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16 Aug 2015, 09:19
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Hi everyone,
I intend to retake GMAT in the next few days, after a 640 (V26) on 23 June 2015. I've just took a 2nd test in GMAT Exam Pack 1. The Verbal result frustrated me so much. So I really really need your advice so that I could reach my goal: V38.
Firstly, here is my progress:
- 12/4/15: 1st GMAT Prep after all Manhattan Strategy Guides and CR Bible: V31 (SC 33, CR36);
- 19/4: Manhattan test 1: V30;
- 25/4: Manhattan test 2: V34;
- 28/4: purchase e-GMAT SC course;
- 9/5: Manhattan test 3: V33;
- 16/5: Manhattan test 4: V32;
- 16/5: Upgrade to e-GMAT Verbal online course;
- 24/5: GMAT Prep test 2: V30 (SC 23, CR30);
- 29/5: GMAT Prep test 1 (retake): V41 (SC40, CR42) (of course overlapped questions)
- 01/6: GMAT Prep test 2 (retake): V40 (SC35, CR51); (overlapped questions)
- 11/6: GMAT Pack 1 test 1: V31 (SC35, CR30);
- 13/6: Manhattan test 5: V33;
- 23/6: Real Test V26;
- 7/7: Upgrade to e-GMAT Verbal Live course
- 24/7: Veritas test 1: V35;
- 31/7: Veritas test 2: V31;
- 8/8: Veritas test 3: V36;
- 9/8: Manhattan test 6: V40 (from this test, I started to draw a table with 5 choices in column and 41 questions number in row in Verbal section): the result was really encouraging;
- 10/8: Veritas test 4: V30;
- Today 16/8: GMAT Pack 1 test 2: V25 (SC 28, CR26)
That's the whole progress. I just concern Verbal section since in Quant section, I consistently score Q50-51. My goal in Verbal is V38.
I was really confident that I could reach that score because in the preparation progress, I'm quite sure that I comprehend SC and CR sections (I am a bit weak in RC, however still be able to get 65-70% accuracy in OG, Verbal review and GMAT Prep collection). After each CAT test, I tried to find out problems that prevent me from getting better score and to fix them in the next CATs. After scores between 33-36 in Manhattan and Veritas, especially the V40 in Man test 6, I think that my level is around 35-36. But the scores in the Real test on 23/6 and in today GMAT Pack 1 test 2 bashed me. I don't understand how my Verbal scores in 4 GMAT Prep tests were so different from those in other CATs (I did emphasize so much in analyzing each official question, finding why the correct choice is correct and why each incorrect choice is incorrect).
Regarding SC, at first I determined that it would help to boost my Verbal score and would be my strongest point, especially after I attend SC course and SC live sessions of e-GMAT. In e-GMAT Scholaranium, I was able to get 89-90 percentile in SC several times. I realize that I am really good at highly difficult, complexly structured and meaning-based SC questions. But somehow, I always get stuck at short questions with simple structures (they appears so frequently in first 10 questions in Prep tests and real tests). Fatally, most of them are sub-600 level questions (based on the estimation of GMAT Club). I know that I have no way but learn from mistakes. But the number of such simple structures seems to be unlimited, so I keep making mistakes when facing them. For example:
1. After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit. (I never faced this structure before. It is not so... that structure, so I decided that "that" cannot modify "jet engine" from this position, thus ending choosing another choice, which is of course incorrect);
2. The contractor and the engineer agree on the cause of the bridge failure , but both blame the other (the correct answer is "each blames the other) (again, what I am familiar is the structure "they/we talk (or blame) to each other", so I decided to choose the plural noun "both" here")
3. Socially and environmentally responsible investing is on the rise: last year in the United States, over $2 trillion was invested in funds that screen companies according to a variety of criteria such as adherence to labor standards, protection of the environment, and observance of human rights. (I chose the incorrect choice "in accordance with such a variety of criteria as" because the only structure of "according" I faced has meaning similar to "based on" or "refer to"; and "in accordance with" is good from meaning standpoint)
In all 3 questions above, I tried to apply meaning-based approach of e-GMAT. But the meanings in all choices were not quite different (I knew that they are different after I review, but just so subtle). And what drives me not to choose the correct answer was the strange grammar structure. I just do not understand why people tackle such kind of questions so easily, making them sub-600 level questions and thus killing my score).
