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My Official GMAT is on 24th November and I am shattered to see my MGMAT mock score of 580 (Q38;V32) today. What's disturbing is the fact that although I think I really have good quant skills (scored a Q49 in my last official fresh mba.com mock), I just don't seem to score highly in the quant section of MGMAT. In my last two MGAMT quant mocks I scored Q39 and Q38 (today). Also, I haven't been able to score even a 600 on MGMAT CATs so far. I am just baffled and annoyed. I think I have all the necessary knowledge, skills, and timing strategies in my pocket. I have been preparing for the GMAT for the last nine months, and I feel pretty comfortable about my Quant skills. What possibly could be the reason then for my low MGMAT scores, overall and in quant? I have heard MGMAT quant is harder than the real GMAT quant, but I don't know how I can interpret a Q38-39. I scored a Q42 on the quant section of GMATCLUB CAT, which is also considered to be pretty difficult.

I am regularly solving GMATPREP QUANT REVIEW questions, and in the last 100 questions, my overall accuracy is exactly 83% (93% on Easy, almost 80% on Medium, and 74% on HARD). I do sets of 20 questions, and regularly manage to do them in around 40 minutes - reflecting that my accuracy doesn't have a timing bias.

Why then I am not scoring highly on MGMAT is making me nuts. Please help me make sense of my situation. :please:

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My Official GMAT is on 24th November and I am shattered to see my MGMAT mock score of 580 (Q38;V32) today. What's disturbing is the fact that although I think I really have good quant skills (scored a Q49 in my last official fresh mba.com mock), I just don't seem to score highly in the quant section of MGMAT. In my last two MGAMT quant mocks I scored Q39 and Q38 (today). Also, I haven't been able to score even a 600 on MGMAT CATs so far. I am just baffled and annoyed. I think I have all the necessary knowledge, skills, and timing strategies in my pocket. I have been preparing for the GMAT for the last nine months, and I feel pretty comfortable about my Quant skills. What possibly could be the reason then for my low MGMAT scores, overall and in quant? I have heard MGMAT quant is harder than the real GMAT quant, but I don't know how I can interpret a Q38-39. I scored a Q42 on the quant section of GMATCLUB CAT, which is also considered to be pretty difficult.

I am regularly solving GMATPREP QUANT REVIEW questions, and in the last 100 questions, my overall accuracy is exactly 83% (93% on Easy, almost 80% on Medium, and 74% on HARD). I do sets of 20 questions, and regularly manage to do them in around 40 minutes - reflecting that my accuracy doesn't have a timing bias.

Why then I am not scoring highly on MGMAT is making me nuts. Please help me make sense of my situation. :please:

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1) MGMAT is harder than actual GMAT
2) MGMAT scoring algorithm gives a conservative estimate of score.

As long as you are getting decent scores in official mock exams, you don't need to worry. Official exam scores may overestimate score so take scores realistically. :)
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Official tests use real test questions and the real scoring algorithm. They're identical to the real test. Company tests use neither real questions nor the real algorithm. So there's really no reason to trust scores from any tests besides official ones, and I wouldn't worry at all about anomalous prep company scores. Many times, my students have had very different scores on prep co tests and on official tests, and it's the official test score that is always the much better predictor.

If you do want a more accurate assessment of your current level, I'd suggest taking another official test. A single test score is subject to variance -- a Q50-level test taker will get a Q49 sometimes by bad luck, and a Q47-level test taker will sometimes get a Q49 by good luck. If you took a second official test, and averaged your scores, that would give you a good idea of what to expect on test day. Good luck!
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Official tests use real test questions and the real scoring algorithm. They're identical to the real test. Company tests use neither real questions nor the real algorithm. So there's really no reason to trust scores from any tests besides official ones, and I wouldn't worry at all about anomalous prep company scores. Many times, my students have had very different scores on prep co tests and on official tests, and it's the official test score that is always the much better predictor.

If you do want a more accurate assessment of your current level, I'd suggest taking another official test. A single test score is subject to variance -- a Q50-level test taker will get a Q49 sometimes by bad luck, and a Q47-level test taker will sometimes get a Q49 by good luck. If you took a second official test, and averaged your scores, that would give you a good idea of what to expect on test day. Good luck!
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Sir, I really feel unfortunate that I have already used up all 6 of my official mocks. This company's mocks have really dented my confidence at a time when my real GMAT is just seven days ahead. I don't know how to regain that confidence. Would you suggest doing a repeat mock? In fact, while doing one of the official mocks, there was a five-minute long disruption in my internet connection, and subsequently I got a very low quant score (the section during which the outage occurred). That was GMATPREP mock 3. Sir, if you suggest, I can retake it because I think it was totally missed. I got a Q9 in it, so apparently it was wasted!
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I can't say for sure what will happen if you retake test 3, but there's a decent chance it will be useful, so it's worth a try. If you get ten questions into the test, and you recognize more than one or two of them, it would probably make sense to stop though. An alternative would be to retake one of the free tests. They draw from a bigger question bank than the paid tests, so you're less likely to see repeat questions, and if you took those a while ago, you might not remember repeats well anyway. The only way to find out is to try, but again, I'd abandon a test if you knew too many questions for the test to be useful.

