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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than
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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept
through history, maybe none is more concentrated as
the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.
(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

What is wrong with choice (d)? thx!


D has many issues:
1. "is" is in present tense, while the sentence demands past tense.
2. "it" is not required in D as the pronoun "it" does not refer to any antecedent. Hence, it more acts like a demonstrative pronoun, which is not required here.
3. When you say "it is none that was", you are stressing on "none", while the sentence construction does not need this stress.
4. Just another thought - "maybe" is an informal use of "perhaps". "perhaps" is formal. But, just this does not clearly make D wrong.



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(E)

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than
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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

Say option C is "perhaps it was none that was more concentrated than" - I believe tense wise it is correct. correct me if wrong

Guys my question is what's wrong with C,D(purely from IT prospective). as the explanation tells for sentences like 'It is clear that'...IT acts as a place holder . How different is the current construction.


Gurus can u please put some laws where IT acts as a placeholder and where IT acts like a pronoun.

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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

Say option C is "perhaps it was none that was more concentrated than" - I believe tense wise it is correct. correct me if wrong

Guys my question is what's wrong with C,D(purely from IT prospective). as the explanation tells for sentences like 'It is clear that'...IT acts as a place holder . How different is the current construction.


Gurus can u please put some laws where IT acts as a placeholder and where IT acts like a pronoun.

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Your example "It is clear" is a perfectly logical (though I would be interested to see some examples from the OG where that construction is used). The issue with answers C & D has more to do with concision than pronouns. "it is none" and "none" have the same meaning (though you would argue that "it is none" is awkward). Since the meaning can be conveyed more concisely (and more clearly) with "none", you will eliminate the answer choices using "it is none".

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Your example "It is clear" is a perfectly logical (though I would be interested to see some examples from the OG where that construction is used). The issue with answers C & D has more to do with concision than pronouns. "it is none" and "none" have the same meaning (though you would argue that "it is none" is awkward). Since the meaning can be conveyed more concisely (and more clearly) with "none", you will eliminate the answer choices using "it is none".

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Thkx a lot for reply. Yes I do agree from concision point we can eliminate C,D.(Even I did the same).
But still i m not yet sure why for option C and D OG said IT does not have correct antecedent. My question is which are the cases where I should search for an antecedent of IT and which are the cases where i can ignore for checking pronoun issue.
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lets draw an anlogy :

We want to say : Many answers were posted on the forums .................. not a single one was satisfactory

Putting it in Gmat form : Of all the answer posts that have swept through Gmatclub forum, .......................... ( What will we fill in the blank to complete the sentence in a logical way?) : lets check

B : ..............It may be that none is satisfactory

C : ..............It is none that is satisfactory

D : ..............It is none that was satisfactory

Does B / C / D at all makes sense ( keping aside Grammar rules / pronoun ambiguity / tense prob etc ) .........

Does it in any way appears / sounds better and can score over A n E

Guess NO = Thus B / C / D Elimination zone

Left with E n A : just a minor adjustment in tense ( Such as WAS in E ) will complete the logical flow

E : ..............None was satisfactory : WAS scores over IS
A : ..............None is satisfactory = Eliminated

Leading to E , my take

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sujit2k7 wrote:
KyleWiddison wrote:
Your example "It is clear" is a perfectly logical (though I would be interested to see some examples from the OG where that construction is used). The issue with answers C & D has more to do with concision than pronouns. "it is none" and "none" have the same meaning (though you would argue that "it is none" is awkward). Since the meaning can be conveyed more concisely (and more clearly) with "none", you will eliminate the answer choices using "it is none".

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Thkx a lot for reply. Yes I do agree from concision point we can eliminate C,D.(Even I did the same).
But still i m not yet sure why for option C and D OG said IT does not have correct antecedent. My question is which are the cases where I should search for an antecedent of IT and which are the cases where i can ignore for checking pronoun issue.


That is the explanation I would expect from the GMAT. For pronoun issues, the GMAT is surprisingly tolerant of pronoun ambiguity (having multiple possible antecedants but one most likely antecedant) but the GMAt doesn't like when no antecedant exists, like in this example. That is why I asked if you had OG examples where "it" was used as a placeholder. I'm not familiar with OG problems that used "it" without a recongizable antecedant.

When you see "it" in a sentence, you should check for the antecedant to see 1) if there is one 2) if it's logical 3) if it agrees in number. I woldn't worry about "it" as a placeholder.

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@Kyle,
I got one example where OG uses IT as placeholder.(Correct me if wrong) OG12#52 .

To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, and she remained in France during the Second World War as a performer and an intelligence agent for the Resistance.

Also in the correct option D they are using IT as placeholder

D. Long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Josephine Baker made Paris her home

Now Kyle my question still remains unanswered is there any structure where I can rest in peace that IT will not have any antecedent.

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I got one example where OG uses IT as placeholder.(Correct me if wrong) OG12#52 .

To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, and she remained in France during the Second World War as a performer and an intelligence agent for the Resistance.

Also in the correct option D they are using IT as placeholder

D. Long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Josephine Baker made Paris her home

Now Kyle my question still remains unanswered is there any structure where I can rest in peace that IT will not have any antecedent.

