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# Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the

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The Official Guide for GMAT Review, 12th Edition, 2009

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Question No.: SC 69
Page: 670

Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was

(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was

(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was

(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of

(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

Originally posted by pierrealexandre77 on 09 Nov 2009, 09:16.
Last edited by hazelnut on 19 Sep 2018, 22:11, edited 3 times in total.
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The sequence here according to me is

1. seeing the body – first act – so past perfect 'had seen' is necessary
2. Having no doubt – the second act- hence simple past is needed- 'had no doubt' is used in the sense of 'possessed no doubt'. – 'had' is used as the simple past of 'have'

So E is ok in the use of appropriate tenses.
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09 Nov 2009, 09:42
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A has 2 problems

1) DID NOT DOUBT should be HAD NO DOUBTS
because if you notice the start of the sentence,it says "ONCE THEY BALH BLAH BLAH" which means when they started off with the experiment,tthey had some doubts whch got resolved when they BLAH BLAH BLAH...this EFFECT is not represented as well by DID NOT DOUBT as by HAD NO DOUBTS

2) "BODY RECOVERED WAS" THE MAN
new found BODY is being compared with MAN when actually
new found BODY should be compared with THE BODY OF THE MAN..
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It cant be A

read it again and get the total picture
apart from TENSE issue
there is another Wrong COMPARISON ISSUE here
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man
the Body=the man

pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

I chose A. Could someone explain me what's wrong with A?
Thanks

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During the question I was trying to match PAST PERFECT to SIMPLE PAST. I picked A originally since "did not doubt" sounded like SIMPLE PAST tense to me. I couldn't understand why E was correct. This was bothering me all morning until I realized that I incorrectly thought "had no doubt" was in PAST PERFECT tense. In fact it is in SIMPLE PAST tense. Everytime I see "had" my mind thinks past perfect.
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21 Jan 2014, 10:27
Hi,

Just a basic question . The Sentence structure is Once X had (Past perfect)Y Happened (Past tense). Is "Had no Doubt" is a past tense or perfect tense?

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01 Apr 2014, 16:40
pierrealexandre77 wrote:
Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was
(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was
(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of
(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of

I chose A. Could someone explain me what's wrong with A?
Thanks

The body .... was the man ! this's even nonsensical. It should be "the body .... was that of .."
A,B and C are out.
At the beginning of the sentence it says " Once they had seen that indicate that there is something happened before a simple past event. So, we need to use a simple past to make sense of the prompt.
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06 Dec 2017, 02:01
Am still doubting why D cannot be the answer, How can had doubt be in simple past tense. Had doubt must be past perfect and Doubted is simple past. Im sorry if i sound moron but am really not understanding what am i missing out here ??
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Am still doubting why D cannot be the answer, How can had doubt be in simple past tense. Had doubt must be past perfect and Doubted is simple past. Im sorry if i sound moron but am really not understanding what am i missing out here ??

Hi longhaul123, the structure of past perfect is:

Past particiiple of the verb doubt is doubted.

So, the past perfect tense of the verb doubt would be had doubted. Hence, had doubt is not past perfect.

Incidentally, the real source of confusion here is that in this sentence, doubt is not used as a verb, but as a noun.

When used as noun, following would be the various tense forms (note that have is the verb here):

I have a doubt.
- Present tense

- Past tense

- Present perfect tense

- Past Perfect

When doubt is used as a verb, following would be the various tense forms:

I doubt.
- Present tense

I doubted.
- Past tense

I have doubted.
- Present perfect tense

- Past Perfect

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There is no need to make one's life miserable by going into the aspect of past perfect tense and past tense first. After all, you cannot compare a dead body to a man. It should be only in the possessive case of a man. Therefore A, B, and C can be given the boot.

Between D and E, basic intuition can tell us that use of the present tense 'have' in choice D has no licit place in this context.
Therefore, E is the ultimate.
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23 Apr 2019, 05:59
It should jump off the screen when we see the two different comparisons: "the body was the man" and "the body was that of the man", hence A, B, and C are out.

Once they had seen the report from the medical examiner, the investigators did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was the man who had attempted to escape from the state prison.

(A) did not doubt whether the body recovered from the river was

(B) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was

(C) had not doubted that the body recovered from the river was

(D) have no doubt whether the body recovered from the river was that of - the past perfect tense in the beginning indicates that the verb "have" is incorrect;

(E) had no doubt that the body recovered from the river was that of - good
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