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I do not know as MGMAT does not show such details. however it does show CR was around 56-57% in terms of accuracy! Yes when i do CR as standalone I tend to do reasonably well, but in in the mixture, I am unable to get it done as I somehow feel confused in the thick of things!

Since CR is your obvious weakness, you should focus on bringing your CR level to the 40's before doing anything else.
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Thanks HiLine. As already said in the thick of things, I get lost at times that every answer appear close enough while a close look after the test using the usual methods (outlined by PowerScore CR that I used) lets me close in atleast 2 options. However, under examination conditions that i took this in, I am able to perform well on most of the areas except CR :-(! Need to seriously improve on that.
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With critical reasoning, you may find mental / visual diagrams helpful as you piece together the question. For example: https://www.gmatpill.com/criticalreasoni ... Estate.mp4
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Thanks GP.
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Do you think practicing LSAT CR in addition would be of any help? If so how to buy these e-book or online versions of LSAT CR?

In this test that i took from GMATPrep I did find a CR question that had a boldfaced portion but the question was a hybrid between boldface and parallel reasoning!
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Do you think practicing LSAT CR in addition would be of any help? If so how to buy these e-book or online versions of LSAT CR?

In this test that i took from GMATPrep I did find a CR question that had a boldfaced portion but the question was a hybrid between boldface and parallel reasoning!

Your issue is the lack of a consistent approach to CR questions, not a lack of difficult questions to practice. You don't need to master a peculiar type of questions to hit 40. Instead, you should focus on figuring out question types with which you are familiar which make up about 95% of questions. You probably would benefit from having someone help you develop an effective system rather than practicing more with an ineffective approach. It's quality that counts.
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Senthil7, I guess you have figured out that your performance in CR during the tests were not up to the mark even though you are doing quite well during the practice sessions. As you have already gone through the PowerScore CR Bible, I would suggest when you practice CR questions, you try to consciously categorize CR questions as suggested in the book and apply the suggested approach. If you are already doing this then do that in a timely manner. Say, take 10 CR questions and try to answer them within 20 minutes. Please note the time taken for each question and go through every answer explanations in detail giving special attention to questions that you did not answer correctly or took a long time. Irrespective of the answer, check for each question whether the approach taken by you matches with the answer explanation or not. Once you do such practice for quite a few sessions, try to emulate this technique during the exam as well. Try to analyse the answer explanations of every CR question in the first such exam. The problem with GMATPrep is that it does not have the answer explanations. But you can search the questions in this forum for explanation. Thereafter from the second test onward you can search for only incorrect or time taking questions.

For the timing issue, you should try to practice guessing consciously. Do this in your practice exams as well. Try to answer the first 10 questions. Thereafter if you are getting tough questions that are time taking then guess them without wasting too much time and move on. If you have devised a guessing technique then use it in your exam and practice session, otherwise guess whichever seems close enough to you. But do this before you have lost too much time. Please remember you should never be 3 minutes out of your target time for any part. You should note your target times for each 10 question section before you start the exam. Give some buffer to the first part as that is the most important section. Remember, there are 2-3 experimental questions in each 10 question part in actual GMAT and total 9 in quants and 11 in verbal. If the question is too tough to handle then it can be experimental as well. If you figure out in the first minute itself while answering a question that the question is too tough for you and can take even 3 minutes or more, it's ideal to guess, rather than wasting time as it may still be a experimental question. Even if it is not a experimental question, GMAC will not penalize you much as this was a difficult question

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If you figure out in the first minute itself while answering a question that the question is too tough for you and can take even 3 minutes or more, it's ideal to guess, rather than wasting time as it may still be a experimental question.

This is a crucial note. Can you give an example of how you can determine in the first minute whether a CR question can take upward of 3 minutes?
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If you figure out in the first minute itself while answering a question that the question is too tough for you and can take even 3 minutes or more, it's ideal to guess, rather than wasting time as it may still be a experimental question.

This is a crucial note. Can you give an example of how you can determine in the first minute whether a CR question can take upward of 3 minutes?

HiLine, this was not about CR, this was about general strategy around timing as Senthil asked for some guidance there. There is probably 1% chance to find such a CR question, but there is certainly a fair chance for quants and SC if you are doing well.

In my GMAT, I got a probability question where I had no idea which formula to apply (probability was my weak area) and I tried to figure out the combinations manually. After the first minute only I understood that it will take me at least 5 minute to find out all combinations as with my method I was about at the 10% mark. I did some educated guessing and moved on. Similarly in the verbal part somewhere between 15-20 questions, I got a long 3 line SC where almost the whole sentence was underlined. In the first minute I could not find any obvious mistake in the sentence and could not figure out the meaning confidently as it was too convoluted. I just selected option A (the original question as I could not find any obvious mistake) and moved on. I knew it would take at least another 2 minutes for me to solve such a SC from my practice and exam session experience. Even then there was no guarantee that I could have answered it correctly.

