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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

(C) Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Originally posted by likar on 11 Jul 2006, 08:49.
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Hi Folks,
Meaning is very important in 600 +level SC questions

First in every SC question understand the meaning of the option A

In option A -clearly states Baikal ' fresh water is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined. here the meaning is logical

In option E- More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, modifies lake baikal but it should modify the baikal's fresh water.Option A does that clearly .Hence E wrong

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(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

C & D are not correct by construction
B has "lake has 300 rivers drain into it" ... not the intended meaning of the original. (Logical Predication??)
E. If we take the first part and the last part, the sentence doesn't make sense.

Therefore, A.
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Will go with A.

Best of the lot. C/D have ambiguous "it"
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New post 12 Jul 2006, 22:36
Hello Guys.... I am new to this forum and find it quite interesting.

In an attempt to solve the above SC, I narrowed down to choice B. Can somebody please explain why B cant be the right choice?

I didnt choose the unanimous A beacuse it seems ambigius.....if we ignore the second clause starting with which, the sentence doesnt structure well.

"More than 300 lakes......more than all..... "

Please let me know if I am missing anything.
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New post 12 Jul 2006, 22:38
[quote="likar"]More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

What is more than ?? So A is wrong..

(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

I think "it" usage is correct here..
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Hello Guys.... I am new to this forum and find it quite interesting.

In an attempt to solve the above SC, I narrowed down to choice B. Can somebody please explain why B cant be the right choice?

I didnt choose the unanimous A beacuse it seems ambigius.....if we ignore the second clause starting with which, the sentence doesnt structure well.

"More than 300 lakes......more than all..... "

Please let me know if I am missing anything.


"that is" in B is simply ungrammatical.

The choices here were A and E. "with" in E just sounds awkward.

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(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.



I find A to be wrong.
(A) holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

Shouldn't it say something like,
which is more than the water in all the North American Great Lakes combined.


Can someone provide more reasons why A is correct compared to E.
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(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.



I find A to be wrong.
(A) holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

Shouldn't it say something like,
which is more than the water in all the North American Great Lakes combined.


Can someone provide more reasons why A is correct compared to E.


Exactly I also thought E was the answer.

I read in MGMAT the following rulr:

the part of the sentence that contains "which" could be taken out and the statement would hold on its own and there would be no blow to the actual logic.

This statement goes for a toss if the which statement is removed.
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A/E are both right, but why is A preferable?

More than all the North American Great Lakes combined,
Siberia's Lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

correct

Throw in ", with more than 300 rivers draining into it, "

is correct as well.



Why is it A? E flows smoother than A as well.
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Can anyone please give a better response as to why E should be eliminated against A?
Experts, help please!
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I applied simple calculation to overcome doubts...May be expert can help me out......

I have gone for "E" lets see how..

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

Eliminate middle man and check.....

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal,.........,more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

Does not make sense....GMAT sentence should be hold meaning after defang middle man..


(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Did the similar trick by remove modifier and middle man and see the result

Siberia's Lake Baikal,... , holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.


May seek expert reply....

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(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Here Siberia's Lake Baikal seems to be a part of More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, and seems to modify it, which is not the case
Hence E is the wrong option.
Please correct me if i am wrong.

According to what i have deduced, the noun after the comma modifies/refers to the things just before the comma.
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(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Here Siberia's Lake Baikal seems to be a part of More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, and seems to modify it, which is not the case
Hence E is the wrong option.
Please correct me if i am wrong.

According to what i have deduced, the noun after the comma modifies/refers to the things just before the comma.


It is not true that the name after the comma refers to the preciding noun.Baikal is not part of the Great Lakes and the sentence doesn't say so.
The name after the comma is modified by the sentence before the comma, and here the first clause correctly modifies Lake Baikal.

Who is the subject of "more than ... combined"? Lake Baikal - this is correct.

