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The female students in my class as a whole dress much more professionally than the guys. So I could see that holding true to applicants too.
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West Coast Schools = business casual at most (button down long sleeve shirt and slacks).

do NOT wear suits to class visits, or even a tie. You'll *really* stand out (and not in the best way, though not bad either). Even our company presentations are business casual (with tie) at most.

Kellogg = business casual (what I wore and I didn't feel out of place).
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West Coast Schools = business casual at most (button down long sleeve shirt and slacks).

do NOT wear suits to class visits, or even a tie. You'll *really* stand out (and not in the best way, though not bad either). Even our company presentations are business casual (with tie) at most.

Kellogg = business casual (what I wore and I didn't feel out of place).

I'm going to play style police again because this is one of my pet peeves :-D . We often refer to a dress shirt as a button up shirt. The problem is that many people often substitute the "down" for the "up" and call it a button down shirt. A button down shirt is a dress shirt that also has buttons on the collar so you can "button down" the collar. It was created by Brooks Brothers and is more informal and rarely worn with a suit.
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glad we have a fashion police on the board :wink:

BTW, I tuck my polo shirts in, hee hee :P
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At MIT today it ranged from jeans and T-shirts to suits. Most of us were business casual...slacks and a button down shirt.


Oh, and any type of shirt tucked into jeans is horrible! Unless you're a 48 year old with 3 kids and a minivan! :lol: :(

This must be a cultural thing, because I think that unless you have a trendy shirt you should always tuck it in :-D

Polos can be tucked in too btw, but I prefer them outside.

Will arrest me for that Gixxer? :lol:
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You freakin' European, Audio :)
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i think it's pretty clear that:

class visit = business casual
interview = suit

if you are doing both at the same visit, suit (since you'll be interviewing).

students (even at the executive program level) tend to dress pretty casually. there are always some students wearing shorts, t-shirt, sneaker, etc. we even had one guy who wears flip flops every day.

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i had my visit yesterday and went in khakis, a tucked in dress shirt, and brown loafers. i felt totally comfortable. i'll probably go with suit pants and shiny black shoes next time as that seemed to be the most common get up.

one guy in class was so overdressed i almost laughed out loud. you sure can see those aspiring finance guys a mile away can't you. everyone else was dressed casual but this guy had on the donald trump shirt (white collar on a blue shirt), silk tie, french cuffs with ciff links...the works. i think it's one thing to dress well, it's another to go so far over the top just for a class that you stand out in a bad way. there's something off-putting about that.
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At my Yale SOM visit today there were 2 (out of 12 of us) prospective students in jeans....one had a neon green polo untucked.....

I hate to be the style police but you shouldn't tuck a polo shirt in with jeans.

lol
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Echo RVD re: Wharton EMBA attire: do the suit if you've got your interview that day. If you sit in class (and you should), there will be other dorks like you in there all dressed up, and the students themselves were in your shoes not long ago.

I did the interview/visit in the same day. The original instructions said business casual, the final instructions they send the week of your interview said business or business casual. From my hotel room on the road I winced a bit.

I had planned for good business casual because I was coming in from a long week on the road. I hadn't brought a suit with me.

Of the 6 or 7 fellow interviewee/class visitors I meant, only myself and one other guy weren't in a suit. I fretted a bit in the waiting area, but whatever, I figured they weren't going to take me or not take me because I wasn't wearing a tie.

But don't listen to me, rock the suit.
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Echo RVD re: Wharton EMBA attire: do the suit if you've got your interview that day. If you sit in class (and you should), there will be other dorks like you in there all dressed up, and the students themselves were in your shoes not long ago.

I did the interview/visit in the same day. The original instructions said business casual, the final instructions they send the week of your interview said business or business casual. From my hotel room on the road I winced a bit.

I had planned for good business casual because I was coming in from a long week on the road. I hadn't brought a suit with me.

Of the 6 or 7 fellow interviewee/class visitors I meant, only myself and one other guy weren't in a suit. I fretted a bit in the waiting area, but whatever, I figured they weren't going to take me or not take me because I wasn't wearing a tie.

But don't listen to me, rock the suit.

My advice: Interview is suit; anything else is business casual. I always did my interview on the same day as the visit so I was always in a suit. At Wake, there was such a long time in between I rocked business casual in the morning then put on my tie and looked sharp for the interview.
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Isn't business casual basically a suit sans tie? So I don't see the big problem here. Put a tie in your bag, rock the sans tie look. When you need to go interview, pop into the restroom for five minutes and put on the tie. Seems like the suit sans tie look with a tie in the bag will cover all the bases. Am I missing something here?
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Isn't business casual basically a suit sans tie?

I think business casual means different things in different contexts/orgs. I work in big IT consulting, business casual here usually means slacks/khakis, button down, nice shoes. Business formal is suit and tie. There really isn't a suit-no-tie stop on the continuum. I think this is the more common interpretation of business casual.

At one of my customers' facilities, business casual means you don't have to wear a tie (this makes it a little harder to get too excited about casual Fridays).

A good sport coat is a nice bridge between the two imo.
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Isn't business casual basically a suit sans tie?

I think business casual means different things in different contexts/orgs. I work in big IT consulting, business casual here usually means slacks/khakis, button down, nice shoes. Business formal is suit and tie. There really isn't a suit-no-tie stop on the continuum. I think this is the more common interpretation of business casual.

At the Fuqua dinner they suggested "smart casual" which is basically a suit minus the tie (or even minus the jacket too).

I think its being used to replace business casual as BC can range from khakis and polos all the way up to a suit minus the tie, depending on who you ask.

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For my visits to Booth, Kellogg and Duke, I wore jeans and either a sweater or dress shirt. The other visiting students were a mix of jeans or khakis, but I'd say the majority wore jeans. I interviewed on a different day than my visit so a suit wasn't in the equation.
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Good thread, will go with my casual out-fit to school visit and buy a suit for the interview (if i ever get one :))
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Thread revival!

I have a class visit, student lunch, and admissions Q 'n A at HBS coming up in a couple weeks.

As far as attire goes, I'm leaning towards the nice jeans/leather shoes with sweater/wool coat combo. Since I've heard most HBS students dress casually for class (and I'll be hanging with them most of the day), I don't want to overdress with the typical "business casual" (i.e. slacks and button-up dress shirt). Will non-traditional business casual (i.e. jeans) be too casual?

I'm scheduled for an interview the following day and will be wearing a suit and tie (of course) but it'd be nice to keep it "classy casual" the day before so I can blend in a little more. Jeans have come a long way in the last couple years and a pair of nice jeans can look as nice than the old slacks/shirt combo...and I'm not talking about the Jerry Seinfeld "Bugle Boy jeans and blue blazer" combo, either.

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