Regarding CR section: I also apply prethinking approach of e-GMAT. And actually, when practicing, I was very good in CR (sticking to the premise-conclusion links, prethinking, picking the best choice while getting rid of irrelevant choices). But in CAT tests, CR is also disaster to me as I was not be able to understand the content of the argument after first time of reading (or even after second or third). When I review, I could easily comprehend the argument and pick the correct choice. I don't know the problem was due to the anxiety or the low stamina after 2.5 hours. I think I was not nervous or anxious. My brain just could not absorb any information more, even though I used energy drinks and bars in the break.
RC section: just as in CR questions, not information any more to the brain
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So, I am really sorry for the long post, but I really really need advice, and I think you understand my depression. I used to intend to retake the GMAT in next few days so that I could have time for the application. Now, I do not know what will be my plan. My previous goal was V38, so that I could have a score of 730 with a Q50 or Q51. But I think I should lower the goal, probably to V35-36, although it is still far from where I am now.
Big thanks,
I intend to retake GMAT in the next few days, after a 640 (V26) on 23 June 2015. I've just took a 2nd test in GMAT Exam Pack 1. The Verbal result frustrated me so much. So I really really need your advice so that I could reach my goal: V38.
Firstly, here is my progress:
- 12/4/15: 1st GMAT Prep after all Manhattan Strategy Guides and CR Bible: V31 (SC 33, CR36);
- 19/4: Manhattan test 1: V30;
- 25/4: Manhattan test 2: V34;
- 28/4: purchase e-GMAT SC course;
- 9/5: Manhattan test 3: V33;
- 16/5: Manhattan test 4: V32;
- 16/5: Upgrade to e-GMAT Verbal online course;
- 24/5: GMAT Prep test 2: V30 (SC 23, CR30);
- 29/5: GMAT Prep test 1 (retake): V41 (SC40, CR42) (of course overlapped questions)
- 01/6: GMAT Prep test 2 (retake): V40 (SC35, CR51); (overlapped questions)
- 11/6: GMAT Pack 1 test 1: V31 (SC35, CR30);
- 13/6: Manhattan test 5: V33;
- 23/6: Real Test V26;
- 7/7: Upgrade to e-GMAT Verbal Live course
- 24/7: Veritas test 1: V35;
- 31/7: Veritas test 2: V31;
- 8/8: Veritas test 3: V36;
- 9/8: Manhattan test 6: V40 (from this test, I started to draw a table with 5 choices in column and 41 questions number in row in Verbal section): the result was really encouraging;
- 10/8: Veritas test 4: V30;
- Today 16/8: GMAT Pack 1 test 2: V25 (SC 28, CR26)
That's the whole progress. I just concern Verbal section since in Quant section, I consistently score Q50-51. My goal in Verbal is V38.
I was really confident that I could reach that score because in the preparation progress, I'm quite sure that I comprehend SC and CR sections (I am a bit weak in RC, however still be able to get 65-70% accuracy in OG, Verbal review and GMAT Prep collection). After each CAT test, I tried to find out problems that prevent me from getting better score and to fix them in the next CATs. After scores between 33-36 in Manhattan and Veritas, especially the V40 in Man test 6, I think that my level is around 35-36. But the scores in the Real test on 23/6 and in today GMAT Pack 1 test 2 bashed me. I don't understand how my Verbal scores in 4 GMAT Prep tests were so different from those in other CATs (I did emphasize so much in analyzing each official question, finding why the correct choice is correct and why each incorrect choice is incorrect).
