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11 Apr 2021, 12:39
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Dear all,
Your advice/feedback is appreciated in my choice between Michigan Ross and Cornell Johnson ($).
Intro
Background in economics, worked financial roles, successfully transitioned to supply chain operations.
European/International, not been in the US before.
Goal
Continue with supply chain operations or consulting in that stream. Both are equally important.
Will pursue STEM courses in either case to be able to stay in the US at least short-term.
Ross
+ Strong network/reputation in US
+ Strong in operations & consulting with on-campus recruitment
+/- Also admitted to Tauber, but not sure if will go that route if consulting is more interesting
- No scholarship, not sure about international reputation and opportunities about returning to Europe
Cornell
+ Ivy League brand, higher ranked, good international reputation (feels like better prospects if not staying in US)
+ 20% scholarship is always a plus
- 30% of class go still into consulting, but limited on-campus recruiting and have to compete with other East Coast / Ivy schools, so not sure about international students' success
Appreciate your thoughts and comments.
Your advice/feedback is appreciated in my choice between Michigan Ross and Cornell Johnson ($).
Intro
Background in economics, worked financial roles, successfully transitioned to supply chain operations.
European/International, not been in the US before.
Goal
Continue with supply chain operations or consulting in that stream. Both are equally important.
Will pursue STEM courses in either case to be able to stay in the US at least short-term.
Ross
+ Strong network/reputation in US
+ Strong in operations & consulting with on-campus recruitment
+/- Also admitted to Tauber, but not sure if will go that route if consulting is more interesting
- No scholarship, not sure about international reputation and opportunities about returning to Europe
Cornell
+ Ivy League brand, higher ranked, good international reputation (feels like better prospects if not staying in US)
+ 20% scholarship is always a plus
- 30% of class go still into consulting, but limited on-campus recruiting and have to compete with other East Coast / Ivy schools, so not sure about international students' success
Appreciate your thoughts and comments.
11 Apr 2021, 22:02
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Congrats on your admits!
As an FYI for the US school ranking, Johnson usually ranks below Ross, hence the scholarship. However, if you feel cornell and johnson have a stronger ring to them in Europe (I am not a good judge here), then it is definitely a plus.
As to consulting, it IS HARD to break into it as an international. Not because you are an international but there are side barriers. Obviously some don't hire H1B candidates but even those who do, the competition is stiff. The one who have good success rate are those who come from consulting background. Being client ready is a big priority and with so many applicants, consulting firms can be picky. I feel your chances for consulting would be about equal with Ross and Johnson. I feel Ross is more leaning towards tech these days (in addition to consulting) and Johnson still has a leaning towards finance.
I a possible good path if you are looking to stay in SCM is Tech. Amazon, Walmart, and lots of other tech retailers have been hiring heavy for their SCM jobs. These tend to be less sexy than tech PM roles and it is easier to stand out and to break in too. Salaries are often equivalent to the PM roles... Slight advantage towards Ross but with the uncertainty, I think Johnson would not be a mistake by any means, esp with the scholarship bump.
As an FYI for the US school ranking, Johnson usually ranks below Ross, hence the scholarship. However, if you feel cornell and johnson have a stronger ring to them in Europe (I am not a good judge here), then it is definitely a plus.
As to consulting, it IS HARD to break into it as an international. Not because you are an international but there are side barriers. Obviously some don't hire H1B candidates but even those who do, the competition is stiff. The one who have good success rate are those who come from consulting background. Being client ready is a big priority and with so many applicants, consulting firms can be picky. I feel your chances for consulting would be about equal with Ross and Johnson. I feel Ross is more leaning towards tech these days (in addition to consulting) and Johnson still has a leaning towards finance.
I a possible good path if you are looking to stay in SCM is Tech. Amazon, Walmart, and lots of other tech retailers have been hiring heavy for their SCM jobs. These tend to be less sexy than tech PM roles and it is easier to stand out and to break in too. Salaries are often equivalent to the PM roles... Slight advantage towards Ross but with the uncertainty, I think Johnson would not be a mistake by any means, esp with the scholarship bump.
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11 Apr 2021, 23:47
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Ross would be the better bet here, considering your goals. The Cornell scholarship is good, but have you analyzed what the actual $ difference would be between the two programs over two years? I think that's a better financial comparison.
FYI - Cornell is NOT a higher-ranked program than Ross.
Not sure how the Ivy league prestige plays out in your geography, but in the US, most in MBA circles would put Ross a tier above Cornell.
Good luck!
FYI - Cornell is NOT a higher-ranked program than Ross.
Not sure how the Ivy league prestige plays out in your geography, but in the US, most in MBA circles would put Ross a tier above Cornell.Good luck!
