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Hi,

Can anyone explain Q2. I was stuck between D and E.

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Can anyone explain Q2. I was stuck between D and E.

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Why E is incorrect

According to paragraph 3 "Hot spots, for example the now four year old hot spot near New Guinea which is part of the El Niño cycle, does not count by itself because it might be balanced by cold spots elsewhere". So the author does not say that Hot spots should not be counted, rather it should not be counted by itself, we should also consider other cold spots. For this reason, we can cancel E.

Why D is correct

According to paragraph 3 "Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalization depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth.". So this supports D.

Answer: D
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Could you please explain question 1 and 4 in details?
For question 1, I was hesitating between choice A and B.
For question 4, I was hanging around choice C and D, but I ended up choosing C as it seems to connect a synchronic whole earth measurement over three decades with the diachronic history of ice age cycles. Whereas, choice D only talks about a synchronic whole earth measurement over three decades.

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Take a very commonplace, often discussed and critical topic: Are we detecting a greenhouse effect, and related to this, is it exacerbated by "homogenic factors," i.e., human actions? Most would be inclined to give a positive answer to both of these questions. But, if pushed, what would be the evidence, and how well grounded would it be for such affirmations?

Within scientific communities and associated scientifically informed circles, the answers have to be somewhat more ambiguous, particularly when rigorous questions concerning evidence are raised. Were scientific truth to be a matter of consensus, and some argue that scientific truth often turns out to be just that, then it is clear that there is beginning to be a kind of majority consensus among many earth science practitioners that the temperature of the Earth, particularly of the oceans, is indeed rising and that this is a crucial indicator for a possible greenhouse effect.

Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalization depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth. Hot spots, for example the now four year old hot spot near New Guinea which is part of the El Niño cycle, does not count by itself because it might be balanced by cold spots elsewhere. And the fact of the matter is that "whole earth measurements" are still rare and primitive in the simple sense that we simply do not have enough thermometers out. Secondly, even if we had enough thermometers, a simply synchronic whole earth measurement over three decades is but a blip in the diachronic history of ice age cycles over the last tens of thousands of years. Thirdly, even if we know that the earth is now heating up, has an ever increasing ozone hole, and from this strange weather effects can be predicted, how much of this is due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like? Is it really the case, as Science magazine claimed in l990, "24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin"?

Hi avigutman GMATNinja IanStewart

I have some questions about three sentences in this passage and about the third question that no previous posts addressed. So I decided to write my own post and hope that you could share some thoughts when you have time. :)

1. How should we read this sentence? Thirdly, even if we know that the earth is now heating up, has an ever increasing ozone hole, and from this strange weather effects can be predicted, how much of this is due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like?

I know that this is in the RC section and we do not need to examine the sentences by the same standards in the SC section, but I am really confused about this sentence and thus have trouble with the 3rd question.

even if we know that the earth is now heating up, has an ever increasing ozone hole, and from this strange weather effects can be predicted,

It is clear that the that clause's subject is "the earth," with the first verb "is heating" and the second verb "has," but I am unsure about "from this strange weather effects can be predicted." Does it have its own subject? Does it mean "effects could be predicted from the strange weather (heating up and increasing ozone hole)" ? If yes, why doesn't it just say "the strange weather's effects can be predicted?"

After practicing so many SC questions that require that parallel verbs be connected by "and," I think it is weird if the subject "the earth" has two verbs without proper connection--the sentence should be revised into "the earth is now heating up and has an ever increasing ozone hole," should not it? It is not my intention to criticize the writing in PC passages, but this sentence's structure does make me wonder whether the subject "the earth" is related to the following parts.

Or, does the verb "can be predicted" go with the subject "the earth" as the third verb? But, "the earth can be predicted from this strange weather effects" does not really make sense, not to mention that the singular "this" does not agree with the plural "effects".


