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Based on my conversation with the university I am focusing on, they said I have very good background and experience (10 years). I don’t need high score for admission and it’s more of a paperwork thing. I am focusing on 650 GMAT Focus score which might allow me to get some level of scholarship.

I am assuming we are talking about Manhattan 655+ GMAT SCORE guarantee course being the gold standard ?
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655 then? (The gmat focus edition which is the only version of the test available since February 2024, two years ago always ends on the five... it isn’t impossible for you to get a 650. You can get a 645 or you can get a 655.)

This matters because 655 is about 90th percentile on the gym mat so it’s not really a low score. The equivalent of a 650 from two years ago, would be 595 which is a 65th percentile or something like that, and would be a more mainstream score.

It’s important to distinguish and use the correct terminology because right now we’re speaking apples and oranges
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ohh, I see where the problem is. Thanks for correcting me. yes, 645 FOCUS Score then.
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No worries, it’s not a problem it’s just a different measuring stick.

I was referring to Manhattan course in general, any of their online or in person classes (live ones) would give you everything you need to prepare but you also need to be realistic about learning and if you are 10 years out of school, you probably don’t remember how to multiply powers or find roots of a quadratic equation. So you’ll have to do some ketchup and learning potentially in addition toward the class is teaching. This is just pointing to some potential extra effort that may be needed on your part.

Also the fact that you are so busy with work is going to have a bit of a impact on your performance because your ability to do homework and retain is going to be a week unless you study first thing in the morning.

Finally, we’ve done some research from a while ago and the in person classes or online live classes where you have to show up in indeed provide and produce the best results and the average improvement was about 120 or 140 points or something like that. That’s average and again I see number of reasons that average may not be the number you can safely use so if you are less than 100 points away, this should work...

And sorry for any typos, I’m on the run and doing my best 😇
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I do appreciate the information. Regardless of the constraints, I assume the "best bet" for me still sounds like buying a Manhattan prep course with some extra work as compared to opt for full self study. Would this be fair assumption or am I misreading ?
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On the other hand, if you take a diagnostic test and you are 200 points away, that means you have a journey ahead of you and it would not be time or money well spent unless you can commit more energy and more effort into refreshing high school math and spending time to solve questions... so once you take a practice test from mba.com to get a sense of where you’re standing or maybe you’ve already done that

Just like nobody has been fired for buying IBM, I don’t think there’s a wrong choice with the course. It is a very solid option and the best option in your case. The only downside is the cost but it seems that’s not the driver here.

Meaning You can’t go wrong with the Manhattan live course....
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Perfect! Thank you BB. Appreciate the input. You have a wonderful day.
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But I think it would be important for you to take the diagnostic test and have clear expectations of what you can count on.

Also, you will be a student in the class of six or 10 people and the expectation is that if you have questions you’ll ask them the expectations that not that the teacher will be quizzing each one of you and that they’ll be doing private tutoring for you. It is a class and so it’s your responsibility to raise your hand to participate take advantage of it and take responsibility for your learning and if you don’t understand then you need to call it out as soon as possible to your instructor to maybe get extra help or to get some extra resources or something like that. Some people expect because of the price tag to be a private tutoring experience but it is a class so just need to have the right expectations

At the end of the day, they don’t teach you any secretive methods that nobody knows. They have good instructors who do their job to be good and they use good materials which you can also buy on Amazon and finally they try to give you a lot of opportunities to learn and call out the big items and you’ll see people who do great and people who will take the same class and struggle and unfortunately it’s still all dependent on the personal effort, no matter how the instructor tries.
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yeah its not a magical bullet, but definitely provides opportunity to sit down with some external help and focus energy towards study
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Yes and the best part, you don’t need to search for anything or get anything else, they’ll get you all the books and resources you need so you don’t need to worry that you don’t learn something or you will learn too much or you’re wasting your time just ask questions and be proactive and ask yourself if you’re learning or if there’s something else you can do to to improve your learning
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Guys got a small question here... I scored 685 96th percentile on the Gmat Focus, Q90 V86 DI76... is there any added value for top 10 programs in taking the exam again and try scoring higher? Maybe try scoring higher on the DI section... or it carries little return if at all in my case?
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Guys got a small question here... I scored 685 96th percentile on the Gmat Focus, Q90 V86 DI76... is there any added value for top 10 programs in taking the exam again and try scoring higher? Maybe try scoring higher on the DI section... or it carries little return if at all in my case?
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Hi essequas,

685 is an excellent score, well done! I think you understand the situation well: a higher score is always better, but whether it's worth the effort comes down to your situation, motivation, etc. Both your quant and verbal seem to be exceptionally strong, so with some effort in DI, you may be looking at an even better score. In other words, if you have the time to prep for DI, I think you should go for it!

All the best.
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A and B are integers greater than 1 and A^3 x B is a multiple of 10. Which of the following must be a multiple of 8,000 ?

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7249 x 5772 x 5313 x 7775 x 8263 x 317 x 9937

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Astronomical data gathered by the Hubble Space Telescope suggests that yellow, medium-sized stars similar to the sun form less than ten percent of the stars in the Milky Way. Of over 75 million catalogued stars in the core of the Milky Way, where the density of stars is much higher than that in any of the arms, almost all are much larger red stars.

Which of the following, if true, would most weaken the above justification of the claim that stars similar to the sun form less than ten percent of the stars in the Milky Way?

A. There are billions of stars in regions of the Milky Way that the Hubble Space Telescope has not observed.
B. The Hubble Space Telescope would have detected any smaller stars similar to the sun in the regions of the Milky Way in which larger stars have been detected.
C. Even a large star that exists in one of the arms of the Milky Way is not as easily detected by the Hubble Space Telescope as a similar-sized star in the core of the Milky Way is.
D. The current, most accurate astronomical theories predict that almost all stars in the core of the Milky Way are millions of times larger than the sun.
E. The smaller a star is relative to the size of others in its region of the Milky Way, the more difficult it is for the Hubble Space Telescope to detect.

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Which of the following most logically completes the argument given?

Those who live in isolated agrarian communities, such as the Amish, tend to only eat what is produced locally and consume very little sugar. Few such people develop dental problems, and they do not require dentures in their old age, as is common in more urban areas. However, when such people move to urban areas and adopt high-sugar diets, they often do develop dental problems. Though they are suggestive, these facts do not prove that sugar is what causes dental problems, however, as, ____________.

A. the fact that such people do not need dentures in their old age can be accounted for by genetic factors
B. when such people move to an urban area, they make other changes in their diets as well
C. one can maintain a low-sugar diet while living in an urban area
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E. sugar is necessary for human life; one can die if one consumes absolutely no sugar
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Which of these states earned the most, in 2012, from hotel stays?

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(2) For each of the three states with the lowest revenue from tourism, earnings from hotel stays were less than 10% of that state's total revenue from tourism.
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Hi, Can someone please answer this question

A recent survey shows that people who read fiction regularly tend to have higher empathy scores than those who do not. Therefore, reading fiction increases a person’s empathy.

Which of the following is an assumption required by the argument?

A. People with higher empathy prefer fiction over nonfiction.
B. The survey measured empathy accurately.
C. Reading fiction is more popular now than in the past.
D. People who read fiction also read more in general.
E. Empathy cannot be increased through any other activities.
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Is it A?
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