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One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  Updated on: 23 Aug 2018, 00:11
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One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those with a certain level of income; although the idea was rejected, citizens can choose to refuse social security payments for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings, if they want.


(A) for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings

(B) in favor of private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings

(C) for private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings

(D) and use private sources of income, derived either by pension funds or personal savings

(E) rather than private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings
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Originally posted by Questor on 21 Jan 2005, 23:56.
Last edited by Bunuel on 23 Aug 2018, 00:11, edited 2 times in total.
Renamed the topic, edited the question and added the OA.
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  23 Jan 2005, 14:18
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Hi. I got this one wrong too. The OA is C. Here's the explanation from the Kaplan GMAT 800 book:

"First off, the correct idiom for 'refuse' is 'for' ('He refused one for the other'). No, this isn't a common idiom, nor is it a particularly eloquent one, and that's why this question is hard. Eliminate B, D, and E. Choices A and C ask you to choose between 'derived by' and 'derived from.' 'Derived from' is the correct idiom."

One more idiom to be added to our list. :)
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  22 Jan 2005, 13:29
I wonder the same thing. What is the lesson behind here?

"in favor of"

vs.

"for"
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  23 Jan 2005, 14:38
Actually, I picked (C) but hestitate to post since so many people posted (B).
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  23 Jan 2005, 14:53
qhoc0010,

Great! You did get this one right!

I usually post my own answer and reasoning first before looking at other people's answers.

So feel free to stick your neck out because you may be right. :-)
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  24 Jan 2005, 09:37
(C)...i almost freaked out when i saw a bunch of (B)'s until i saw the OA.,
Derived from it the right idiom and something can only a payment "for" something else.
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  24 Jan 2005, 10:47
Thank god the answer is C. I had really started doubting my capabilities when I saw I was so away from the answers the others had......
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  24 Jan 2005, 12:27
I selected "C" as well...


b) in favor or private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings
Just neglect everything and read this:

citizens can choose to refuse social security payments in favor or private sources of income -> Doesn't make sense..


c) for private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  21 Jul 2015, 06:20
Error: Parallelism

a) for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings derived by x or by would be correct
b) in favor or private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings or should be replaced by for
c) for private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings [i]derived from x or y[/i]
d) and use private sources of income, derived either by pension funds or personal savings in correct usage of idiot either x or y. In this case it is either by x or y
e) rather than private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings" the concern is about rejecting one and choosing the other, rather makes an elimination only.
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  11 Feb 2016, 18:42
Questor wrote:
"One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those with a certain level of income; although the idea was rejected, citizens can choose to refuse social security payments for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings, if they want.
a) for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings
b) in favor or private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings
c) for private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings
d) and use private sources of income, derived either by pension funds or personal savings
e) rather than private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings"


Mirror, mirror, on the wall, which idiom is the toughest of them all?


1. idiom - derived from
2. idiom either X or Y. X and Y must be parallel.

A - first idiom error
B - in FAVOR OF - at least that's the idiom I know. so out.
C - looks good.
D - idiom 2 incorrect.
E - refuse X rather than Y - changes the meaning. " in the end - what it is used for?

C for me.
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Re: One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those [#permalink] New post  23 Aug 2018, 00:11
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One idea for Social Security reform was to disallow payments for those with a certain level of income; although the idea was rejected, citizens can choose to refuse social security payments for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings, if they want.


(A) for private sources of income, whether derived by pension funds or personal savings

(B) in favor of private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings

(C) for private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings

(D) and use private sources of income, derived either by pension funds or personal savings

(E) rather than private sources of income, whether derived from pension funds or personal savings


KAPLAN OFFICIAL EXPLANATION:



First off, the correct idiom for refuse is for (He refused one for the other). No, this isn't a common idiom, nor is it a particularly eloquent one, and that's why this question is hard. Eliminate (B), (D), and (E). Choices (A) and (C) ask you to choose between derived by and derived from. Derived from is the correct idiom. (C) is right. Unfortunately, idioms just need to be memorized since they follow no general rules, but you'll have an intuitive sense of most of them. You'll have the best shot of choosing the correct idiom if you isolate it or consider it in terms of a simple sentence, as we did with He refused one for the other above.
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