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Hi Folks,

Does anyone have Ron Purewal notes from Thursdays with Ron sessions or from forums?

It would be a great help if you could share the same.
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here the files .

they regard only verbal part. I do not think there is a quant like part
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get to the download section and do a search....there is one nice pdf version, where all his wisdom has been collated.....along with the set of questions he discusses on "thursday with ron" it is very good.....sorry buddy, I dont remember the original poster though.

btw, my humble suggestion would be to download the sc n cr videos from mgmat....watch particularly " new way of sc " its amazing n wll force u to revisit ur existing approach....logical and easy.

I have taken 4 pvt tutoring sessions from ron....n I can say, the material available in public domain ie thutsdays with ron is equally good.....after u go through that sc video of ron..just follow n apply the learnings on first 50 og problems n u are set.....

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These have been of immense help, especially the videos from the MGMAT website as suggested in the above post. I second of going through these strategies prior to attempting mocks.
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do we have some more PDFs of Ron Purewal Notes..Done reading above pdfs..It will be helpful if we have more. :)
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hello all,
i've been alerted to this page by a student.


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two parallelism files:

these seem to be aggregations of screenshots and/or other content from "thursdays with me". so, yes, this content is mine.

the order of presentation, too, is at least somewhat sensible (...most likely because it mirrors the original order of presentation in "thursdays").


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• SC tips file:
this appears to be a collection of things i wrote on manhattan prep's forum over the years i worked for the company. so, yes, this content is mine.

HOWEVER... even though these little bits and pieces of content are, ultimately, mine...
this document will NOT be useful as a preparatory instrument for the GMAT, for 3 reasons:


1/
the content aggregated in this document is COMPLETELY RANDOM.

the items in the document are not unified/connected by any coherent theme. nor do they illustrate, explain, or reinforce any common idea or principle.


2/
MOST of these items are FAR too specific to be useful "takeaways".
the chance that you'll see THESE EXACT CONSTRUCTIONS again, on test day, is essentially zero.


...and, worst of all,

3/
MOST of these items come from answer choices THAT ALSO CONTAIN OTHER, MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, MUCH MORE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES!

in most of these cases, i was doing my best to indulge a student's curiosity by answering all of his/her questions about that problem/choice, with a clear understanding that these unique, ultra-specific, highly specialized parts of the sentence are the UNIMPORTANT parts.

in other words, the person who compiled this document has CONSISTENTLY chosen to INCLUDE the LEAST important, LEAST useful pieces of the original forum discussions — while THROWING AWAY the PARTS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER!

EXAMPLE:
#16 in the document
("mideast immigrants" is worse; "immigrants from the mideast" is better)

the original problem is here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/mideast-immi ... 75746.html
"mideast immigrants" is in choices A, B, and C.

••ALL•• of those choices also contain FUNDAMENTAL ERRORS in BASIC, ground-level constructions:
—A and B have a nonsense comparison (RATES vs OTHER IMMIGRANT GROUPS);
—E has subject-verb disagreement (the RATES ... EXCEEDS...)
these errors are so basic that you MUST see them first and foremost.

in other words. even THINKING about "mideast immigrants" vs. "immigrants from the mideast" in this problem is a HUGE MISTAKE. if you consider those parts of the choices AT ALL, then your priorities are COMPLETELY BACKWARDS!
...and yet the author of this document included THAT part... and threw away all of the FUNDAMENTALS.

nearly the whole document does the same thing. over and over and over again... extracting THE LEAST IMPORTANT PART of a whole forum discussion, while completely ignoring all the fundamental, heavily tested issues.

there's exactly ONE way in which this document CAN be useful: it shows exactly how you SHOULDN'T study sentence correction.


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• "CR copy" file:

this content is NOT mine.
i do not appreciate this sort of misattribution. please do your due diligence before crediting material to its supposed source, ladies and gentlemen; thank you in advance.

most of this document is fundamentally misguided, in both scope and technique.

by "scope" i mean the same sort of thing as above — again, there's an excessive focus on incredibly specific details that have NO reasonable chance of appearing on test day.

by "technique" i mean that this document just tells you to do things that you straight-up should not do.
e.g., the second page tells you to read CR passages — AND "classify" them as "weak or strong" (what does that even mean??) — BEFORE reading the question stem!
oh heck no.
you should ALWAYS read the question stem FIRST — because you have no idea what you're supposed to DO with the stimulus/passage until you read the stem.
if you follow the directions in this document, you'll waste an ungodly amount of time reading blocks of text without ANY way to determine what's important or why, and without ANY sense of what to DO with that text.
you'll also waste your time doing absurd things like translating "some" and "most" into numerical percentages ... among many, many other utterly non-goal-oriented, time-wasting, intuition-destroying things this document tells you to do.

...no.