So it will vary person to person and according to the situation. If a question is from your weak area and you cannot make anything substantial out of it in the first minute, it would probably be better to make a guess. Similarly, if you are in the question 20 mark in verbal, you are probably running on reserve fuel and if you get a long SC or CR where you don't have any idea about it after the first minute, then it is better to make a guess. You will know from your practice session experience how much time on average you generally take for such a question. If it is around 2 minutes then you know that you need to spend another 2 minutes to find the answer. With the stress of actual GMAT or after spending already 3.5 hours for the exam it may take you even more time and then there is no guarantee that your answer will be correct.

I could certainly see my point might not have been clear earlier. I hope I could make it clear now.
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Today i took up GMATPrep CAT 2 at the same time as my test (9AM), timed, with AWA and IR.
I scored a 730 (Q49 ; V40 ; IR 8). Attaching screenshots.
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Last time i scored a Q50 and V38. From the analysis my performance in terms of number of questions i got 9 incorrect in Quant in both the tests but scored a 50 in first CAT and now scored 49 probably due to the algorithm's logic.
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In the first CAT I scored V38 with 13 incorrect but a V40 with only 9 incorrect (in spite of getting 4 more correct than previous attempt the scored went up to only 40.
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A little less than 30 days to go by when I plan to take up the remaining 4 GMATPrep CATs - Exam Pack 1 and Exam Pack 2.
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Hoping to continue my usual practice with GMATClub Tests, Advanced MGMAT Quant (manhattan) and GmatPrep QP.
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For verbal i have just bolstered my daily practice which has improved my speed especially in reading comprehension and I have started to eliminate incorrect answers when I find questions tiring me down. this has helped to an extent so far.
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I realized that verbal intensive practice has helped me in this exam that i scored decently without seeing any repeats. However, I am gunning for Q50/51 for which some more practice is required probably!
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I noticed all the IR questions on GMATPrep CAT 2 were same as those in GMATPrep CAT2. How is this possible?
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Today, I took up the EXAM pack-1 GMAT Test3 in which i scored a dismal 660 (IR6, Q48, V34). I am attaching screenshots for suggestions. As you can see my scaled score in RC is 30 and when i check the incorrect questions, I had answered only 3 incorrectly in RC out of the 12-13 questions I got! Unexplainable! Please help!

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I finished reviewing all my answers

Quant :- of the 13 incorrect, 7 were oversight / very silly errors!

Verbal :- of the 11 incorrect, 4 were oversight / silly errors. Nevertheless, the correlation between number of questions and scaled score of 34 is mind boggling! I secured V38 with 13 incorrect on my first GMATPrep!
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I finished reviewing all my answers

Quant :- of the 13 incorrect, 7 were oversight / very silly errors!

Verbal :- of the 11 incorrect, 4 were oversight / silly errors. Nevertheless, the correlation between number of questions and scaled score of 34 is mind boggling! I secured V38 with 13 incorrect on my first GMATPrep!
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It is not biased. You didn't post how many questions were wrong in the first 10 for both verbal and quant . That may give you a picture. Also accuracy gives only half picture, but ability along with accuracy gives you a complete picture. You may got few difficult questions in the EP1. Again it was decided on your performance in answering the first 10 or 20 questions.


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Quant :- of the 13 incorrect, 7 were oversight / very silly errors!

Verbal :- of the 11 incorrect, 4 were oversight / silly errors. Nevertheless, the correlation between number of questions and scaled score of 34 is mind boggling! I secured V38 with 13 incorrect on my first GMATPrep!
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It is not biased. You didn't post how many questions were wrong in the first 10 for both verbal and quant . That may give you a picture. Also accuracy gives only half picture, but ability along with accuracy gives you a complete picture. You may got few difficult questions in the EP1. Again it was decided on your performance in answering the first 10 or 20 questions.


