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Hi,
Have just finished both MGMAT verbal and Powerscore verbal. Came across some strak contrasts that have confused me :
- MGMAT says posessive nouns are poor antecedants but a posessive noun can only take a posessive pronoun
- powerscore posessive nouns should NEVER be used as an antecedant
Also, powerscore mentions that it is not important to understand the difference between which and that. while MGMAT stresses on the difference in terms of essential and non essential modifiers.. Pl explain . Thanks
Some Questions am confused about are
Q1: Upon hearing of the chairman's illness, the committee motioned to postpone their next meeting until after he was released from the hospital
A Question as is
B to postpone its next meeting until after he was released
C to postpone their next meeting until after they were released
D to postpone its next meeting until after each was released
the Answer, is B. and the options too do not cover a better choice, but in the problem isn't chairman's a posessive noun? and since it is should the correct answer be reworded as to postpone its next meeting until after HIS release. His being a posessive pronoun
Q2. The distance between the 2 runners, which is over 50 meters cannot be made up with only 3 laps to go in the race
A -do-
B The distance between the 2 runners, who is over 50 meters
C The distance between the 2 runners, whom is over 50 meters
D The distance between the 2 runners, that is over 50 meters
E The distance between the 2 runners, whoever is 50 meters
The correct Answer is A. though I agree am a bit confused on why not that, given that which an only modify a noun immediately b4 it, in this case runners thus seeming incorrect. we should use that because we are modifying the clause "the distance .."
Have just finished both MGMAT verbal and Powerscore verbal. Came across some strak contrasts that have confused me :
- MGMAT says posessive nouns are poor antecedants but a posessive noun can only take a posessive pronoun
- powerscore posessive nouns should NEVER be used as an antecedant
Also, powerscore mentions that it is not important to understand the difference between which and that. while MGMAT stresses on the difference in terms of essential and non essential modifiers.. Pl explain . Thanks
Some Questions am confused about are
Q1: Upon hearing of the chairman's illness, the committee motioned to postpone their next meeting until after he was released from the hospital
A Question as is
B to postpone its next meeting until after he was released
C to postpone their next meeting until after they were released
D to postpone its next meeting until after each was released
the Answer, is B. and the options too do not cover a better choice, but in the problem isn't chairman's a posessive noun? and since it is should the correct answer be reworded as to postpone its next meeting until after HIS release. His being a posessive pronoun
Q2. The distance between the 2 runners, which is over 50 meters cannot be made up with only 3 laps to go in the race
A -do-
B The distance between the 2 runners, who is over 50 meters
C The distance between the 2 runners, whom is over 50 meters
D The distance between the 2 runners, that is over 50 meters
E The distance between the 2 runners, whoever is 50 meters
The correct Answer is A. though I agree am a bit confused on why not that, given that which an only modify a noun immediately b4 it, in this case runners thus seeming incorrect. we should use that because we are modifying the clause "the distance .."
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I addressed the first question in your other post--your concern is justified. On the issue of which vs. that, I'd agree that this issue doesn't come up much on the test. We cover it in our materials, but I don't think any of us would argue that it is essential to your GMAT success. 
In your example, "that" would be incorrect because the modifier is non-essential. Also, changing "which" to "that" doesn't eliminate the touch rule problem. "That" should ideally touch the noun it's modifying, too. Otherwise, we end up with something like this:
My painting of the dog that appeared in the museum was a success.
What appeared in the museum? The painting or the dog? Here, "which" would actually work better:
My painting of the dog, which appeared in the museum, was a success.
In this case, the "which" modifier must not modify "dog." We are adding a non-essential modifier to the entire subject--"My painting of the dog." Similarly, in your example, it is the entire subject--"The distance between the 2 runners"--that we are modifying. For more on this, take a look at Chapter 12 of our SC guide (in the Advanced section). We have a section titled "Modifiers: Exceptions to the Touch Rule." (pg. 234-235)
I hope this helps!
In your example, "that" would be incorrect because the modifier is non-essential. Also, changing "which" to "that" doesn't eliminate the touch rule problem. "That" should ideally touch the noun it's modifying, too. Otherwise, we end up with something like this:
My painting of the dog that appeared in the museum was a success.
What appeared in the museum? The painting or the dog? Here, "which" would actually work better:
My painting of the dog, which appeared in the museum, was a success.
In this case, the "which" modifier must not modify "dog." We are adding a non-essential modifier to the entire subject--"My painting of the dog." Similarly, in your example, it is the entire subject--"The distance between the 2 runners"--that we are modifying. For more on this, take a look at Chapter 12 of our SC guide (in the Advanced section). We have a section titled "Modifiers: Exceptions to the Touch Rule." (pg. 234-235)
I hope this helps!
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