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# Query - Performance on MGMAT tests

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30 Jan 2012, 06:24
Hi All,
I have a query I have taken 2 MGMAT tests so far
the score on the 1st was 620 (Q42,V33)
the score on the second was 720 (Q44,V45)

the time gap between the two was 15 days

The major jumb was in verbal from 69 percentile to 99 percentile
Quant moved from 66 percentile to 74 percentile Is this uncommon - more or less a fluke?
Any suggestion or comments are welcome

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It's unusual to improve that much in only 15 days, yes. But it's also generally not possible to have a "fluke" high score unless you got unbelievably lucky or somehow gave yourself a major artificial advantage.

For instance, if you did the essays on the 620 test, but skipped them on the 720 test, and gave yourself extra long breaks on the 720 test, then that might explain why one test would be so much higher. In this case, the lower score would likely be closer to your true scoring range, because you would have given yourself advantages that you can't replicate on the real test.

Alternatively, if you messed up the timing on the first test and, say, ran out of time and had a bunch of wrong answers in a row, or had to rush throughout the section and made a bunch of careless mistakes on problems you should've gotten right, that would have lowered your score. If you then didn't have those problems on the 720 test, then the higher score would be closer to your true scoring range.

Or, possibly, all of the above apply, and the "true range" is somewhere in the middle.

Can you give us any insight into what you think happened?

Also, a couple of things. Take all practice tests under 100% official conditions, including essays. Use the below article to analyze your test to see if you have any timing problems (almost everyone does):
http://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... ice-tests/

That will also give you a good handle on your content strengths and weaknesses. Finally, if you do have timing problems, here's how to fix them:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/blog/index ... anagement/

Good luck!

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30 Jan 2012, 09:23
Hi Stacey,
Thanks for the response. The tests were under timed conditions. Only thing. I dint write the essays for either test.Otherwise everything was the same.
As far as preparation, I concentrated on areas I got wrong in the first test, before I took the second one

Am having timing issues, in quant even on the test where I scored 720, I was unable to complete the last 4 questions and guessed at least 3.
On verbal on the other hand, I finished the test and had 18-20 minutes to spare.

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30 Jan 2012, 09:58
Thanks for the informative post. I had similar questions on how exactly to go about determining MGMAT practice test scores/data. I am about to get to the point where I will only start taking practice tests and re-reviewing problem areas only, and having a methodology to categorize and group things into certainly helps.

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30 Jan 2012, 22:27
devinawilliam83 wrote:
Hi All,
I have a query I have taken 2 MGMAT tests so far
the score on the 1st was 620 (Q42,V33)
the score on the second was 720 (Q44,V45)

the time gap between the two was 15 days

The major jumb was in verbal from 69 percentile to 99 percentile
Quant moved from 66 percentile to 74 percentile Is this uncommon - more or less a fluke?
Any suggestion or comments are welcome

A jump from V33 to V45 generally doesn't take place within a time frame of 15 days but it can happen. One reason could be difference in test conditions (as Stacey mentioned or say you were extremely tired during the first test but fresh and raring to go during the second)
But since you feel that the test conditions were the same for both the tests, it might have to do with what you did in the 15 days. Sometimes, even a lecture of 3 hrs can make a ton of difference (I have seen this often in CR - People are lost at the beginning of the lecture and by the end of it, everything seems to make sense). Perhaps you were not very familiar with certain question types during the first test and made a serious effort in the 15 days. This would mean that you were good in Verbal all along and just needed some conceptual understanding to get a high score. Mind you, it is all a speculation - one possible explanation for the fluctuation.
We will know for sure only after you take the third test!
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31 Jan 2012, 10:59
Dear instructors,

could u please explain me what to do if on mock tests one sees the question seen before on various forums? this fact can artificially lift the one's score. how to avoid this,and have a 'real pic' ?
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LalaB wrote:
Dear instructors,

could u please explain me what to do if on mock tests one sees the question seen before on various forums? this fact can artificially lift the one's score. how to avoid this,and have a 'real pic' ?

My suggestion would be to solve the question and get to the answer nevertheless. Take whatever time you need to arrive at the answer with your own calculations (even if you remember the answer).

There is no point in skipping the question because you know how to solve it. This means that if a similar questions comes in the test, you will know how to solve it. So there is no artificial score-boost that you are getting. It is knowledge that you have gained, no matter what the source is.

Also, there is no point in marking the answer right away and moving on (if you remember the answer) because you have to ensure that you can solve such a question with different numerical values under time constraints.

Anyway, since the test is adaptive, whatever you do, one or two such questions will not matter much.
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It's very hard to get an accurate score if you have seen many of the questions before. This is especially true on verbal, because working on a reading passage you've seen before is inherently easier than working on something new, even if you don't remember any of the answers. This is one good reason not to use online sources that use test material until you've actually taken those tests.

However, if you do see something familiar, try to answer whatever you honestly think you'd answer if you hadn't seen the problem before. Karishma is correct that if you know how to do that kind of problem in general, then you don't need to put the wrong answer in the name of accuracy. However, if there is some twist or trick that you don't feel you would recognize without prior knowledge, then be careful about using that knowledge on the question. The danger is that you will get pushed up into higher-score territory, and this might not accurately reflect your current GMAT ability. Just keep in mind that no matter what you do, you are not going to get a "real pic" if you are working with familiar material.
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