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not many takers for Yale, why? Updated on: 17 Jul 2010, 11:36
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Well, my statement about Yale's not breaking down function stats being baffling was a bit too strong. It's actually not that surprising if you factor in the fact that career reports are just another marketing tool from the school's point of view. Therefore, schools try to project the most favorable image in any way possible, even if that means selectively including, omitting, breaking down information and so on. Yale has no problem breaking down GMAT numbers because it is one of the several datapoints they have concentrated on in order to appear more selective. Since their subsection percentiles are not exactly the lowest considering that they are averages, they create an image of exclusivity - the same impression they want to project with their acceptance rate. One needs to cut through the schools' marketing BS in order to get to the core of what a school really offers and how it suits your needs.
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not many takers for Yale, why? 17 Jul 2010, 11:36
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Well, my statement about Yale's not breaking down function stats being baffling was a bit too strong. It's actually not that surprising if you factor in the fact that career reports are just another marketing tool from the school's point of view. Therefore, schools try to project the most favorable image in any way possible, even if its slectively including, omitting, breaking down information and so on. Yale has no problem breaking down GMAT numbers because it is one of the several datapoints they have concentrated on in order to appear more selective. Since their subsection percentiles are not exactly the lowest considering that they are averages, they create an image of exclusivity - the same impression they want to project with their acceptance rate. One needs to cut through the schools' marketing BS in order to get to the core of what a school really offers and how it suits your needs.
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In my mind, I already have a ranking of which school's career reports are the most transparent, and what that says about the school.
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not many takers for Yale, why? 18 Jul 2010, 02:04
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I think I will include Yale in Backup R2, they seem strong for Consulting/Non-Profit
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not many takers for Yale, why? 18 Jul 2010, 02:45
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I think I will include Yale in Backup R2, they seem strong for Consulting/Non-Profit
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Hazay, good plan. They're supposed to be one of the best globally at non-profit. Not sure how strong their consulting ties are, but yes, non-profit is what they're most well known for, followed by finance. The Yale brand will probably become consolidated as a Top 10, rivalling Columbia.
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not many takers for Yale, why? 18 Jul 2010, 12:28
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I think I will include Yale in Backup R2, they seem strong for Consulting/Non-Profit

Hazay, good plan. They're supposed to be one of the best globally at non-profit. Not sure how strong their consulting ties are, but yes, non-profit is what they're most well known for, followed by finance. The Yale brand will probably become consolidated as a Top 10, rivalling Columbia.
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I am not yet sold on Yale though... but if they give $$$... It could change my mind. They have a loan forgiveness program if you go to non-profit, but i need more details.
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not many takers for Yale, why? 18 Jul 2010, 18:49
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I have seen a couple of admits, dings as so on and i found that most of them dont even mention Yale SOM in their list of applied schools.
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Much of it is a function of the class size. YSOM is roughly a third the size of the other top 10 programs (incoming class size about 230), with a proportionally smaller applicant base as well.

YSOM is known as a school strong in non-profit because historically that's what it used to be - a school that only offered a degree in public policy; the MBA itself is relatively new at SOM. Additionally, typically at other top programs, only a very small percentage of people pursue degrees in the nonprofit sector (maybe 2-3 %?). At SOM, this number is close to 10%. This doesn't mean that the school itself is only good for nonprofit type careers. There are alumni doing things in just about any field, including the ever popular consulting and investment banking.

Also, regarding SOM as a safety school: its acceptance rate and average stats up through last year are pretty competitive, and I think this year's class is just as strong if not stronger. Furthermore, looking at last year's Consortium thread, very few people who applied actually got in. Extrapolating from this, the notion of "throwing in an app because it's Yale" seems to be popular, but in actuality it appears that the adcom is getting better at picking out people who actually want to get in vs. those who could go either way.

One final thought - I was at a conference this weekend with many of the top banks (JP Morgan, BoA, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs etc.) and consulting firms (BCG, Deloitte, etc.) present. Pretty much every recruiter I talked to had good things to say about Yale and the career prospects coming out of the school; they talked vividly about several alumni who had recently started with full time offers, as well as interns who are putting in the hours this summer. With such a small class size, it's pretty easy to stand out, and the overall image that was painted was a very positive one.

This image was in pretty stark contrast to the views posted by many on this thread. Now, I'm not saying one view is 100% right or wrong, but I'd generally lend more credibility to those people in positions of influence in the field (managing directors, campus recruiters, etc.).
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not many takers for Yale, why? 20 Jul 2010, 15:33
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Thanks for the replies, really appreacite because this is a lot of information, which probably would not be given even by an admission consultant.

Your time and effort is appreciated. kudos.
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