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Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent
(E) their many problems had been the recent
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108. Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.
(A) its many problems had been the recent This sounds right(B) its many problems has been the recentlythis is wrong because, the exteded sales alump in women's aparralle acts like a noun clause. We cannot modify a noun or a noun clause with an adverb as in this choice. Secondly the choice has been does not sound right to me because there was a sale slump before the problem and therefore, this choice does not properly establish the sequence of events events.C) its many problems is the recently This must be eliminated
(D) their many problems is the recent this must be eliminated
(E) their many problems had been the recent. this must be eliminated

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30 May 2006, 05:53
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karlfurt wrote:
I ve still trouble with this 2 years old post!

I agree with the tense, but my problem concerns "its".
Normally the pronoun IT refers to non-humans and HE, to human beings.

Thus, i didn't choose A, but E, which is wrong.

Can someone please explain me why ITS instead of HIS, is correct?
Many thanks

you are correct. "the seven stor retailor" is not a person rather its a retail company name.

Thanks, Professor. But....

Hereby the correct CR, (E) contains THEIR instead of ITS(see below). But it doesn't change much what I want to point out.

Assuming that retailer is a company name, I think it is still not correct.
I've replaced retailer with a famous brand, and it sounds strange. In that case, should (E) not be the best of the worse answers?

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, COCA-COLA said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.
(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent
(E) their many problems had been the recent

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now where you see the problem? i donot see any. its correct....

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer (COCA-COLA) said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

Until now, I didn't know that human attributes can be given to things.

I never read in the business press, that a company could report and talk. I would rather say, "the (CEO or spokesman) of Coca said...".

I was probably wrong. Since I started to study the gmat, I have an over-tendency to analyse details.

Well there are a few more examples of this type where inanimate things can be given attributes of animate things:

One example is given below:

Upset by the recent downturn in production numbers during the first half of the year, the possibility of adding worker incentives was raised by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting.
(A) the possibility of adding worker incentives was raised by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting
(B) the addition of worker incentives was raised as a possibility by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting
(C) added worker incentives was raised by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting as a possibility
(D) the board of directors raised at its quarterly meeting the possibility of worker incentives being added
(E) the board of directors, at its quarterly meeting, raised the possibility of adding worker incentives

And in E "its" is used for "Board of Directors" that was Upset and raised the possibility of adding worker incentives.

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What I do know for sure is that there are two usages for the past participle:
1) either as an adjective to describe its attached noun (notice how I just used the word "attached" in this sentence).
example:
a) the broken plane is repaired.
Note: both the "broken" and "repaired" are used to describe the noun "plane."

b) The trained police dog.
Note: "trained" is used to describe the noun "dog."

2) The past participle can be used as a verb ONLY when it is constructed in the past perfect construction.
example:
a) I had EATEN when Tom arrived.
this is the past perfect construction that describes a completed action in the past before another action on the past. According to our example, it means that I finished eating in the past before Tom arrive in the past.

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11 May 2008, 07:03
My ans is C.

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women’s apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.
(A) its many problems had been the recent
if we use 'had been' which means the problem no more exists and thus it wouldnt make sense to use 'would start' in the 2nd part of the sentence.
(B) its many problems has been the recently
same reason as option 1.
(C) its many problems is the recently
the problem still exists therefore 'is' should be used.
(D) their many problems is the recent
usage of the pronoun 'their' is incorrect ... retailer stores cannot use pronoun their .. even in the second half of the sentence 'it' replaces the retailer stores
(E) their many problems had been the recent
usage of the pronoun their is incorrect

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Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women’s apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent

Tense should be present or past perfect continues??

Agree with A but why? The issue here is recent. Recent not recently, which changes the meaning, is correct. Lets see:

A: Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent (extended) sales slump in women’s apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

B: Reporting that one of its many problems has been the recently(extended) sales slump in women’s apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

............and so on.

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01 Feb 2010, 19:18
V.40) Reporting that one of its many problems, had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores

A) its many problems had been the recent
C) its many problems is the recently

the correct answer is A...I know what the problem in verb tense is, however, my question is about "recent".
The explanation provided in the book says: the adverb "recently" modifies only the adjective "extended", distorting meaning.

I'm sure if I understand why it should be "recent", not "recently. Isn't it modifying the adjective "extended"?

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14 Mar 2010, 16:53
"Has" refers to something starting in the past and continues now. It could be a candidate for the correction; however, as mentioned, the retailer "said" indicates this sentence is referring to a past event.

"Is" doesn't make sense because it refers only to the present and lacks any temporal component. The slump happened over a period of time and not just now.

"Had" makes sense because the event in the sentence happened in the past and the recently slumping sales happened even further back in the past. "Had" is used to distinguish the timing of two past events (e.g., I had visited to Paris before I left for Greece).

If for example the phrase "retailer says" was used instead of "retailer said" then "has" would be appropriate.

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* Recent is the adjective form; adjective always modify nouns and hence recent modifies extended sale slump (noun form)

Besides that, I think the question is of using "had been" vs "is". With the verb "said" (past tense), "had been" is appropriate since sales slump happened before the retailer said and it happened in the past. So perfect tense is used rather than simple present.