Waiting for ur valuable inputs.


Excellent example - thanks for sharing it across.

In rare cases you may see the GMAT use a placeholder "it" to place awkward subjects or objects later in the sentence. These placeholder "it" situations are fairly easy to spot because "it" will be sitting in the first position as the subject or object instead of appearling later on in the sentence after the antecedent (subject/object).

Placeholder It situations:

It was faster to walk home than to wait for the bus. [infinitive subject now appears at the end of the sentence]
It was hard knowing that we lost the game because we were lazy. [that-clause subject now appears at the end]
The monsoon rains made it possible for us to canoe in our backyard [infinitive subject appears at end].

Normal Pronoun It situations
The business had to close because it ran out of cash. [replacing the subject]
I love that dog because it never barks at night. [replacing the object]

Again, placeholder it situations are rare, but as you pointed out they can appear in a GMAT sentence!

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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

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The answer is not disputable. However, I have different opinions about the OG's explanation. "It is ... that/who..." can be used to emphasize a part of a sentence, although I don't know how to name this use of "it". For example, "It is Tom that/who did this horrible thing."

In this question, it is clear that the writer doesn't want to emphasize "none", so the choices with "it is ... that ..." structure are wrong.

The next thing that I am confused with is the use of past tense in E. Why the simple present tense is wrong? For example,
"Of all the apples my mom has given to me, none is more delicious than the one she gave to me yesterday."
Is the use of the simple present tense correct in the above example?

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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

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The answer is not disputable. However, I have different opinions about the OG's explanation. "It is ... that/who..." can be used to emphasize a part of a sentence, although I don't know how to name this use of "it". For example, "It is Tom that/who did this horrible thing."

In this question, it is clear that the writer doesn't want to emphasize "none", so the choices with "it is ... that ..." structure are wrong.

The next thing that I am confused with is the use of past tense in E. Why the simple present tense is wrong? For example,
"Of all the apples my mom has given to me, none is more delicious than the one she gave to me yesterday."
Is the use of the simple present tense correct in the above example?


In my opinion, we are comparing two events that both occured in the past

First event : the vast tides of migration that have swept through history

Second event : the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.

So, we must use the simple past to render this comparaison logical.
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dhler wrote:
Even if we are comparing two past events, the comparison itself is actually eternal, i.e. it is always true, isn't it? That's why I think the simple present should be right.

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In my opinion, we are comparing two events that both occured in the past

First event : the vast tides of migration that have swept through history

Second event : the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.

So, we must use the simple past to render this comparaison logical.


It's not.

For instance : which of the following is correct in your opinion ?

Of the football players that marked the history, none was better known than Diego Maradonna.

Of the football players that marked the history, none is better known than Diego Maradonna.

We are clearly talking about history, so we must use past tense to emphasize that this comparaison is only valid for the football players who played before and who marked the history.
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dhler wrote:
Even if we are comparing two past events, the comparison itself is actually eternal, i.e. it is always true, isn't it? That's why I think the simple present should be right.

Rock750 wrote:

In my opinion, we are comparing two events that both occured in the past

First event : the vast tides of migration that have swept through history

Second event : the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.

So, we must use the simple past to render this comparaison logical.


It's not.

For instance : which of the following is correct in your opinion ?

Of the football players that marked the history, none was better known than Diego Maradonna.

Of the football players that marked the history, none is better known than Diego Maradonna.

We are clearly talking about history, so we must use past tense to emphasize that this comparaison is only valid for the football players who played before and who marked the history.


To me the first sentence means that it is a comparison that no longer is true. However, the second means that the comparison is still true that no one is better than Diego Maradonna.

So, in the original sentence, if we use past tense, I think that the comparison is no longer true. However, the present perfect tense is used in the beginning preposition phrase. That tense should tell us that the comparison is still true.

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Yes totally but both Maradonna and football players that marked the history no longer play today and that's why people nowadays are not likely to know them more than people who were there to watch them. Furthermore, we cannot use present tense because we don't know if this comparaison is still true as you pointed out whereas with the use of past tense, we are sure that the sentence make sense :)
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Mates, both events are referring past...but have swept is present perfect, which means effect still continues in present. With regards to simple present tense in next clause, because of the use of "may be/perhaps" we cannot state a fact using simple present. So I believe best option is to use past in choice E.
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one event that occured in the past is being compared to all the events that have occured till now.
So the past event is denoted with a simple past . This past event (ie. one specific event that has occured in the past- that event that got 12 million immigrants) is compared to all the events until now( ie all the events in the past and all the events till now. so what tense is needed for an event has started in the past and is applicable even today? That is the reason why we denote all the other events in the present perfect!)

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could any1 give me a precise idea about the difference between perhaps and May?
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Maybe and perhaps are interchangeable;perhaps is slightly more formal.

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Could someone explain the usage of Present perfect tense
Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history .

Why not Of all the vast tides of migration that swept through history ?
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1 request please never doubt official questions. They are much like ur boss they are never wrong.
Here the present perfect denotes that migration is still present as an Action performed by the particular one was ......

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