Ross ($80K) vs Kellogg 1Y

Question

Hey Guys ! I am juggling between Ross with a substantial scholarship and Kellogg 1Y.

Why Ross:
 1. Scholarship is good 2. Post MBA opportunities are a notch better(Consulting) given the flagship 2Y 3. Ann Arbor may be cheaper.

Why Kellogg:
 1. I already have an MBA from an IIM in India. So don’t want to repeat another year into the degree. 2. Kellogg Network in India is well established, if at all I want to come back to India a few years later. 3. Opportunity cost of attending the program.

I have 8 years of O&G experience and post MBA want to work in renewable energy sector

@bb Can you help ?

idliboba · Answer

I think Ross would be better given the 2Y program. You’d ideally want that internship to make the switch since its both industry and geography. Ann Arbor is however quite expensive for a smaller city (or so I have heard). Just my 2c, but congrats on getting both!

jasmeetsingh0790 · Answer

Can others also help bring perspective

PyjamaScientist · Answer

Hey congrats on two awesome admits. Here’s my two cents- if you’re looking for job opportunities in the US, then the Ross’s 2-year full time program might do you more good than Kellogg’s 1 year program because you get to do a summer internship and the scholarship amount is considerable. However, if you’re sure about staying in energy post MBA, then you may not require summer internship. I, too, came from a 6.5 years O&G experience and pivoted to investment banking from Ross. However, no wrong choices here.

bb · Answer

Weird. I did not get pinged...

Hi  jasmeetsingh0790

If you’re looking to recruit into consulting, it is beneficial to have that summer internship. A lot of the consulting recruiting is through the internship program and if you strike out the first year, you have the second one.

PS. A lot of people recruiting into consulting but only a portion of the class makes it into the MBB’s. So often how comes for Plan B are also important.

What is O&G?

MBAGuide · Answer

Hi jasmeetsingh0790 congrats on the admits

I would also pick Ross because you need that internship footing that comes with being in a two-year MBA in the USA (unless you have prior work experience and connections in the States). Many companies will roll out offers to interns if they do well, especially in consulting. I know it can be very, very hard to push through a second two-year MBA when you have already spent two years getting an Indian MBA, making it four years of your life just getting the MBA tags on your resume! But I guess that’s the price you pay/tradeoff for setting yourself up for success in the USA. If you still want to pick Kellogg 1Y, make sure you have a clear understanding of how your target companies in the renewable energy sector recruit, what the established feeder pipelines are, etc.

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Ross ($80K) vs Kellogg 1Y

Hey Guys ! I am juggling between Ross with a substantial scholarship and Kellogg 1Y.

Why Ross:
1. Scholarship is good 2. Post MBA opportunities are a notch better(Consulting) given the flagship 2Y 3. Ann Arbor may be cheaper.

Why Kellogg:
1. I already have an MBA from an IIM in India. So don’t want to repeat another year into the degree. 2. Kellogg Network in India is well established, if at all I want to come back to India a few years later. 3. Opportunity cost of attending the program.

I have 8 years of O&G experience and post MBA want to work in renewable energy sector

@bb Can you help ?

SarfrazAP · Answer

Well here's a slightly different perspective. Or maybe I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate

But I would go for Kellogg: - You've said you want to work in the renewable energy sector. I'm not sure how many such firms offer internships at Ross. What I mean is that you'll anyway have to do a lot of outside-the-school networking to land such a role. Then might as well do it at Kellogg. - A lot of that 80k scholarship will probably get set off against the higher opportunity cost of attending 2-year program - After IIM (specially if you went to A,B,C), Kellogg seems like a proper upgrade. Ross not so much. All in all, it's a good problem to have. You can't go wrong either way.

jasmeetsingh0790 · Answer

O&G is Oil and Gas. I am already 34Yo, so not really looking at consulting. At the same time, I don't see many fallback options other than Clean Energy since O&G firms in US don't sponsor internationals.

bb · Answer

That's a correct statement - you won't be sponsored. I worked for Chevron as an international through a consulting company but it was not great per se.

Clean energy makes sense. I would start looking at companies that you want to target and see if there is a pattern for where they hire if you can spot. I am guessing there may not be that many companies/opportunities though.... but would start doing your employer research already. If you feel you are not switching industries and don't need that summer internship, sure getting the Kellogg 1-year program can be a good move. Risky though.

jasmeetsingh0790 · Answer

Thanx a lot !

jasmeetsingh0790 · Answer

I am in a fix because I feel the M7 brand will help me in the long run which is to start a business. Can you help me understand if the brand Kellogg will help me in that respect - Getting VCs/Network etc. I am ready to hustle my way in the one year Kellogg MBA if the delta is considerable. me

bb · Answer

I would say that the longer and further away you are from the graduation date, the less power and influence your business school brand has.

This is true for anything, probably your current employers are not gonna be looking at your undergraduate institution and even if you won an Olympic gold medal 10 years ago, nobody’s going to assume that you are still a fantastic runner or swimmer because it was a long time ago and things change It’s just how the human brain works.

But also, you lose connections with your business school and similarly both you and other people who graduated five or 10 years ago I have a much weaker connection to the business school and to each other.

Catalogue will be a fantastic experience and a fantastic network but if you’re planning to count on it five or even three years after you graduate, it will be at 30% percent strength vs the year you graduate.

jasmeetsingh0790 · Answer

This helps a lot! I am just putting down a few questions on the top of my mind. It's difficult when one school is your dream and the other is practical!

1. Is the Kellogg network better than Ross. How will it help me ? Does doing an MBA from Kellogg help me fund my startup in the future ?

2. What is the difference between the two schools if I come back to India ? Is there a difference in perception or network ?

3. Is the only difference between 2Y and 1Y opportunities is in the consulting/IB space ? What are my chances of getting into consulting with 8-9 years of O&G experience at an age of 36 at graduation ?

4. What other opportunities I have except consulting in both 1Y and 2Y?

5. How are the outcomes in Ross this year. I've heard 30% of the batch is without internship. Can someone shed some light on this ?

Ross ($80K) vs Kellogg 1Y

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