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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.


(A) maybe none is more concentrated as

(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as

(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated than

(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated than

(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history and through every continent in the world, probably none was more concentrated than the wave that washed 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.

Originally posted by gtr022001 on 06 Dec 2010, 23:33.
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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept
through history, maybe none is more concentrated as
the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.
(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

What is wrong with choice (d)? thx!


D has many issues:
1. "is" is in present tense, while the sentence demands past tense.
2. "it" is not required in D as the pronoun "it" does not refer to any antecedent. Hence, it more acts like a demonstrative pronoun, which is not required here.
3. When you say "it is none that was", you are stressing on "none", while the sentence construction does not need this stress.
4. Just another thought - "maybe" is an informal use of "perhaps". "perhaps" is formal. But, just this does not clearly make D wrong.



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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

Say option C is "perhaps it was none that was more concentrated than" - I believe tense wise it is correct. correct me if wrong

Guys my question is what's wrong with C,D(purely from IT prospective). as the explanation tells for sentences like 'It is clear that'...IT acts as a place holder . How different is the current construction.


Gurus can u please put some laws where IT acts as a placeholder and where IT acts like a pronoun.

No points for guessing ans. (OG12/Q4)
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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto
American shores in little more than three decades.

(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated
than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated
than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

Say option C is "perhaps it was none that was more concentrated than" - I believe tense wise it is correct. correct me if wrong

Guys my question is what's wrong with C,D(purely from IT prospective). as the explanation tells for sentences like 'It is clear that'...IT acts as a place holder . How different is the current construction.


Gurus can u please put some laws where IT acts as a placeholder and where IT acts like a pronoun.

No points for guessing ans. (OG12/Q4)


Your example "It is clear" is a perfectly logical (though I would be interested to see some examples from the OG where that construction is used). The issue with answers C & D has more to do with concision than pronouns. "it is none" and "none" have the same meaning (though you would argue that "it is none" is awkward). Since the meaning can be conveyed more concisely (and more clearly) with "none", you will eliminate the answer choices using "it is none".

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Your example "It is clear" is a perfectly logical (though I would be interested to see some examples from the OG where that construction is used). The issue with answers C & D has more to do with concision than pronouns. "it is none" and "none" have the same meaning (though you would argue that "it is none" is awkward). Since the meaning can be conveyed more concisely (and more clearly) with "none", you will eliminate the answer choices using "it is none".

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Thkx a lot for reply. Yes I do agree from concision point we can eliminate C,D.(Even I did the same).
But still i m not yet sure why for option C and D OG said IT does not have correct antecedent. My question is which are the cases where I should search for an antecedent of IT and which are the cases where i can ignore for checking pronoun issue.
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lets draw an anlogy :

We want to say : Many answers were posted on the forums .................. not a single one was satisfactory

Putting it in Gmat form : Of all the answer posts that have swept through Gmatclub forum, .......................... ( What will we fill in the blank to complete the sentence in a logical way?) : lets check

B : ..............It may be that none is satisfactory

C : ..............It is none that is satisfactory

D : ..............It is none that was satisfactory

Does B / C / D at all makes sense ( keping aside Grammar rules / pronoun ambiguity / tense prob etc ) .........

Does it in any way appears / sounds better and can score over A n E

Guess NO = Thus B / C / D Elimination zone

Left with E n A : just a minor adjustment in tense ( Such as WAS in E ) will complete the logical flow

E : ..............None was satisfactory : WAS scores over IS
A : ..............None is satisfactory = Eliminated

Leading to E , my take
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KyleWiddison wrote:
Your example "It is clear" is a perfectly logical (though I would be interested to see some examples from the OG where that construction is used). The issue with answers C & D has more to do with concision than pronouns. "it is none" and "none" have the same meaning (though you would argue that "it is none" is awkward). Since the meaning can be conveyed more concisely (and more clearly) with "none", you will eliminate the answer choices using "it is none".

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Thkx a lot for reply. Yes I do agree from concision point we can eliminate C,D.(Even I did the same).
But still i m not yet sure why for option C and D OG said IT does not have correct antecedent. My question is which are the cases where I should search for an antecedent of IT and which are the cases where i can ignore for checking pronoun issue.


That is the explanation I would expect from the GMAT. For pronoun issues, the GMAT is surprisingly tolerant of pronoun ambiguity (having multiple possible antecedants but one most likely antecedant) but the GMAt doesn't like when no antecedant exists, like in this example. That is why I asked if you had OG examples where "it" was used as a placeholder. I'm not familiar with OG problems that used "it" without a recongizable antecedant.

When you see "it" in a sentence, you should check for the antecedant to see 1) if there is one 2) if it's logical 3) if it agrees in number. I woldn't worry about "it" as a placeholder.

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@Kyle,
I got one example where OG uses IT as placeholder.(Correct me if wrong) OG12#52 .

To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, and she remained in France during the Second World War as a performer and an intelligence agent for the Resistance.

Also in the correct option D they are using IT as placeholder

D. Long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Josephine Baker made Paris her home

Now Kyle my question still remains unanswered is there any structure where I can rest in peace that IT will not have any antecedent.

Waiting for ur valuable inputs.
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@Kyle,
I got one example where OG uses IT as placeholder.(Correct me if wrong) OG12#52 .