2. How is the option (A) correct?
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3. It can be inferred from the passage that

(A) We cannot be certain that strange weather effects are a result of the earth heating up and an ever-increasing ozone hole.
(B) The greenhouse effect is the most widely discussed topic in the scientifically informed circles.
(C) If the temperature of the oceans has ceased to rise at an ever-increasing rate, then the rate of global warming has increased.
(D) Strange weather effects have been shown to be due to the diachronic effects of hydrocarbon burning and not to increases in CFC.
(E) Strange weather effects are caused by the increase use of CFCs, CO2, and similar gasses.

I can see why the other options are incorrect, but I cannot articulate why (A) is correct, because I cannot really understand what "the strange weather effects" refer to. I feel that the "strange weather" refers to the heating up and increasing hole, so I think that there will be no such effects without the two phenomena. Maybe the use of the word "result" is not ideal, but it does not seem very wrong to me. On the other hand, I would definitely pick (A) if it said "we cannot be certain that the strange weather effects are a result of human behavior."


3. How much can we tolerate grammatical issues?

Though I am not fully certain, I feel that the following two sentences both contain some errors that would not be ignored if the sentences appeared in the SC section. I am aware that this is in the RC section, but these errors (or not errors, if I have mistaken them) have made me unable to grasp the author's real meaning. I do think that is an important ability for shorter, tighter and more difficult passages.

a. In the end of the first paragraph:
But, if pushed, what would be the evidence, and how well grounded would it be for such affirmations?

->What is being pushed here? the evidence? or the most people in the preceding sentence?

b. In the end of the second paragraph:
Were scientific truth to be a matter of consensus, and some argue that scientific truth often turns out to be just that, then it is clear that there is beginning to be a kind of majority consensus among many earth science practitioners that the temperature of the Earth, particularly of the oceans, is indeed rising and that this is a crucial indicator for a possible greenhouse effect.
->This sentence is in the conditional tone. "Were" should go with "would" to indicate that the author thinks it is an unlikely case. But, "would" is missed in this sentence. Does the author still think that this is an unlikely case?

Sorry experts that my questions are a bit long.
Usually RC passages do not confuse me so much and I avoid asking grammar-related questions in the RC section. But since I have difficulty understanding the option (A) in the 3rd question, I hope to enhance my reading ability. Thank you for helping me learn. :)
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The author argues that three decades is just a blip, and not long enough to detect significant changes in weather patterns.

But how long IS long enough to detect significant changes? 50 years? 100 years?

What if you actually only need 20 years? If that's the case, then the author's argument has a hole: three decades of data actually WOULD be enough. So proving that the mean number of years required to detect significant changes in weather patterns is GREATER than thirty would strengthen the author's position.

For more on question 4, check out the second half of this post: https://gmatclub.com/forum/take-a-very-commonplace-often-discussed-and-critical-topic-are-we-de-108340.html#p3011941.
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The author argues that three decades is just a blip, and not long enough to detect significant changes in weather patterns.

But how long IS long enough to detect significant changes? 50 years? 100 years?

What if you actually only need 20 years? If that's the case, then the author's argument has a hole: three decades of data actually WOULD be enough. So proving that the mean number of years required to detect significant changes in weather patterns is GREATER than thirty would strengthen the author's position.

For more on question 4, check out the second half of this post: https://gmatclub.com/forum/take-a-very-commonplace-often-discussed-and-critical-topic-are-we-de-108340.html#p3011941.



What is going on with question two, A answer., there appears to be a grammatical mistake here and it should not say encouraging

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Question 2, choice (A) is actually taken directly from the final sentence of the passage. It's a bit confusing, but it's grammatically okay.

In the phrase "24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin", "greenhouse encouraging" modifies the gases. (It probably would have been clearer to write "greenhouse-encouraging" with a dash, but the dash is not strictly required.) And "homogenic" modifies "origin" -- so there's no issue with that either.

Here's how the structure of (A) compares to the structure of a similar sentence:

  • "Nearly half / of Guatemala's 15 million inhabitants / are of Mayan descent."
  • "24% / of greenhouse encouraging gases / are of homogenic origin."

