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Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.


(A) so many changes at once as they had in
The non-underlined part uses the past perfect tense “had confronted”. The second event must hence be in the simple past tense- ‘confronted” and not “had (confronted) in the Tax Reform Act of 1986..
As many as is the correct idiom and not “so many as”. Eliminate

(B) at once as many changes as
“Changes” is compared to the Tax Reform Act. Eliminate.

(C) at once as many changes that there were with
“ As many as” is the correct idiom and not “as many that”

(D) as many changes at once as they confronted in
Correct.

(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in
Changes the meaning of the sentence. “So many that” is incorrect. Eliminate.


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correct idiom is
As many as

So, C is out.

So X as Y is used to express quality rather than quantity. So, A is out.
B breaks //lism. Compares "many changes with Tax Reform".

I prefer D over E as E says "many changes" confronted the taxpayers.
So, IMO D
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Great work on this one, daagh - D it is! I like the way you broke that down:

1) Verb Tense

We clearly have a sequence of events: They had never before confronted comes before "they confronted" in 1986, so we can (and should) use past-perfect for the first portion but cannot use it for the second.

2) Comparisons

"As many as" is the correct structure

3) Let me also add "logical meaning".

Choice A actually could use the word "had" to mean "possessed" in the past-tense (and not "had confronted" in the past-perfect), but is that a logical meaning? Did the taxpayers "possess" or "own" those changes? No - they encountered, or "confronted" them, but they didn't "have" them. So A is, again, eliminated.
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Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

A. so many changes at once as they had in

B. at once as many changes as

C. at once as many changes that there were with

D. as many changes at once as they confronted in

E. so many changes at once that confronted them

This SC is already posted in this forum,but i have very specific doubt. In option E we have idiom "so...that". How to know that usage is wrong in this context.
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Let us look at it from a different angle; In re: to the comparison: We are trying to compare some changes that occurred earlier with the changes that occurred in the Tax Reform Act of 1986. A comparison that is started with either ‘so’ or ‘as’ should be completed with another ‘as’, per the tenets of comparison; the idiom is as X as Y or so X as Y. It may be seen E is missing the second comparator ‘as’.
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WRT (A) vs (D), I'm sure that the problem is not related to "so ... as" vs "as ... as" idioms.

what is wrong in (A)? Is "had" not right in this case? Could someone please elaborate?
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WRT (A) vs (D), I'm sure that the problem is not related to "so ... as" vs "as ... as" idioms.

what is wrong in (A)? Is "had" not right in this case? Could someone please elaborate?

Hi manhasnoname, idiomatic usage is definitely an issue with A.

In addition, A incorrectly uses past perfect (had confronted) when it should be using simple past (confronted).

In general when there are two events that happened in the past, the event that happened later (in this case taxpayers confronting many changes in the Tax Reform Act of 1986) should be expressed in simple past.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Past perfect tense, its application and examples in significant detail. If someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.


(A) so many changes at once as they had in X

The correct idiom here is 'as...as' not 'so...as'. The other issue is 'had in' is problematic...The taxpayers never before had confront so many changes at once as they had IN THE TAX (in essence you are saying they never confronted so many changes at once as they had in a preposition)

(B) at once as many changes as X

The Tax Reform Act is not a bunch of changes

(C) at once as many changes that there were with X

This one fudges the idiom altogether

(D) as many changes at once as they confronted in CORRECT

(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in X

-redundancy problem
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Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.


(A) so many changes at once as they had in

(B) at once as many changes as

(C) at once as many changes that there were with

(D) as many changes at once as they confronted in

(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in


Hi AjiteshArun ,

Can Choices B and C be rejected for wrong placement of at once ?

In B and C - "confronted at once" is not what author wants to convey. Rather , confronted changes at once is the intention !!

Also, Is there any error other than so that error in Choice E ? How can we reject Choice E if one was confused about the usage of so that.
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Hi AjiteshArun ,

Can Choices B and C be rejected for wrong placement of at once ?

In B and C - "confronted at once" is not what author wants to convey. Rather , confronted changes at once is the intention !!

Also, Is there any error other than so that error in Choice E ? How can we reject Choice E if one was confused about the usage of so that.
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Hi PriyamRathor,

I agree that at once isn't where we'd really want it to be in those options, but remember that the main ("main" ~ "more reliable") reason to take option B out is the meaning call:

"As many changes as the Tax Reform Act of 1986" seems to say that the Tax Reform Act of 1986 itself was a change, whereas the intended meaning is that there are changes in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
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Can anyone pls explain why B is wrong ?


Hey omsoni134

Thank you for the interesting question. Happy to help!

First, let's take a closer look at choice A, the original sentence:

    A: Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
Meaning Analysis:
    1. Taxpayers confronted a lot of changes at once in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
    2. Prior to the Tax Reform Act of 1986, Taxpayers had never confronted those many changes at once.


Answer Choice Analysis:
    1. The sentence clearly presents us with a comparison of Taxpayers in two different time periods in the past. This is indicated by the word "before".
    2. Now, the first clause uses the past perfect tense "had confronted". This indicates that the second clause (comparative clause) must be in the simple past tense.
    3. Choice A uses the Past Perfect for the second clause as well - ...as they had (confronted) in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
    4. This means both clauses are in the past perfect with no clause in the simple past to fulfil the role of the frame of reference.
    5. Hence, A is incorrect. And, we're looking for a choice that has the simple past in the second clause.


Now, let's take a closer look at B.

    B: Never before had taxpayers confronted at once as many changes as in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

Analysis:
    1. This choice uses Ellipsis. If we bring back the omitted parts we get:

      Never before had taxpayers confronted at once as many changes as taxpayers had confronted (changes) in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

    According to the rule of Ellipsis, only identical words/phrases are omitted. This is why the omitted verb in the second clause is also in the past perfect tense, just like the first clause. This is why choice B is incorrect.


Now, let's look at choice D, the correct answer:

    D: Never before had taxpayers confronted as many changes at once as they confronted in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

Notice how choice D uses the simple past tense in the second clause. This simple past action serves as reference to the past perfect action in the first clause.


I hope this improves your understanding of the Past Perfect Tense and Ellipsis.


Happy Learning!

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