It's fine to take a test when a couple of questions are familiar - just try to pretend you hadn't seen them before, so let a realistic amount of time elapse, and get the question right if you think you'd get it right if you didn't know the question. If you think you wouldn't ordinarily get the question right, use a random number generator to guess (don't intentionally pick a wrong answer, because then you're penalizing yourself more than you should). You can use the last digit of the minutes on the clock to make a random guess (1 and 6 are A, 2 and 7 are B, etc).
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I can't say for sure what will happen if you retake test 3, but there's a decent chance it will be useful, so it's worth a try. If you get ten questions into the test, and you recognize more than one or two of them, it would probably make sense to stop though. An alternative would be to retake one of the free tests. They draw from a bigger question bank than the paid tests, so you're less likely to see repeat questions, and if you took those a while ago, you might not remember repeats well anyway. The only way to find out is to try, but again, I'd abandon a test if you knew too many questions for the test to be useful.

It's fine to take a test when a couple of questions are familiar - just try to pretend you hadn't seen them before, so let a realistic amount of time elapse, and get the question right if you think you'd get it right if you didn't know the question. If you think you wouldn't ordinarily get the question right, use a random number generator to guess (don't intentionally pick a wrong answer, because then you're penalizing yourself more than you should). You can use the last digit of the minutes on the clock to make a random guess (1 and 6 are A, 2 and 7 are B, etc).
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Thanks for such an elaborate answer, sir. I'll do exactly as you said.
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I can't say for sure what will happen if you retake test 3, but there's a decent chance it will be useful, so it's worth a try. If you get ten questions into the test, and you recognize more than one or two of them, it would probably make sense to stop though. An alternative would be to retake one of the free tests. They draw from a bigger question bank than the paid tests, so you're less likely to see repeat questions, and if you took those a while ago, you might not remember repeats well anyway. The only way to find out is to try, but again, I'd abandon a test if you knew too many questions for the test to be useful.

It's fine to take a test when a couple of questions are familiar - just try to pretend you hadn't seen them before, so let a realistic amount of time elapse, and get the question right if you think you'd get it right if you didn't know the question. If you think you wouldn't ordinarily get the question right, use a random number generator to guess (don't intentionally pick a wrong answer, because then you're penalizing yourself more than you should). You can use the last digit of the minutes on the clock to make a random guess (1 and 6 are A, 2 and 7 are B, etc).
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Sir, just one more thing. Would you suggest me to delay my test date? It's 24th November. I felt confident until the mock I took yesterday. They say you should feel good about your prep before diving in. I haven't lost my confidence completely but I don't feel as good as I did before taking the yesterday's mock.
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I know you've been at this for a while now, so honestly, I think you need to trust the Q49 you scored on your last official practice exam, and not worry about anything else, OK? Regarding taking another official exam, have you already repeated the two free GMAC practice exams?
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I know you've been at this for a while now, so honestly, I think you need to trust the Q49 you scored on your last official practice exam, and not worry about anything else, OK? Regarding taking another official exam, have you already repeated the two free GMAC practice exams?
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You've been one of the most supportive experts on GMATCLUB for me, and I owe you a great deal. Thank you for your words. I'm trying not to think too much about MGMAT mocks. In fact, if I may ask you, sir, I have one MGMAT mock still left with me. Do you think I should take it? As far as official ones are concerned, sir, I have repeated the two free ones already. I have the other ones (3,4,5,6) unrepeated though. What do you say?
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I can't say for sure what will happen if you retake test 3, but there's a decent chance it will be useful, so it's worth a try. If you get ten questions into the test, and you recognize more than one or two of them, it would probably make sense to stop though. An alternative would be to retake one of the free tests. They draw from a bigger question bank than the paid tests, so you're less likely to see repeat questions, and if you took those a while ago, you might not remember repeats well anyway. The only way to find out is to try, but again, I'd abandon a test if you knew too many questions for the test to be useful.

It's fine to take a test when a couple of questions are familiar - just try to pretend you hadn't seen them before, so let a realistic amount of time elapse, and get the question right if you think you'd get it right if you didn't know the question. If you think you wouldn't ordinarily get the question right, use a random number generator to guess (don't intentionally pick a wrong answer, because then you're penalizing yourself more than you should). You can use the last digit of the minutes on the clock to make a random guess (1 and 6 are A, 2 and 7 are B, etc).

Sir, just one more thing. Would you suggest me to delay my test date? It's 24th November. I felt confident until the mock I took yesterday. They say you should feel good about your prep before diving in. I haven't lost my confidence completely but I don't feel as good as I did before taking the yesterday's mock.
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Take the test as suggested by Ian first and then decide whether you need to reschedule. You may not need to.
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Hi Louis14,

I know you've been at this for a while now, so honestly, I think you need to trust the Q49 you scored on your last official practice exam, and not worry about anything else, OK? Regarding taking another official exam, have you already repeated the two free GMAC practice exams?

You've been one of the most supportive experts on GMATCLUB for me, and I owe you a great deal. Thank you for your words. I'm trying not to think too much about MGMAT mocks. In fact, if I may ask you, sir, I have one MGMAT mock still left with me. Do you think I should take it? As far as official ones are concerned, sir, I have repeated the two free ones already. I have the other ones (3,4,5,6) unrepeated though. What do you say?
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At this point, I think you don't have to take any more mocks. I think you are good to go.