To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, and she remained in France during the Second World War as a performer and an intelligence agent for the Resistance.

Also in the correct option D they are using IT as placeholder

D. Long before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Josephine Baker made Paris her home

Now Kyle my question still remains unanswered is there any structure where I can rest in peace that IT will not have any antecedent.

Waiting for ur valuable inputs.


Excellent example - thanks for sharing it across.

In rare cases you may see the GMAT use a placeholder "it" to place awkward subjects or objects later in the sentence. These placeholder "it" situations are fairly easy to spot because "it" will be sitting in the first position as the subject or object instead of appearling later on in the sentence after the antecedent (subject/object).

Placeholder It situations:

It was faster to walk home than to wait for the bus. [infinitive subject now appears at the end of the sentence]
It was hard knowing that we lost the game because we were lazy. [that-clause subject now appears at the end]
The monsoon rains made it possible for us to canoe in our backyard [infinitive subject appears at end].

Normal Pronoun It situations
The business had to close because it ran out of cash. [replacing the subject]
I love that dog because it never barks at night. [replacing the object]

Again, placeholder it situations are rare, but as you pointed out they can appear in a GMAT sentence!

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one event that occured in the past is being compared to all the events that have occured till now.
So the past event is denoted with a simple past . This past event (ie. one specific event that has occured in the past- that event that got 12 million immigrants) is compared to all the events until now( ie all the events in the past and all the events till now. so what tense is needed for an event has started in the past and is applicable even today? That is the reason why we denote all the other events in the present perfect!)

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Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history, maybe none is more concentrated as the wave that brought 12 million immigrants onto American shores in little more than three decades.
(A) maybe none is more concentrated as
(B) it may be that none is more concentrated as
(C) perhaps it is none that is more concentrated than
(D) maybe it is none that was more concentrated than
(E) perhaps none was more concentrated than

My answer was (C). Now I understand "it is none" is slightly wordy but what's wrong with the tense? The first part of the sentence has a present perfect tense, and describes all the tides from a distant past till the the present time. So by that logic shouldn't it convey the meaning that until now no wave is more concentrated than the wave ... Then why wouldn't (C) be the correct choice?
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I think the answer is E

My logic- As the sentence is talking about a wave that happened in the past, so you have to use past tense to signify the change in tone.

See example maybe this helps:
Of all of Maroon5 performances, none was as memorable as the one performed at the Emmy's. ( Correct tense usage)
Of all the Maroon 5 performances none is as memorable as the one performed as the Emmy's ( Sounds weird, right ?)

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My answer was (C). Now I understand "it is none" is slightly wordy but what's wrong with the tense? The first part of the sentence has a present perfect tense, and describes all the tides from a distant past till the the present time. So by that logic shouldn't it convey the meaning that until now no wave is more concentrated than the wave ... Then why wouldn't (C) be the correct choice?


Yeah, that "it is none" phrase should have been a major red flag for you. "It" doesn't have a clear referent and you won't see the GMAT use that phrasing in a correct answer.

I can see how you might be getting confused with the verb tense. The present perfect is used not to show that each wave is still "currently" sweeping, but rather the present perfect is used to show that waves of migration continue to "sweep" through history. The wave that is discussed in this question has come and gone, so we use the past tense to describe that wave.

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Deepro wrote:
My answer was (C). Now I understand "it is none" is slightly wordy but what's wrong with the tense? The first part of the sentence has a present perfect tense, and describes all the tides from a distant past till the the present time. So by that logic shouldn't it convey the meaning that until now no wave is more concentrated than the wave ... Then why wouldn't (C) be the correct choice?


Yeah, that "it is none" phrase should have been a major red flag for you. "It" doesn't have a clear referent and you won't see the GMAT use that phrasing in a correct answer.

I can see how you might be getting confused with the verb tense. The present perfect is used not to show that each wave is still "currently" sweeping, but rather the present perfect is used to show that waves of migration continue to "sweep" through history. The wave that is discussed in this question has come and gone, so we use the past tense to describe that wave.

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Kyle or E-GMAT or Mike or anyone,

Please clarify my question/concept.

Present tense is used to describe a fact that is current in the present or is used to describe a general habit/practice.

For example, if the sentence reads - "No other wave is more concentrated than the wave that brought 12 million immigrants to shore"

So there was a wave that brought 12 million immigrants and that wave completed its action. But till now no other wave is more more concentrated ( (a fact that is still current in the present) than the wave in the past (the one that brought 12 million immigrants)

I have major confusion in past tense/present tense concepts. So Please clarify my understanding. I will highly appreciate it.
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For example, if the sentence reads - "No other wave is more concentrated than the wave that brought 12 million immigrants to shore"

So there was a wave that brought 12 million immigrants and that wave completed its action.

That's the issue. The moment you say: No other wave is more concentrated, it does not mean there was a wave. It means: there is a wave, which is obviously incorrect, because the wave clearly does not exist any more; it started and finished in the past, and hence, the use of simple past is most suitable.

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But till now no other wave is more more concentrated ( (a fact that is still current in the present) than the wave in the past (the one that brought 12 million immigrants)

Yes, and the use of present perfect: Of all the vast tides of migration that have swept through history in the sentence is making it clear that till now no wave has even been more concentrated.
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Hi,

A is incorrect because Comparative words like more require than than as so A is incorrect.
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