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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

(A) as varied as
(B) as varied as are
(C) as varied as those of
(D) that are as varied as
(E) that are varied as are



The sentence is not written correctly..
environment should be environmental


>>>> So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environmental and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.


No, "environment" is a noun, not adjective of "resource base". Hence "environment" is alright.

The positive effect is on two things:
1. Environment
2. Natural resource base

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hello expert,
please can you explain the reasoning behind the correct as well as the wrong answers, i was able to eliminate option D and E and at last choose C, i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes ?
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please can you explain the reasoning behind the correct as well as the wrong answers, i was able to eliminate option D and E and at last choose C, i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes ?
need a fast reply..

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B. China, the Netherlands, and Hungary are not varied. Option B implies:
Countries are varied (true). China, the Netherlands, and Hungary are also varied (wrong). (Same reason to eliminate D.)

C. The pronoun "those" does not have an antecedent. If you consider "countries" the antecedent, then "countries of China, etc." does not make sense. "Those" as a relative pronoun is used to create a new copy of a noun in comparison structures (The cars I have are older than those you have; correct). However in option C, the usage of "those" is wrong.

Thus A is correct.


Your second query is not clear ("i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes") - the sentence is talking about both.

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hello expert,
please can you explain the reasoning behind the correct as well as the wrong answers, i was able to eliminate option D and E and at last choose C, i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes ?
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B. China, the Netherlands, and Hungary are not varied. Option B implies:
Countries are varied (true). China, the Netherlands, and Hungary are also varied (wrong). (Same reason to eliminate D.)

C. The pronoun "those" does not have an antecedent. If you consider "countries" the antecedent, then "countries of China, etc." does not make sense. "Those" as a relative pronoun is used to create a new copy of a noun in comparison structures (The cars I have are older than those you have; correct). However in option C, the usage of "those" is wrong.

Thus A is correct.

Your second query is not clear ("i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes") - the sentence is talking about both.



I do not really understand why D is incorrect.. Does "that" not simply specify which kind of country we mean ? countries THAT are as varied as china...

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sayantanc2k wrote:
nks2611 wrote:
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please can you explain the reasoning behind the correct as well as the wrong answers, i was able to eliminate option D and E and at last choose C, i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes ?
need a fast reply..

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B. China, the Netherlands, and Hungary are not varied. Option B implies:
Countries are varied (true). China, the Netherlands, and Hungary are also varied (wrong). (Same reason to eliminate D.)

C. The pronoun "those" does not have an antecedent. If you consider "countries" the antecedent, then "countries of China, etc." does not make sense. "Those" as a relative pronoun is used to create a new copy of a noun in comparison structures (The cars I have are older than those you have; correct). However in option C, the usage of "those" is wrong.

Thus A is correct.

Your second query is not clear ("i am confuse about whether we the sentence is talking about fuels or green taxes") - the sentence is talking about both.



I do not really understand why D is incorrect.. Does "that" not simply specify which kind of country we mean ? countries THAT are as varied as china...


D (like B) COMPARES "countries" with "China, the Netherlands, and Hungary". The implied meaning is:

Countries are varied.
China, Hungary and Netherland are also varied.
Both vary in similar manner.

Hence D (and B) are wrong.

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Could you please explain what is being compared?
Is it the taxes or the countries.
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Could you please explain what is being compared?
Is it the taxes or the countries.
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The point is that "as varied as" does NOT introduce a comparison here. The meaning implied is that the countries vary widely: from China to Hungary. Please refer to these posts:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/so-called-gr ... l#p1806912

https://gmatclub.com/forum/so-called-gr ... l#p1804624

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between A and D,

That should always be followed by a phrase or a clause. In this sentence, to state examples, we can use "as varied as" instead of that structure.

So Option A

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Version Created Via Using C: So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as those of China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

"resource base of countries as varied as those of China" does not make sense, as "those" can only refer to "countries". So this version of the sentence implies that China, The Netherlands, and Hungary possess countries.

In other words this version of the sentence is essentially saying

"the natural resource base of countries as varied as the countries of (i.e. possessed by) China, The Netherlands, and Hungary".
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I also chose C but upon writing it through A reads clearer - sentence says - 'green taxes. .. are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as THOSE OF China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.' --> wordy + 'as those of' would work better with the omission of the word 'countries'. That's why A works best. Though in meaning, variation of a country doesn't seem right. I guess its the best of the worst :/

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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

(A) as varied as
(B) as varied as are
(C) as varied as those of
(D) that are as varied as
(E) that are varied as are


this is terribly hard grammatical situation. I have 2 weapons to attack this question.

from idiomatic perspective.
noun+as ajective as +noun
can be considered an idiom. this pattern is very special and it is good that we consider it an idiom. thinking it an idiom makes us remember the pattern easily and, so, is the most effective way of learning this pattern .

from meaning perspective.

in B and E, "are" appears in the second part of comparison while there is no form of "to be" in the first part. b and e are wrong.
in C, "those" has no logic referent. "those" , if, refer to "countries, it is not logic.

the only problem with D is D is wordy.

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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

This is essentially a comparison question comparing simply countries with countries.

(A) as varied as - best
(B) as varied as are -- We are not comparing how countries vary from some of the cited countries are.
(C) as varied as those of -- wrong comparison between countries and those of some countries.
(D) that are as varied as --- the comparison seems to be between the variedness of countries
(E) that are varied as are-- The comparison is not even complete.

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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

(A) as varied as
(B) as varied as are
(C) as varied as those of
(D) that are as varied as
(E) that are varied as are


this is terribly hard grammatical situation. I have 2 weapons to attack this question.

from idiomatic perspective.
noun+as ajective as +noun
can be considered an idiom. this pattern is very special and it is good that we consider it an idiom. thinking it an idiom makes us remember the pattern easily and, so, is the most effective way of learning this pattern .

from meaning perspective.

in B and E, "are" appears in the second part of comparison while there is no form of "to be" in the first part. b and e are wrong.
in C, "those" has no logic referent. "those" , if, refer to "countries, it is not logic.

the only problem with D is D is wordy.



Hello thangvietnam,

I must say that your analysis is very thorough. So great job there. :thumbup:

However, I would say that usage of that is ambiguous in Choice D because it logically refers to both the environment and natural resource base and countries.

Hence, Choice a is a better answer choice.


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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

(A) as varied as - short and crisp, we should go for this one
(B) as varied as are - as varied as are is wrong obviously
(C) as varied as those of - wordy and awkward construction eliminate straight away
(D) that are as varied as - that here refers to "countries" and should be plural, but "that" is singular, hence wrong.
(E) that are varied as are - same as D
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This question tests 2 concepts: Idiom, and Meaning. Idiomatically, when we make a comparison with “as” we need to use a “double as,” or “as…as.” Only (A), (B), and (C) contain the correct idiom. Now we must carefully examine the Meaning.

Here we are comparing the “positive effect” in various “countries.” Since “China,” “the Netherlands,” and “Hungary” are all countries, the comparison is clear in (A).

Why can’t it be (B) or (C)?

The word “are” in (B) is simply not necessary. It does not make the sentence (1) more grammatically correct, (2) cleaner stylistically, or (3) clearer in terms of meaning. (A) is a better choice because it has no grammar error, is shorter, and already has a crystal-clear meaning.

(C) contains a pronoun error – “those” would logically refer to the “environment and natural resource base” of the countries of China, the Netherlands, and Hungary, but we are comparing the countries to one another NOT their respective environment and natural resource bases. The COUNTRIES themselves are “varied,” not the “bases.” Notice how the inclusion of this pronoun changes the Meaning.
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