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Really spot-on clarification.

I would like to point out that I am NOT the author of the files of course.

Moreover, another side of the story shows us how (even IF all Ron pointed out in his reply is flawless) people do not think critically and study without the usage of a context.

Aside from the fact that having the less useful parts/lessons in the files is the worst scenario.

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Hey RonPurewal

Thanks!! Saved me, some very precious time!

Great coincidence too, i was reading your posts on Manhattan forums & was wondering, if i only i could find a consolidated knowledge bank of your posts & lo and behold, the legend himself spoke!

I guess now i will have to do it the hard way!

Anyway, thanks a million!! for posting such clear & practical explanations for the GMAT prep questions on Manhattan forums.

Enjoy your Sunday!

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Aside from the fact that having the less useful parts/lessons in the files is the worst scenario.


^^ it's well worth noting that GMAT SC is quite clearly DESIGNED to test your ability to PRIORITIZE — and to MAINTAIN FOCUS on the HIGH priorities.

the OFFICIAL sc problems have an uncannily consistent tendency to toss fundamental errors and unique, random bits designed to DISTRACT you into the same answer choices together.
the directive is unmistakable: they're testing whether you can shut out the distractions and stay focused on the MAJOR issues.

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in my old forum posts, i liked to indulge even the most tangential questions, about details that would never possibly appear on the test again.
i answered these questions because... well... i like answering questions.
i also answered these questions because i personally found them interesting and challenging. (quite often, those forum posts represent the first time i had ever thought explicitly about whatever the student was asking about.)

in retrospect, i probably SHOULD have answered all of these highly specific/specialized/unique questions with "let's not discuss those parts; they're there to distract you."
...oh well. (:
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i was reading your posts on Manhattan forums & was wondering, if i only i could find a consolidated knowledge bank of your posts


the main theme of this little discussion, here, is that ]this "bank" — were someone to compile such a thing — would contain VERY LITTLE ACTUAL ••KNOWLEDGE••.
very very little indeed.

in fact, the same idea, more generally, is the single most important unifying directive of this entire exam: to depend AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE on knowledge.


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here the files .

they regard only verbal part. I do not think there is a quant like part



Do these files still help?
I am facing issues with SC so if anyone Bunuel daagh can recommend whether or not I should refer to these files it'll be great !
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Why not? why the doubt?
You should refer. Nobody can give the depth and the width as Ron does More importantly, the concepts he elaborates are down - to- earth and can stand you in goodstead eternally. becuase they sync with the vibe of GMAT.

Go ahead and good luck.
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Why not? why the doubt?
You should refer. Nobody can give the depth and the width as Ron does More importantly, the concepts he elaborates are down - to- earth and can stand you in goodstead eternally. becuase they sync with the vibe of GMAT.

Go ahead and good luck.

daagh thanks for the reply.
If you could assist me a bit about how to go about my verbal preperaton.
I gave the veritas mock yesterday and scored v34 with a majority of my errors being in SC and CR (Assumption)
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But these things don't happen in a day. You have to start from barasstacks and keep going from bottom to top; You need to know the concepts required,assimilate those tenets and above all learn to apply them reflexively in the day-to-day business of GMAT.

Where do you stand vis-a-vis the above strategy?
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But these things don't happen in a day. You have to start from barasstacks and keep going from bottom to top; You need to know the concepts required,assimilate those tenets and above all learn to apply them reflexively in the day-to-day business of GMAT.

Where do you stand vis-a-vis the above strategy?


I am all in for the preparation. I understand that their is no magic theory that can get me my dream score.
I joined a coaching institute but apart from teaching me the very basics, it wasn't very helpful.
I have recently started using the manhattan sc for improving my sc skills. (I am from India) I try and study one chapter and then apply it on questions using the sc forum on GMATCLUB.
I have read through the manhattan cr guide and I try and apply that as well to atleast 10 questions per day.
As for RC , I have started doing 3 questions per day from RC 99.

Quant - I am mostly practicing about 30 ds and ps questions everyday. Reviewing topics whenever I get stuck.

I always time my questions.

The main issue right now with me for sc is that I am unable to apply the concepts learned.
As for RC, fetch questions in parahgraphs that are infomration intensive tends be strenous.
As for CR, as previously mentioned, assumption based question (negation test) is the tough part.


Quant score in my previous mock (veritas) was 49 (with 12 incorrect)
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You mean Quants scaled score was Q49 with 12 incorrect answers? Are Vertas mock tests adaptive?
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You mean Quatns scales was Q49 with 12 incorrect answers? Are Vertas mock tests adaptive?

yes they are.
could you help me with the way forward
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Now is the ripe time that you take private tuition from a good master.
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Now is the ripe time that you take private tuition from a good master.

i want to avoid a huge investment. if you could assist me with something I could do on the self study front
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