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New post 30 Oct 2011, 11:30
I feel A is the wrong option because it compares green taxes with china, whish is not a correct comparison

and i feel answer is C because it compares green taxes of one country to green taxes of china and the word "those of" here does the correct comparison,

Plz correct me if i am wrong
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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or non renewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands and Hungary.

A) As varied as- Correct, as varied as refers to countries correctly.
B) As varied as are- are is redundant
C) As varied as those of- as those of seems to refer to environment and natural resources and not countries.
D) That are as varied as- as is redundant
E) That are varied as are - that...are is not required.
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I answered C, I will be highly thankful if somebody explains why C is not correct...
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Can someone please provide a detailed explanation fro this question. I picked D.
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New post 19 Jun 2013, 23:51
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Can someone please provide a detailed explanation fro this question. I picked D.

I am also with fozzzy, can some one please explain why not D?
what is wrong is using "that are as vaired as"
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fozzzy wrote:
Can someone please provide a detailed explanation fro this question. I picked D.

I am also with fozzzy, can some one please explain why not D?
what is wrong is using "that are as vaired as"




Hi! - I will try to explain why I chose A and why I was absolutely certain that - THAT (Answer D&E) cannot be true.
First, I simpliefied the sentence:

So called green taxes, (....), are having a positive effect on (X) and (Y) of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands and Hungary.

--> X and Y are positively effected by green taxes. OK.
--> X and Y belong to countries as varied as X,Y and Z.

now, if comparing this to: X and Y belong to countries THAT are as varied as X,Y and Z changes the meaning of the sentence. Using THAT ARE before as varied as, describes the countries instead of comparing countries with (not to) other countries.

I hope this will help......

Originally posted by matzetx on 20 Jun 2013, 04:51.
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Hi - The main issue with D is one of 'redundancy' as stated above.

In GMAT - there may be more than one correct gramatical answer - if this is the case then it's about which is the most concise way of saying it.

A is gramatically fine, and also concise, so that is correct.

The extra 2 words in D don't add anything. There is also a potential 'meaning change' in D - here is Ron on another forum explaning it:

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There's a very subtle difference in meaning, although Stacey is correct that the main issue is that of redundancy/wordiness. But consider the difference between these two sentences, which would illustrate the point:
(1) I get mail from cities as far away as Providence.
(2) I get mail from cities that are as far away as Providence.

If I'm in San Francisco, then sentence #2 means, strangely enough, that I get mail from cities that are all exactly 3,082 miles away (the distance from SF to Providence). Sentence #1 implies no such thing.

Similarly, the wrong answer (D) seems to imply that EACH country is somehow as 'varied' as EACH other country. That's not the intended meaning, which is that the SET of countries is varied.


Whether you agree with this or not, the 'redundancy' point alone should suffice for you to pick A over D
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New post 02 Dec 2013, 05:08
A and D are close. D changes the meaning so A. :teleport
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New post 19 Dec 2013, 11:24
I think POE takes most people to a question of A or D

IMO D changes the meaning: the "that" makes it sound as if China, Netherlands, and Hungary are variations of the positive effect on the environment and natural resource base

Therefore A

Also, when taking a first pass at the question, always try to identify what is WRONG with the base form. I couldn't find anything inherently wrong with A so that factors into my consideration
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So-called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environmental and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

A as varied as -> looks correct
B as varied as are -> noun as X as Y
C as varied as those of -> Those is not required as we are comparing countries to countries
D that are as varied as -> that refers to countries and that is introducing a clause which is not required.
E that are varied as are -> noun as X as Y
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New post 26 Dec 2014, 20:51
Between A &D

That is referring to countries. If we use "that" than sentence we merely explain the name of countries in the world; however, if in A (without "that") then we mention names of the countries that possess these properties.
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New post 27 Dec 2014, 02:23
I also thought that the sentence is refering to resources rather than countries hence my answer choice was C.
Please anyone provide a proper answer for eleminating C
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I also thought that the sentence is refering to resources rather than countries hence my answer choice was C.
Please anyone provide a proper answer for eleminating C


Hello Sudheer12

There are two ways to eliminate C.

