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This is a question from Edition 6 of Manhattan SC guide, chapter 10 and problem 2 of Section B Modifiers.
Question and Incorrect version: The principal tried to calm the worried students' parents, as a result of those students fighting at the rally
Corrected version: The principal tried to calm the worried parents of the students who had fought at the rally
My observation is as follows.
I understand the first underline is incorrect.
My concern is with the second underline. As per the explanation provided in the book, 'students' seem to be modifying the present participle 'fighting' in the second underline.
My take on this is that the second underline is still valid. The pronoun 'those' is identifying the students (whose parents are worried) and then phrase 'fighting in the rally' is correctly modifying the noun 'students'.
Please help me in understanding the issue in the second underline.
AndrewN: can you help me here?
This is a question from Edition 6 of Manhattan SC guide, chapter 10 and problem 2 of Section B Modifiers.
Question and Incorrect version: The principal tried to calm the worried students' parents, as a result of those students fighting at the rally
Corrected version: The principal tried to calm the worried parents of the students who had fought at the rally
My observation is as follows.
I understand the first underline is incorrect.
My concern is with the second underline. As per the explanation provided in the book, 'students' seem to be modifying the present participle 'fighting' in the second underline.
My take on this is that the second underline is still valid. The pronoun 'those' is identifying the students (whose parents are worried) and then phrase 'fighting in the rally' is correctly modifying the noun 'students'.
Please help me in understanding the issue in the second underline.
AndrewN: can you help me here?
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18 Dec 2020, 17:18
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I would suggest reviewing the MGMAT book.
Also, I would suggest underlining the text that you refer to since not all of us have a 6th edition SC handy. I happen to have one so I have underlined it.
As to the MGMAT Guide, this a typical attribution/meaning situation. The example is a complex one and there are easier ones out there but it ultimately has to do with who are the parents concerned with - students or students' fighiting or as MGMAT says, students' fight.
This is a typical GMAT trap/mistake that they check for. I have seen these around. Another example of such mistake is misattributing in comparisons such as "I have a bigger ego than John" whereas the correct version would be "I have a bigger ego than John does" as otherwise the comparison is between my ego size and John's size.
Also, I would suggest underlining the text that you refer to since not all of us have a 6th edition SC handy. I happen to have one so I have underlined it.
As to the MGMAT Guide, this a typical attribution/meaning situation. The example is a complex one and there are easier ones out there but it ultimately has to do with who are the parents concerned with - students or students' fighiting or as MGMAT says, students' fight.
This is a typical GMAT trap/mistake that they check for. I have seen these around. Another example of such mistake is misattributing in comparisons such as "I have a bigger ego than John" whereas the correct version would be "I have a bigger ego than John does" as otherwise the comparison is between my ego size and John's size.
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Hello, rafa90. I have been busy with the Verbal end of the 12 Days of Christmas GMAT Competition, so pardon the delay in my response. I agree with what bb has written above. Remember, the GMATTM is less concerned with how a sentence could be interpreted than with how the best sentence should express the vital meaning in a clear and concise manner. Even if you had a single compelling doubt in one of the options, that should help you to steer clear of that answer choice. To be honest, when I laid eyes on the second underlined portion—thank you, bb, for that edit, since I do not have that guide and would have had to figure out the point from the context of the original post—I thought of a possessive students' fighting, as in, their fighting. Such an interpretation forces me to backtrack to the first possessive in the incorrect version, and that is the opposite of what we want to do in a well-constructed sentence. That is, we want our eyes to move forward and our brains to process the information we encounter in tandem. A back-and-forth or seesaw process is inefficient.
Thank you for thinking to ask me your question. I hope that helps.
- Andrew
Thank you for thinking to ask me your question. I hope that helps.
- Andrew
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