The main errors in E are: the structure, not clear and quite confused; but most importantly its comparison.
More than the Great Lakes, Lake Baikal holds 20% of the world fresh water. Here the comparison is not correct, we are not comparing the water contained in L Baikal to the amount contained in the Great Lakes (as the correct answer does). Here the comparison doesn`t make sense.

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Can someone tell me what is the subject and main verb in the option A

all seem to be modifiers only
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Can someone tell me what is the subject and main verb in the option A

all seem to be modifiers only


Hi skamal7

This question is about modifier, not subject-verb agreement.

There are two parts.

(1) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal
-----subject------------------verb------------------------

(2) Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
"which holds......................." is modifier of Lake Baikal

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does this part ''more than all the North American Great Lakes combined'' modify 1st part of the sentence? Plz elaborate
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Please help me eliminate B as i am not able to do so and further please let me know if i am headed in the right direction,

A - Hold
B - Could not eliminate
C - Multiple usage of it which causes redundancy
D - It has no antecedent
E - Incorrectly modifies Siberia Lake
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Please help me eliminate B as i am not able to do so and further please let me know if i am headed in the right direction,

A - Hold
B - Could not eliminate
C - Multiple usage of it which causes redundancy
D - It has no antecedent
E - Incorrectly modifies Siberia Lake


The first "that": comma + "that" is incorrect - for essential modifier "that", comma is not to be used. Moroever use of essential modifier itself is wrong. Essential modifiers are used to define a noun (frequently to specify a subgroup). Here "Fresh water" is not defined by "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined."

The second "that": same reason as above - use of essential modifier is wrong. The rivers are not defined by the fact that they drain into the lake.
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Please help me eliminate B as i am not able to do so and further please let me know if i am headed in the right direction,

A - Hold
B - Could not eliminate
C - Multiple usage of it which causes redundancy
D - It has no antecedent
E - Incorrectly modifies Siberia Lake

Dear siddyj94,

I'm happy to respond. :-) I see that my brilliant colleague sayantanc2k answered your question, and I am going to add a little more.

Here's (B)
(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

Here's what I'll say. GMAT SC is NOT a test of grammar. On the GMAT SC, grammar and logic and rhetoric have to come together coherently to produce meaning. Many non-native speakers focus exclusively on grammar and so miss problems at other levels of analysis. The GMAT loves to construct wrong answers that are 100% grammatically correct but logically or rhetorically flaws, to trap the folks who pay attention to grammar only.

Arguably, (B) is grammatically correct, but it's a disaster in other ways.
1) The "that is" is a very weak, indirect, wordy way of presenting that information. We could eliminate those words entirely and get a better sentence:

(B2) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

That's 100% grammatically correct and considerably better than (B)--it has an air of elegance, whereas the original version of (B) felt clunky and tentative.

2) The "with" construction is not ideal. This construction is colloquially acceptable, but it doesn't withstand logical scrutiny. It really doesn't make sense to say that Lake Baikal is "with" water. Instead, we would say, that Lake Baikal is "holds" or "contains" water. If we replace "with" with the participle form, we get:

(B3) Holding 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

That's not bad at all. That could be a correct answer on the GMAT SC, but (A) is even better than this. Why?

Think about it. What's the main verb here? It's "has." The principle action is "has more than 300 rivers . . . "--not a riveting action. The slightly more active verb "hold" is in participle form, as a modifier, and the very active verb "drain" is hidden in a noun-modifying clause. A sentence feels most active when the most "active" action is also the main verb.

Now, think about the verbs in (A):
More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

This is grammatically and logically correct. Furthermore, the main verb "drain" is the most "active" action. This version has a level of punch, of forcefulness, that even (B3) lacks. Even the dependent clause, with the main verb "hold," feels more active than the main clause of (B3)! Choice (A) is a very direct and powerful way to communicate this information: it's an extremely well-written sentence.

You see, if you look at only grammar, you are seeing less than half the story of GMAT SC. You have to look at all levels at once.

Does all this make sense?
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