#1: Meaning.
In C, "those" technically refers to "resource base". Let replace "those" by "resource base" and see:

So-called green taxes are having a positive effect on the environmental and natural resource base of countries as varied as resource base of China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

Let re-read the sentence and you'll see the duplicity. Why we need "of countries"? The revised C should be:
So-called green taxes are having a positive effect on the environmental and natural resource base of China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.
That's it, because you don't compare anything here.

#2: Grammars.
"those" is 100% wrong because "resource base" is SINGULAR. Technically, "those" MUST be replaced by "that".

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I also thought that the sentence is refering to resources rather than countries hence my answer choice was C.

Hi Sudheer, there is no resources present in the sentence; there is only resource base. Hence, the usage of those is anyway incorrect (since those can only refer to plural nouns, while resource base is singular).
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Taking this discussion further, I picked C too.

IMO, the environmental and natural resource base of countries || "those of (names of countries).

It is the plural "environmental and natural resource base" that is compared here. Hence "those" should be correct.

My main concern is why should the countries be compared when logically the "the environmental and natural resource base of countries" are bearing the impact of the "green taxes".

I am missing something crucial.
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Taking this discussion further, I picked C too.

IMO, the environmental and natural resource base of countries || "those of (names of countries).

It is the plural "environmental and natural resource base" that is compared here. Hence "those" should be correct..

Hello Amoy, in the phrase environment and natural resource base, the noun is resource base (singular); environment and natural is just acting as adjective. If this is not immediately clear, perhaps you would have come across phrases such as social and political climate or social and economic climate, all of which are singular for the same reason.

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My main concern is why should the countries be compared when logically the "the environmental and natural resource base of countries" are bearing the impact of the "green taxes"

There is no comparison (at least in a classical sense), since according to the sentence, China, the Netherlands, and Hungary all have same/similar characteristic: positive effect of green taxes.

So, rather than just saying: ...resource base of countries (such) as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary, the sentence is just stressing that these are varied countries: ...resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.
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AmoyV wrote:
Taking this discussion further, I picked C too.

IMO, the environmental and natural resource base of countries || "those of (names of countries).

It is the plural "environmental and natural resource base" that is compared here. Hence "those" should be correct..

Hello Amoy, in the phrase environment and natural resource base, the noun is resource base (singular); environment and natural is just acting as adjective. If this is not immediately clear, perhaps you would have come across phrases such as social and political climate or social and economic climate, all of which are singular for the same reason.

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My main concern is why should the countries be compared when logically the "the environmental and natural resource base of countries" are bearing the impact of the "green taxes"

There is no comparison (at least in a classical sense), since according to the sentence, China, the Netherlands, and Hungary all have same/similar characteristic: positive effect of green taxes.

So, rather than just saying: ...resource base of countries (such) as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary, the sentence is just stressing that these are varied countries: ...resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.



Are you sure the usage of "Environment" is like an adjective here? Because I see environment and Natural Resource base are two nouns combined with parallel marker 'and'.
This implies, we can reconstruct the sentence as :
So called green taxes, <filler>, are having a positive effect on the environment (since parallel) of countries as varied as China, blah blah.
AND
So called green taxes, <filler>, are having a positive effect on the natural resource base (since parallel) of countries as varied as China, blah blah.

Analyzing the question in such a breakup makes it easy to see why Option A is correct and others are wrong.
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Hi vabhs192003, would agree with you. When I scrolled up the thread, some posters have mentioned it as environmental (rather than environment).

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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

(A) as varied as
(B) as varied as are
(C) as varied as those of
(D) that are as varied as
(E) that are varied as are



The sentence is not written correctly..
environment should be environmental


>>>> So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environmental and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.
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So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environment and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.

(A) as varied as
(B) as varied as are
(C) as varied as those of
(D) that are as varied as
(E) that are varied as are



The sentence is not written correctly..
environment should be environmental


>>>> So called green taxes, which exact a price for the use of polluting or nonrenewable fuels, are having a positive effect on the environmental and natural resource base of countries as varied as China, the Netherlands, and Hungary.


No, "environment" is a noun, not adjective of "resource base". Hence "environment" is alright.

The positive effect is on two things:
1. Environment
2. Natural resource base
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