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South Korea and Japan, which have the two most robust capitalist econ

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South Korea and Japan, which have the two most robust capitalist economies in northeastern Asia, have clawed their way back from the brink of financial ruin and now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as larger conglomerates.

A. now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as
B. now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of
C. they take an active role now in the success both of newer, smaller companies, as well as those of
D. take an active role now in the successes of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as those of
E. take an active role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as

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A for me and my explanation is as under:

'Both' could refer to small companies and large conglomerates - but since all the answer choices has 'as well as', small and large companies is not the correct link. However, since 'both is used in all answer choices it must be linking something, the link is 'newer and smaller'. Only answer choices A and D use it correctly...Both X and Y and that eliminates the rest of the choices.

Between A and D, A is concise and uses the format....success of X as well as Y...and hence should be the right answer.

A. now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as - [Seems correct]
B. now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of [both X...as well as that of Y]
C. they take an active role now in the success both of newer, smaller companies, as well as those of [in addition to the error in B, success + those, SV does not agree]
D. take an active role now in the successes of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as those of [SV agrees ie 'successess + those' but fails the test of 'X as well as Y' in using 'X as well as those of Y']
E. take an active role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as [Same as B]
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I am still doubt because as per my understanding both should be accompanied by "and" and not with "as well as".
None of the options has "and" in them.
Can you please explain, if "as well as" is the correct usage.
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South Korea and Japan, which have the two most robust capitalist economies in northeastern Asia, have clawed their way back from the brink of financial ruin and now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as larger conglomerates.

A. now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as
B. now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of
C. they take an active role now in the success both of newer, smaller companies, as well as those of
D. take an active role now in the successes of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as those of
E. take an active role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as


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If you have another subject in the underlined portion of the sentence, it becomes a run-on sentence. Therefore, you don’t want the pronoun they to appear in your final answer; eliminate A and C. The key to the rest of this question is the placement of both. The construction in D is flawed because it’s possible that there are only two newer and smaller companies and that the government supports both of them. Both is also misplaced in E, making the construction not parallel. B sounds a bit awkward, but it is perfectly parallel (the success of…as well as that of); that is a pronoun for success.

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South Korea and Japan, which have the two most robust capitalist economies in northeastern Asia, have clawed their way back from the brink of financial ruin and now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as larger conglomerates.

A. now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as
B. now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of
C. they take an active role now in the success both of newer, smaller companies, as well as those of
D. take an active role now in the successes of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as those of
E. take an active role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as


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If you have another subject in the underlined portion of the sentence, it becomes a run-on sentence. Therefore, you don’t want the pronoun they to appear in your final answer; eliminate A and C. The key to the rest of this question is the placement of both. The construction in D is flawed because it’s possible that there are only two newer and smaller companies and that the government supports both of them. Both is also misplaced in E, making the construction not parallel. B sounds a bit awkward, but it is perfectly parallel (the success of…as well as that of); that is a pronoun for success.

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It doesn't help, how both could be with as weel as?
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I do not see "and" for "both" in choice B. pls, show it to me? thanks
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Hi Experts,

Can you please explain why option B is correct for this instead of option A?
"Both" is followed by and in option A, which I believe is the correct usage.
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SajjadAhmad wrote:
SajjadAhmad wrote:
South Korea and Japan, which have the two most robust capitalist economies in northeastern Asia, have clawed their way back from the brink of financial ruin and now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as larger conglomerates.

A. now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as
B. now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of
C. they take an active role now in the success both of newer, smaller companies, as well as those of
D. take an active role now in the successes of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as those of
E. take an active role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as


Official Explanation

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If you have another subject in the underlined portion of the sentence, it becomes a run-on sentence. Therefore, you don’t want the pronoun they to appear in your final answer; eliminate A and C. The key to the rest of this question is the placement of both. The construction in D is flawed because it’s possible that there are only two newer and smaller companies and that the government supports both of them. Both is also misplaced in E, making the construction not parallel. B sounds a bit awkward, but it is perfectly parallel (the success of…as well as that of); that is a pronoun for success.

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Can you please solve this one?
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Anyone please confirm about ....presence of "both ....and" in the sentence.

Also in "D" if instead of successes we have "success" dr than it would be correct or not?
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Hi Experts,

Can you please explain why option B is correct for this instead of option A?
"Both" is followed by and in option A, which I believe is the correct usage.

A is wrong because phases after both should be equal .
Idiom is both "A" and "B".
In option A "both companies that are newer and smaller" , correct form should have been companies that are both newer and smaller
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SajjadAhmad wrote:
South Korea and Japan, which have the two most robust capitalist economies in northeastern Asia, have clawed their way back from the brink of financial ruin and now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as larger conglomerates.

A. now they take an active role in the success of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as
B. now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of [parallelism, too: both is improperly placed]
C. they take an active role now in the success both of newer, smaller companies, as well as those of
D. take an active role now in the successes of both companies that are newer and smaller as well as those of
E. take an active role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as [that of]

Rakeshtewatia wrote:
Anyone please confirm about ....presence of "both ....and" in the sentence.

Also in "D" if instead of successes we have "success" dr than it would be correct or not?

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Both X as well as Y is unidiomatic.

See, for example, Official Guide 2018 SC #681, which you can find here

That unidiomatic expression shows up in every single answer.

I tried to work with what was left.

None of the answer choices is correct.

B is not parallel.

SajjadAhmad , this question just does not work.
Both . . . . as well as is wrong.

Split #1:
A and C incorrectly insert THEY into a compound predicate

(compound predicate means that the sentence contains
compound verbs = two or more verbs that point to one subject)

If we have a compound predicate?
We do not use a comma. AND we do not repeat the subject in the second predicate.
We should not insert a pronoun in the second predicate.

Correct: Anne and Kim walked to the gym and worked out for an hour.
Wrong: Anne and Kim walked to the gym and they worked out for an hour.

Eliminate A and C

Split #2: confusion
In option D, does BOTH mean that there are TWO smaller, new companies?
Or does BOTH refer to smaller, newer companies AND large conglomerates.

Eliminate D

Split #3: lack of parallelism

B incorrectly puts SUCCESS before BOTH

No parallelism in B

South Korea and Japan . . . now take an active role in the success both of newer, smaller companies as well as that of
Parallelism?

ACTIVE ROLE IN:

the success
BOTH
of smaller, newer companies
AS WELL AS
that of
large conglomerates

IN the success BOTH of X as well as [that of] Y?
No.

Not parallel.
BOTH ruins the parallelism.

I think that this OE is wrong.
See the correct sentence in green typeface, below.

Lack of parallelism in E
E. role now in both the success of newer, smaller companies as well as [that of

role now in
BOTH
the success of newer, smaller companies
AS WELL AS
larger conglomerates

What happened to the success of?
Option E needs to include THAT OF as indicated.
Not parallel.

Conclusion: no answer is correct.

We do have a takeaway:
BOTH and AS WELL AS should not be in the same sentence.


Finding SC questions to post is incredibly difficult.
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I and two colleagues just posted 288 SC questions in Project SC Butler, here

Occasionally we will find a poor quality example.

This phrasing is parallel:
South Korea and Japan . . . now take an active role BOTH in the success of newer, smaller companies and in THAT OF larger conglomerates.


South Korea and Japan . . . now take an active role in the success of newer, smaller companies AS WELL AS in THAT OF larger conglomerates. [no BOTH]

No such option exists.

I am going to archive this question.

All, I hope that analysis helps.
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