses. If you have already sound German skills, that may be different. Independent whether you study in an English-German or English-only program, German language will be beneficial in bonding with class mates and in increasing job prospects.

- I wouldn't say that Mannheim has the per-se more difficult entry requirements. However, without exchange semester it gets substantially more difficult.

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