Regarding SC, at first I determined that it would help to boost my Verbal score and would be my strongest point, especially after I attend SC course and SC live sessions of e-GMAT. In e-GMAT Scholaranium, I was able to get 89-90 percentile in SC several times. I realize that I am really good at highly difficult, complexly structured and meaning-based SC questions. But somehow, I always get stuck at short questions with simple structures (they appears so frequently in first 10 questions in Prep tests and real tests). Fatally, most of them are sub-600 level questions (based on the estimation of GMAT Club). I know that I have no way but learn from mistakes. But the number of such simple structures seems to be unlimited, so I keep making mistakes when facing them. For example:
1. After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit. (I never faced this structure before. It is not so... that structure, so I decided that "that" cannot modify "jet engine" from this position, thus ending choosing another choice, which is of course incorrect);
2. The contractor and the engineer agree on the cause of the bridge failure , but both blame the other (the correct answer is "each blames the other) (again, what I am familiar is the structure "they/we talk (or blame) to each other", so I decided to choose the plural noun "both" here")
3. Socially and environmentally responsible investing is on the rise: last year in the United States, over $2 trillion was invested in funds that screen companies according to a variety of criteria such as adherence to labor standards, protection of the environment, and observance of human rights. (I chose the incorrect choice "in accordance with such a variety of criteria as" because the only structure of "according" I faced has meaning similar to "based on" or "refer to"; and "in accordance with" is good from meaning standpoint)
In all 3 questions above, I tried to apply meaning-based approach of e-GMAT. But the meanings in all choices were not quite different (I knew that they are different after I review, but just so subtle). And what drives me not to choose the correct answer was the strange grammar structure. I just do not understand why people tackle such kind of questions so easily, making them sub-600 level questions and thus killing my score).
Regarding CR section: I also apply prethinking approach of e-GMAT. And actually, when practicing, I was very good in CR (sticking to the premise-conclusion links, prethinking, picking the best choice while getting rid of irrelevant choices). But in CAT tests, CR is also disaster to me as I was not be able to understand the content of the argument after first time of reading (or even after second or third). When I review, I could easily comprehend the argument and pick the correct choice. I don't know the problem was due to the anxiety or the low stamina after 2.5 hours. I think I was not nervous or anxious. My brain just could not absorb any information more, even though I used energy drinks and bars in the break.
RC section: just as in CR questions, not information any more to the brain
.So, I am really sorry for the long post, but I really really need advice, and I think you understand my depression. I used to intend to retake the GMAT in next few days so that I could have time for the application. Now, I do not know what will be my plan. My previous goal was V38, so that I could have a score of 730 with a Q50 or Q51. But I think I should lower the goal, probably to V35-36, although it is still far from where I am now.
Big thanks,
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16 Aug 2015, 12:37
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Hi,
I understand your issue. Hence as I always advocate, this exam is always not about skill but its about approaching a problem in a definitive structure.
For example in SC - Every question has its own stem and trust me all of them has mechanical way to solve it. Its tried and tested (GMAT 710 V39 Q49 - my attempt).
in CR - there is an approach how to identify the solution from the problem itself and the passage.
For RC - you need to practice as to how you can comprehend swiftly.
I have incorporated all these skills from Avi, Founder of www.gmat-scholar.com
Try to reach him atleast for a free consultation - Its definately worth it!!! He's always accesible at +91 70640 00130 and can teach you all these tricks.
Best Wishes.
I understand your issue. Hence as I always advocate, this exam is always not about skill but its about approaching a problem in a definitive structure.
For example in SC - Every question has its own stem and trust me all of them has mechanical way to solve it. Its tried and tested (GMAT 710 V39 Q49 - my attempt).
in CR - there is an approach how to identify the solution from the problem itself and the passage.
For RC - you need to practice as to how you can comprehend swiftly.
I have incorporated all these skills from Avi, Founder of www.gmat-scholar.com
Try to reach him atleast for a free consultation - Its definately worth it!!! He's always accesible at +91 70640 00130 and can teach you all these tricks.
Best Wishes.
17 Aug 2015, 10:41
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Reading your post is actually quite scary..you scored V31 five months back..consistently work on Verbal for around five months..and now get V25!
Since you seem to have relied on e-GMAT, I am wondering if you should directly get in touch with them for suggestions. While you are using their material, I am wondering if there is some "trick" that they can tell you to get more bang out of the buck...
Since you seem to have relied on e-GMAT, I am wondering if you should directly get in touch with them for suggestions. While you are using their material, I am wondering if there is some "trick" that they can tell you to get more bang out of the buck...