Both are completely fine.
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For question - 1

Since it is written " Take a very commonplace, often discussed and critical topic " - I thought that the entire purpose of greenhouse effect is just to act as an example and the main point which author wants to convey is something related to scientific community only , hence marked option A
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Hi GMATNinja

For question-1, could you please explain why option D is wrong?

My reasoning is that para-2 talks about scientists and then the author challenges scientists' opinion/view in para-3 through the line "Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalisation depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth....". He then evaluates three conditions by finally casting a doubt on green house effect happening due to humans. Overall, he seems like he is asking scientists to give him a solid evidence to show that human actions cause green house effect.

Please help me with the reason to eliminate option D.



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To answer broad questions like question 1, start by breaking down the passage as a whole. Why did the author write each paragraph?

Paragraph 1: the author poses a question.

  • What and how strong is the evidence for the greenhouse effect, and for human involvement in the greenhouse effect?

Paragraph 2: the author introduces the opinion of the scientific community

  • The community's opinion is "somewhat ambiguous," but consensus is building that there is a greenhouse effect.

Paragraph 3: The author evaluates the evidence for the greenhouse effect.

From the above, we can see that the author is primarily interested in discussing the strength of the evidence for the greenhouse effect/human involvement in the greenhouse effect.

With that in mind, here's (A):
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(A) Whether scientific truths are simply a matter of consensus
Consensus is mentioned in the second paragraph, but only to explain the scientific community's opinion on the greenhouse effect. So (A) really doesn't capture the author's primary interest -- instead, it is just a small point that the author considers before moving onto the stuff that he/she finds more interesting.

(A) is out.

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(B) Determining how well established the greenhouse effect is and to what degree it is worsened by human actions
This aligns nicely with our passage breakdown. The author evaluates the evidence pertaining to the greenhouse effect/human involvement in the greenhouse effect.

(B) is the correct answer to question 1.
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Hi experts KarishmaB GMATNinja

In question-2, could you pls explain why option D is correct?

According to paragraph 3 "Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalisation depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth."

I understand that above lines say that "accurate measurements" are important but they also need to do it for "whole earth" and not samples.

In the question, option D doesn't mention whether oceanic temperatures are for whole earth or not. How can we infer that "accurate measurements" is the ONLY condition required?

Please let me know where I am going wrong here.
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2. The author of the passage would be most likely to agree with which of the following statements about the greenhouse effect?

(A) 24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin.
(B) There is a greenhouse effect that is exacerbated by homogenic factors.
(C) The ozone hole is increasing due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like.
(D) One can determine if mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades only if measurements of ocean temperatures are precise.
(E) Hot spots, such as the El Niño cycle, should not be counted as a factor in the greenhouse effect.



(A) 24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin.

Given: Is it really the case, as Science magazine claimed in l990, "24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin"?
The author is questioning this. He is not sure whether this is correct.

(B) There is a greenhouse effect that is exacerbated by homogenic factors.

Look at the first paragraph:
Are we detecting a greenhouse effect, and related to this, is it exacerbated by "homogenic factors," i.e., human actions? Most would be inclined to give a positive answer to both of these questions. But, if pushed, what would be the evidence, and how well grounded would it be for such affirmations?

He questions whether we have evidence that homogenize factors are exacerbating greenhouse effect. So again he doesn't hold this opinion.

(C) The ozone hole is increasing due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like.

Look at the last paragraph: Thirdly, even if we know that the earth is now heating up, has an ever increasing ozone hole, and from this strange weather effects can be predicted, how much of this is due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like?

Again he is questioning this.

(D) One can determine if mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades only if measurements of ocean temperatures are precise.

This statement can be restated as: Precise measurements of ocean temperatures are required to determine whether mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades

Third paragraph: Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalization depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth.

He says that whether mean oceanic temperatures have risen depends on how accurate measurements are. Hence if measurements are not accurate then this claim cannot be made.
Hence (D) works.

(E) Hot spots, such as the El Niño cycle, should not be counted as a factor in the greenhouse effect.

Third paragraph: Hot spots, for example the now four year old hot spot near New Guinea which is part of the El Niño cycle, does not count by itself because it might be balanced by cold spots elsewhere.