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Ron Purewal of MGMAT addressed this issue on a different forum! Just for everybody's benefit...this is what he exactly said -

"recent" is an adjective; as such, it modifies a noun.

the difference here is meaning-based: if the INTENDED MEANING of the sentence is that the noun itself is recent, then you use "recent" to describe that noun.
on the other hand, if the INTENDED MEANING of the sentence is that an action, adjective, or other adverb is recent, then you should use "recently".

examples: (note that "mastering" a sound recording means to improve the quality of the sound after initially recording it)

* recently mastered recordings
--> here, "recently" is an adverb, and so it modifies "mastered".
therefore, this phrase refers to recordings that have been mastered recently -- regardless of the time at which they were originally recorded. so, for instance, if i have a 1947 recording of arturo toscanini's orchestra that was just mastered last year, then that's a recently mastered recording.

* recent mastered recordings
--> here, "recent" is an adjective, and so it modifies "(mastered) recordings".
therefore, this phrase refers to recent recordings that also happen to have been mastered. so, for instance, the aforementioned toscanini recording would *not* be one of these, because it's not a recent recording.

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Hey
Past perfect formes are used to establish a timeline.
If a sentense contains 2 past tenses, a past perfect is used to denote that one past event occured before the other past event.
For example:
Though I had worked too hard, I did not receive any compensation.
I did not have any money because I had lost my wallet.
The action which is denoted by the past perfect tense MUST be an event which occured BEFORE the action that is denoted by simple past. You cannot have a standalone past perfect in a sentence.
Let me know if you have more doubts about tenses.
http://gmatclub.com/blog/2012/06/gmat-v ... ect-tense/

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i have a clear understanding why had been tense should be used. But really i dont understand is there any problem why recently(adverb) cant modify the verb extended sales slump? or it can modify????

Hi there,

Let's take an example and explain:

Currently the date is Dec 20.
Picture that there is a discount offer going on in a store for Christmas.
Now this discount offer is extended beyond Dec 25 till 31 Dec.
So this becomes extended discount offer.

Now imagine if similar thing happened during Thanksgiving weekend (Nov 22) as well.
The discount offer was initially supposed to be only for 3 days.
But it was extended for 3 more days.
So that was also an extended discount offer.

So if today is Dec 20, then there is one extended discount offer going on right now through Dec 31. This extended sale is recent
But the one that happened in the end of November is not recent anymore.

Hopefully this helps explain why recent and extended are mutually exclusive. One is not dependent on the other. They are both individual adjectives of sales slump.

However, in choice B, you actually make "recently" modify extended, implying that the sales slump was recently extended.

Hope this helps.
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Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

A. its many problems had been the recent
B. its many problems has been the recently
C. its many problems is the recently
D. their many problems is the recent
E. their many problems had been the recent

Can you please explain what is wrong with Options B & C ?
I also want to know how recent extended and recently extended are different?

Hii Umesh.
First understand the meaning of the sentence in question.
Two things are taking place here.
i) The retailer is reporting that he has been facing problems because of the recent extended sales slump.
ii) The retailer said that he would start a three month liquidation sales.
Now, since you to strictly mention the sequence of events, henceforth you have to use had been.
Without this, it would seem that retailer would start a three month liquidation sales and will then report. That will distort the meaning as well as be an illogical choice too.

Recent extended sales slump- It implies that among several extended sales slump, you are more concerned with the recent one. Recent is an adjective and describes the noun-extended sales slump.
Recently extended sales slump-It implies that among several sales slumps, you are more concerned with the recently extend one. Recently is an adverb here and modifies only "extended".

These are the problems with B and C.
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In the current example, we need a word that add more information about 'sales slump'. extended is also an adjective. So, recent is the perfect match in the given example.

For example,
I appeared for the GMAT test recently.
The result of the recent GMAT test appeared by me was surprising.

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IMO A,

1) since the seven retailer is singular, therefore usage of plural their is incorrect. hence option d and e are out.
2) usage of past perfect tense is correct as reporting of problems happened earlier and the retailer's decision of liquidation happened later.

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IMO A,

1) since the seven retailer is singular, therefore usage of plural their is incorrect. hence option d and e are out.
2) usage of past perfect tense is correct as reporting of problems happened earlier and the retailer's decision of liquidation happened later.

I am still unable to understand the use of past perfect tense!
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Obviously you are thinking of the present perfect or simple present tense. If you see deeply, both of them don’t work; a present tense or present perfect is used for something that is still persisting. In this case, the recent slump was extended but the issue is a thing of past now. So to describe it with a present tense or present perfect will be unsuitable. Of course in B, the ‘recently’ is an yet another pin prick
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IMO A,

1) since the seven retailer is singular, therefore usage of plural their is incorrect. hence option d and e are out.
2) usage of past perfect tense is correct as reporting of problems happened earlier and the retailer's decision of liquidation happened later.

decision of liquidation happened later: this decision is happening in present not in past.

For past perfect two comparing even should happen in past time Line.

In our case one event is in past and one in present. Thats my point Boss.
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The recent extended sales slump was in the past; the retailer’s saying was in the past; that the company would start a three-month liquidation was in the modal past; all of these later events are described in past tense, and are not underlined. So we have to take them per se.
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