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No, I'm nothing related to IvyGmat.

Simply I like something that is motivated.

I can post here a plenty of links and sources useful to study in a more suitable way ;)
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IVY GMAT is pretty slimy from what I have heard about them.
And 730 is NO WAY a bad score. Its an amazing score IMO.
But the guy has made good collection of questions no doubt.
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IVY GMAT is pretty slimy from what I have heard about them.
And 730 is NO WAY a bad score. Its an amazing score IMO.
But the guy has made good collection of questions no doubt.
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Of course Mod. saying if you not aim to at least 760 do not come here to Ivy gmat is not kindly and correct I agree but "to strain" for the best score it's ok, the moral is to think big.

Over 700 is a big score, anyway I'll put the sign in lime for that score :)
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IVY GMAT is pretty slimy from what I have heard about them.
And 730 is NO WAY a bad score. Its an amazing score IMO.
But the guy has made good collection of questions no doubt.


Of course Mod. saying if you not aim to at least 760 do not come here to Ivy gmat is not kindly and correct I agree but "to strain" for the best score it's ok, the moral is to think big.

Over 700 is a big score, anyway I'll put the sign in lime for that score :)
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Carcass, yeah its a valid point.
But I think being completely obsessed with the test is also very counter productive.
For example this guy makes thousands of question in his sets. Point to note is NONE of those questions are original. Now what he does it, he makes sets by accumulating questions from Manhattan CATs. Indian guys love to slog and no wonder his students can finish the entire set in 2-3 weeks.
What will that do?
That will just elevate your MGMAT CAT score.
But they won't contribute to your comprehension and reasoning skills unless you thoroughly review each and every single question and take something out of it.
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IVY GMAT is pretty slimy from what I have heard about them.
And 730 is NO WAY a bad score. Its an amazing score IMO.
But the guy has made good collection of questions no doubt.


Of course Mod. saying if you not aim to at least 760 do not come here to Ivy gmat is not kindly and correct I agree but "to strain" for the best score it's ok, the moral is to think big.

Over 700 is a big score, anyway I'll put the sign in lime for that score :)

Carcass, yeah its a valid point.
But I think being completely obsessed with the test is also very counter productive.
For example this guy makes thousands of question in his sets. Point to note is NONE of those questions are original. Now what he does it, he makes sets by accumulating questions from Manhattan CATs. Indian guys love to slog and no wonder his students can finish the entire set in 2-3 weeks.
What will that do?
That will just elevate your MGMAT CAT score.
But they won't contribute to your comprehension and reasoning skills unless you thoroughly review each and every single question and take something out of it.
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I agree totally.

Infact I prefer quality over quantity. if I pick a question wrong I always figure out why is wrong and take notes. if I pick a question correct I try to figure out HOW can do the same in a more efficiently way, looking at the question always from an odd angle. :)
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Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape
of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became the first woman and
was also the first Swedish writer to win the Nobel Prize for Literature.

A. Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape
of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became the first woman and
was also the first Swedish writer to win

B. She turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about the peasant life and
landscape of northern Sweden, and novelist Selma Lagerlöf in 1909 became the first woman as
well as the first Swedish writer that won

C. Selma Lagerlöf was a novelist who turned away from literary realism to write romantic stories
about the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, and in 1909 she became the first
woman in addition to the first Swedish writer winning

D. A novelist who turned away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life
and landscape of northern Sweden, Selma Lagerlöf became in 1909 the first woman and also the
first Swedish writer to win

E. As a novelist, Selma Lagerlöf turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about
the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, in 1909 becoming the first woman and also
the first Swedish writer that won
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what are the issues with B?
C seemed a hell lot better than B but still want to know all the issues with B? Also on GMAT can only "who" refer to a person?
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Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape
of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became the first woman and
was also the first Swedish writer to win the Nobel Prize for Literature.

A. Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape
of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became the first woman and
was also the first Swedish writer to win

B. She turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about the peasant life and
landscape of northern Sweden, and novelist Selma Lagerlöf in 1909 became the first woman as
well as the first Swedish writer that won

C. Selma Lagerlöf was a novelist who turned away from literary realism to write romantic stories
about the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, and in 1909 she became the first
woman in addition to the first Swedish writer winning

D. A novelist who turned away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life
and landscape of northern Sweden, Selma Lagerlöf became in 1909 the first woman and also the
first Swedish writer to win

E. As a novelist, Selma Lagerlöf turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about
the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, in 1909 becoming the first woman and also
the first Swedish writer that won
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IMO E
As a novelist, Selma Lagerlöf turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about
the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, in 1909 becoming the first woman and also
the first Swedish writer that won

As a novelist modifies Selma Lagerlof
turned || with wrote
"becoming the first woman and also the first Swedish writer that won" modifies Selma Lagerlof

Hope so i'm correct...
Pls correct me if im wrong
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Hii Shan.
After a long time huh?
In E, there are several issues. They are:
i) As a novelist--Though I don't the proper reason, it doesn't sounds fine.
ii) Preposition is preceded by a comma.
iii) "and also" is incorrect.
iv) the prepositional phrase has no subject
v) uses "that" for a person. IMO that is incorrect on GMAT.
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Hii Shan.
After a long time huh?
In E, there are several issues. They are:
i) As a novelist--Though I don't the proper reason, it doesn't sounds fine.
ii) Preposition is preceded by a comma.
iii) "and also" is incorrect.
iv) the prepositional phrase has no subject
v) uses "that" for a person. IMO that is incorrect on GMAT.
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IMO is a grammar rule that my cousin, at elementary school in DC, knows

D straight.

I notice the tendence by Gmat to do such construction in all underlined sentences: a sort of introduction and then the subject does something.......is the most concise and clear construction.
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Hii Carcass.
Does "as a novelist" in E changes the meaning?
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Hii Carcass.
Does "as a novelist" in E changes the meaning?
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Yup. you are right, completely

In D the sense is to create a precise context in which we describe who is her and what did or achive. Notice A novelist

As a novelist instead describes what for instance is a movement where Selma serves as an example.

Look at this

Selma Lagerlöf turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about
the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, plays the role of an incidental phrase that is totally indipendent


As a novelist, ........................................................................... ,in 1909 becoming the first woman and alsothe first Swedish writer that won.....

Doesn't have much sense..........

Hope what I said, it is useful ;)
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And what about the last prepositional phrase, "in 1909 becoming bla bla bla". Why do you feel that it is incorrect, I am assuming that you feel so.
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And what about the last prepositional phrase, "in 1909 becoming bla bla bla". Why do you feel that it is incorrect, I am assuming that you feel so.
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"becoming the first woman and also the first Swedish writer that won" modifies Selma Lagerlof
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How much modifiers should we have ??

In becoming ete etc.......in my logic point out to novelist but at the same time should refers to selma and at the same time novelist modifies selma....... :shock:

No way, we would lose the focus and the meaning of the sentence.

I would like to know from souvik if we can have more than a modifiers that modifie at the same time the same thing, especially in a long and complex sentence.

I think the answer is no. let me know what about.

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Is it really a modifier?
I thought a prepositional phrase doesn't stands a chance when preceded by a comma.

Anyways, Here is the next one:

For the farmer who takes care to keep them cool, providing them with high-energy feed, and
milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing an average of 2,275 gallons of milk each
per year.

A. providing them with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing

B. providing them with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, the Holstein cow produces

C. provided with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing

D. provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, the Holstein cow produces

E. provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, Holstein cows will produce
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Is it really a modifier?
I thought a prepositional phrase doesn't stands a chance when preceded by a comma.

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This is what I pointed out in the end:is a modifier, no , yes........it was implicit in my question
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For the farmer who takes care to keep them cool, providing them with high-energy feed, and
milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing an average of 2,275 gallons of milk each
per year.