He says El Niño BY ITSELF does not indicate global warming because it may be balanced off somewhere. So we need to know whether it is balanced off. If it is not balanced off by a cold spot, then it could indicate global warming. Hence this option is not correct.

Answer (D)
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Thanks KarishmaB for your detailed answer.

(D) One can determine if mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades only if measurements of ocean temperatures are precise.

I think I read the option D as X (measurements of ocean temperatures are precise) is the only condition required for Y (mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades) to happen whereas the real meaning of this option is that X is just necessary for Y.

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2. The author of the passage would be most likely to agree with which of the following statements about the greenhouse effect?

(A) 24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin.
(B) There is a greenhouse effect that is exacerbated by homogenic factors.
(C) The ozone hole is increasing due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like.
(D) One can determine if mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades only if measurements of ocean temperatures are precise.
(E) Hot spots, such as the El Niño cycle, should not be counted as a factor in the greenhouse effect.



(A) 24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin.

Given: Is it really the case, as Science magazine claimed in l990, "24% of greenhouse encouraging gases are of homogenic origin"?
The author is questioning this. He is not sure whether this is correct.

(B) There is a greenhouse effect that is exacerbated by homogenic factors.

Look at the first paragraph:
Are we detecting a greenhouse effect, and related to this, is it exacerbated by "homogenic factors," i.e., human actions? Most would be inclined to give a positive answer to both of these questions. But, if pushed, what would be the evidence, and how well grounded would it be for such affirmations?

He questions whether we have evidence that homogenize factors are exacerbating greenhouse effect. So again he doesn't hold this opinion.

(C) The ozone hole is increasing due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like.

Look at the last paragraph: Thirdly, even if we know that the earth is now heating up, has an ever increasing ozone hole, and from this strange weather effects can be predicted, how much of this is due to homogenic factors, such as CFCs, CO2 increases, hydrocarbon burning, and the like?

Again he is questioning this.

(D) One can determine if mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades only if measurements of ocean temperatures are precise.

This statement can be restated as: Precise measurements of ocean temperatures are required to determine whether mean oceanic temperatures have risen globally in the last several decades

Third paragraph: Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalization depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth.

He says that whether mean oceanic temperatures have risen depends on how accurate measurements are. Hence if measurements are not accurate then this claim cannot be made.
Hence (D) works.

(E) Hot spots, such as the El Niño cycle, should not be counted as a factor in the greenhouse effect.

Third paragraph: Hot spots, for example the now four year old hot spot near New Guinea which is part of the El Niño cycle, does not count by itself because it might be balanced by cold spots elsewhere.

He says El Niño BY ITSELF does not indicate global warming because it may be balanced off somewhere. So we need to know whether it is balanced off. If it is not balanced off by a cold spot, then it could indicate global warming. Hence this option is not correct.

Answer (D)
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For question-1, could you please explain why option D is wrong?

My reasoning is that para-2 talks about scientists and then the author challenges scientists' opinion/view in para-3 through the line "Most of these scientists admit that the mean oceanic temperature has risen globally in the last several decades. But this generalisation depends upon how accurate measurements may be, not just for samples, but also for the whole Earth....". He then evaluates three conditions by finally casting a doubt on green house effect happening due to humans. Overall, he seems like he is asking scientists to give him a solid evidence to show that human actions cause green house effect.

Please help me with the reason to eliminate option D.
Check out the first sentence of the second paragraph: "Within scientific communities and associated scientifically informed circles, the answers have to be somewhat more ambiguous."

In other words, most scientists would likely NOT be inclined to give a positive answer to the question of whether there is a greenhouse effect and if it is worsened by human actions. Most scientists would likely respond, "Maybe?" instead of "Yes!".

The author isn't really interested in WHETHER most scientists would give a positive answer. Instead, the author takes it as a matter of fact that they would likely NOT give a positive answer. The author is not interested in exploring that point, so (D) is out.

Here's more on Question 1 for anyone else who missed it: https://gmatclub.com/forum/take-a-very- ... l#p3011941.
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