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First 10 questions of Quant --> 2 incorrect
First 10 questions of verbal --> 3 incorrect
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Detailed break-up as follows
Quant

Questions 1-10 :- 2 Incorrect
Questions 11-20 :- 4 Incorrect
Questions 21-30 :- 3 Incorrect
Questions 31-37 :- 4 Incorrect


Verbal

Questions 1-10 :-3 Incorrect
Questions 11-20:- 3 Incorrect
Questions 21-30:- 3 Incorrect
Questions 31-41:- 2 Incorrect

Of the above,
Critical Reasoning - 4 Incorrect
Sentence Correction - 4 incorrect
Reading Comprehension - 3 Incorrect.
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I just wonder if I just had a bad day as I have never before scored a 660 in any CATs I have taken 1 month after commencing preparation!
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First 10 questions of Quant --> 2 incorrect
First 10 questions of verbal --> 3 incorrect
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Detailed break-up as follows
Quant

Questions 1-10 :- 2 Incorrect
Questions 11-20 :- 4 Incorrect
Questions 21-30 :- 3 Incorrect
Questions 31-37 :- 4 Incorrect


Verbal

Questions 1-10 :-3 Incorrect
Questions 11-20:- 3 Incorrect
Questions 21-30:- 3 Incorrect
Questions 31-41:- 2 Incorrect

Of the above,
Critical Reasoning - 4 Incorrect
Sentence Correction - 4 incorrect
Reading Comprehension - 3 Incorrect.
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I just wonder if I just had a bad day as I have never before scored a 660 in any CATs I have taken 1 month after commencing preparation!

Don't believe in bad days without ruling out other causes. Did you see any repetitive questions when you take the GMAT Prep 1 and 2 exams?
We need to rule out inflated score as well. Also , from the incorrect questions, were there any 2 consecutive wrongs from same sub-section(CR,SC and RC)?
For example : in the verbal part, from 1-10, you answered 3 question wrong. Are they consecutive and do they belong to same sub-section?

If the incorrect questions are at random places, then in this test you were given less difficulty questions. That should explain the paradox.
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First 10 questions of Quant --> 2 incorrect
First 10 questions of verbal --> 3 incorrect
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Detailed break-up as follows
Quant

Questions 1-10 :- 2 Incorrect
Questions 11-20 :- 4 Incorrect
Questions 21-30 :- 3 Incorrect
Questions 31-37 :- 4 Incorrect


Verbal

Questions 1-10 :-3 Incorrect
Questions 11-20:- 3 Incorrect
Questions 21-30:- 3 Incorrect
Questions 31-41:- 2 Incorrect

Of the above,
Critical Reasoning - 4 Incorrect
Sentence Correction - 4 incorrect
Reading Comprehension - 3 Incorrect.
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I just wonder if I just had a bad day as I have never before scored a 660 in any CATs I have taken 1 month after commencing preparation!

Don't believe in bad days without ruling out other causes. Did you see any repetitive questions when you take the GMAT Prep 1 and 2 exams?
We need to rule out inflated score as well. Also , from the incorrect questions, were there any 2 consecutive wrongs from same sub-section(CR,SC and RC)?
For example : in the verbal part, from 1-10, you answered 3 question wrong. Are they consecutive and do they belong to same sub-section?

If the incorrect questions are at random places, then in this test you were given less difficulty questions. That should explain the paradox.

1. The first 3 i got wrong were not consecutive in serial number however all of them were CRs.
2. I just read this post by Shadowfax on a similar concern expressed by another person:
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and it appears that setting a "level" early in the exam is important to maintain it. Getting 3-4 questions wrong in the first 11 or so, according to the above post and many others on this forum, may result in such lower scores in spite of lesser incorrect questions.

3. No I absolutely saw no overlaps between GMATPrep1 and GMATPrep2! Even on timed MGMAT CATs I scored 670 and 700!
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Even yesterday evening I took up a GMATClub Quant CAT scored 49 and immediately practiced a set of 35 questions (CR,SC and RC together) from OG verbal (questions not seen or answered before) and got 85% of them right!
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I did infer that my Q48 could have easily been Q50 had i been a little more careful, a bad habit of hastily reading at times. However, I just wonder what went wrong with verbal!
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1. The first 3 i got wrong were not consecutive in serial number however all of them were CRs.
2. I just read this post by Shadowfax on a similar concern expressed by another person:
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and it appears that setting a "level" early in the exam is important to maintain it. Getting 3-4 questions wrong in the first 11 or so, according to the above post and many others on this forum, may result in such lower scores in spite of lesser incorrect questions.

3. No I absolutely saw no overlaps between GMATPrep1 and GMATPrep2! Even on timed MGMAT CATs I scored 670 and 700!
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Even yesterday evening I took up a GMATClub Quant CAT scored 49 and immediately practiced a set of 35 questions (CR,SC and RC together) from OG verbal (questions not seen or answered before) and got 85% of them right!
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I did infer that my Q48 could have easily been Q50 had i been a little more careful, a bad habit of hastily reading at times. However, I just wonder what went wrong with verbal!
In the RC, you got 3 questions wrong, but the sub-sectional score was less than that of CR and SC. Did you get the complete passage wrong?

Ignore the question. Read the OP of the link you pasted.
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