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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved

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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved


If x (simple present ) then simple future ( will be ) (certainty) as per the meaning wise.

So options B and C are eliminated.

D. This is almost correct, but here we have major shift , it has to be major cultural shift.
E. many lives can be saved is wrong - it has to be many may be (simple future - possibility) saved.

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Is D wrong because it implies that the shift would be pro smoking?
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what is the difference between "major cultural shift in attitudes" and "major shift in attitudes"?
I choose D because it has straight forward meaning.

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what is the difference between "major cultural shift in attitudes" and "major shift in attitudes"?
I choose D because it has straight forward meaning.

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The difference in the meaning is that a shift in attitude may happen because of a rise in prices as well but a cultural shift in attitudes clearly denotes that the many lives will be saved only if the people develop a cultural aversion to smoking.
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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.
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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.

me too. I see nothing wrong with E.
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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.

me too. I see nothing wrong with E.


Could someone confirm if the following would have been correct?

Several Scottish doctors have claimed that if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved.
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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.

me too. I see nothing wrong with E.


Could someone confirm if the following would have been correct?

Several Scottish doctors have claimed that if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved.


Yes according to me that is starting another new clause so it is appropriate to write in this style.
Correct me if i am wrong.
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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking (Correct)
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved (Starting the sentence after that with if is wrong)
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved (Same as B)
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking (Major cultural shift)
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved (Same as B)

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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking (Correct)
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved (Starting the sentence after that with if is wrong)
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved (Same as B)
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking (Major cultural shift)
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved (Same as B)

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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.


Hi,

IMHO, compared with (A), (E) has a subtle change in meaning. When "will" (in A) is changed to "can" (in E), the level of possibility is decreased. In other words, (A) has a higher level of surety that [thing will happen, not just can happen].

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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.


Hi,

IMHO, compared with (A), (E) has a subtle change in meaning. When "will" (in A) is changed to "can" (in E), the level of possibility is decreased. In other words, (A) has a higher level of surety that [thing will happen, not just can happen].

Hope you find this helpful.

will - 100%
can - possibility .

Logically we can say, for example, If we start a smoking campaign, we can save lives. but not we will save lives.

Or we must always stick to the Question's intention even though the question seems logically a bit flawed ?
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What is wrong with E .
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I find both A and E logical in the question. Can you please explain me why answer is A and not E.


Hi,

IMHO, compared with (A), (E) has a subtle change in meaning. When "will" (in A) is changed to "can" (in E), the level of possibility is decreased. In other words, (A) has a higher level of surety that [thing will happen, not just can happen].

Hope you find this helpful.

will - 100%
can - possibility .

Logically we can say, for example, If we start a smoking campaign, we can save lives. but not we will save lives.

Or we must always stick to the Question's intention even though the question seems logically a bit flawed ?


Hi, I'm glad to see your response :-)
Well I think apart from the mentioned "Several Scottish doctors", we'll never know the actual level of surety. In other words, we cannot conclude that this is logically flawed. Therefore, just stick to its intended meaning.
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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved

Well according to me option B,C and E connects two clauses with a comma but both the clause are dependent clause and we need an independent clause. hence i eliminated option B,C and E.

Between A & D, I selected A.

Correct me if i am wrong ! Any feedback will be appreciated.
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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking

Correct Answer

B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved

Both Action and effect both use future Tense

C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved
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D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved

Eliminating cultural from sentence changes the meaning .



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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved

Well according to me option B,C and E connects two clauses with a comma but both the clause are dependent clause and we need an independent clause. hence i eliminated option B,C and E.

Between A & D, I selected A.

Correct me if i am wrong ! Any feedback will be appreciated.


B,C , E is not a fragment -they are proper sentence .we can use comma between if then ...we can omit "then" also."Then" is optional in conditional statement (search in internet , you will get good blogs on this by our experts (magoosh , manhatten etc)

B and C are wrong because they uses future tense in if part .

A,D and E is grammatically correct..

D is wrong - it misses word "cultural"- so changes meaning.

E also changes the meaning , as it uses "can" in place of "will"

So A is correct answer..
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Several Scottish doctors have claimed that many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking.


A. many lives will be saved if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking
B. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives will be saved
C. if there will be a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives are saved
D. many lives will be saved if there is a major shift in attitudes towards smoking
E. if there is a major cultural shift in attitudes towards smoking, many lives can be saved

Well according to me option B,C and E connects two clauses with a comma but both the clause are dependent clause and we need an independent clause. hence i eliminated option B,C and E.

Between A & D, I selected A.

Correct me if i am wrong ! Any feedback will be appreciated.


Hi kunalsingh1991 ,

Although you got the correct answer, I think your reasoning is not correct.

You said in B,C and E, both the clauses are dependent clauses. This statement is incorrect.

There is a very good explanation given above. Please have a look and let me know in case of any doubt.
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Can we say that 'will be saved' and 'can be saved' mean the same? Will be saved denotes a 100 certainty while can be saved is just tentative and denotes at best a capability. For all that, we cannot say for sure, whether those who can be saved have been even saved. IMO, it makes much difference.
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From this thread of explanation and my explanation, we can attempt this sentence in following way.

B and C are wrong because if clause doesn't include "will/shall or 100% surety words".
D is wrong shift in attitude v/s cultural shift in attitudes. ...we are deviating from main sentence.
Between A and E, A is indicating 100% surety while E is less than 100% surety. Grammatically, both sentence are correct but we have to adhere to meaning of given sentence which is asking for 100% certainty.
A is correct.
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