A. providing them with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing

B. providing them with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, the Holstein cow produces

C. provided with high-energy feed, and milking them regularly, Holstein cows are producing

D. provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, the Holstein cow produces

E. provided with high-energy feed, and milked regularly, Holstein cows will produce
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E

Them agree with cows and will produce is the only verbe tense that has sense .
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Hii Shan.
After a long time huh?
In E, there are several issues. They are:
i) As a novelist--Though I don't the proper reason, it doesn't sounds fine.
ii) Preposition is preceded by a comma.
iii) "and also" is incorrect.
iv) the prepositional phrase has no subject
v) uses "that" for a person. IMO that is incorrect on GMAT.
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hmm yup Marcab...
It has been long since i posted :lol:

ya as u said E has so many issues...
When i comes to long sentence i'm lost in between always...

hmm ll give a try again....
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Hii Shan.
After a long time huh?
In E, there are several issues. They are:
i) As a novelist--Though I don't the proper reason, it doesn't sounds fine.
ii) Preposition is preceded by a comma.
iii) "and also" is incorrect.
iv) the prepositional phrase has no subject
v) uses "that" for a person. IMO that is incorrect on GMAT.
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hmm yup Marcab...
It has been long since i posted :lol:

ya as u said E has so many issues...

I just wanna confirm is comma followed by preposition is always wrong ?

If so i can immediately wipe of A and E right?
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And what about the last prepositional phrase, "in 1909 becoming bla bla bla". Why do you feel that it is incorrect, I am assuming that you feel so.

a quote from a previous comment

Quote:
As a novelist modifies Selma Lagerlof
turned || with wrote
"becoming the first woman and also the first Swedish writer that won" modifies Selma Lagerlof

How much modifiers should we have ??

In becoming ete etc.......in my logic point out to novelist but at the same time should refers to selma and at the same time novelist modifies selma....... :shock:

No way, we would lose the focus and the meaning of the sentence.

I would like to know from souvik if we can have more than a modifiers that modifie at the same time the same thing, especially in a long and complex sentence.

I think the answer is no. let me know what about.

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Hey Carcass,
I am not exactly sure of what you mean.
But the above question is completely based on clarity/meaning.
And from what I have seen, back to back modifiers are ALWAYS wrong.
And the sentence that you mentioned, "and" makes the two things very independent and does not make much sense
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Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape
of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became the first woman and
was also the first Swedish writer to win the Nobel Prize for Literature.

A. Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life and landscape
of northern Sweden, in 1909 Selma Lagerlöf was the novelist who became the first woman and
was also the first Swedish writer to win

B. She turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about the peasant life and
landscape of northern Sweden, and novelist Selma Lagerlöf in 1909 became the first woman as
well as the first Swedish writer that won

C. Selma Lagerlöf was a novelist who turned away from literary realism to write romantic stories
about the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, and in 1909 she became the first
woman in addition to the first Swedish writer winning

D. A novelist who turned away from literary realism to write romantic stories about the peasant life
and landscape of northern Sweden, Selma Lagerlöf became in 1909 the first woman and also the
first Swedish writer to win

E. As a novelist, Selma Lagerlöf turned away from literary realism and wrote romantic stories about
the peasant life and landscape of northern Sweden, in 1909 becoming the first woman and also
the first Swedish writer that won
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B is wrong in that the sentence is INCREDIBLY awkward.
It kind of is similar to : He is smart, and my brother is the topper of his class. "and" makes is independent and it sounds like my brother might not just be the antecedent of "he". VERY weird sentence.
C: "in addition" ruins thins
E is also super awful. Marcab pointed out all the anomalies with E. Though I do think prepositional phrases appearing after comma is not that awkward for example,
Moscow, in Germany, houses Siemens headquaters.
But it is awkward in almost every single way perceivable.
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