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jaynayak wrote:
The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.


(A) it will try

(B) that it tried

(C) it had tried

(D) it would have tried

(E) that it would try


This question is part of the GMAT Club Sentence Correction : Verb Tense Revision Project.


Concepts tested here: Tenses + Parallelism

• Any elements linked by a conjunction ("and" in this case) must be parallel.
• "would + base form of verb" ("try" in this case) is used to refer to a future action from a point of time in the past.
• The simple future tense is used to refer to actions that will take place in the future.
• The simple past tense is used to refer to actions that concluded in the past.
• The past perfect tense (marked by the use of helping verb "had") is used when a sentence contains two actions in the past; the helping verb "had" is used with the action in the "greater past".
• For referring to a hypothetical past event and its probable outcome, the preferred method is to express the hypothetical event in the past perfect tense (marked by the use of the helping verb “had”), and express the probable outcome in the “would + have + past participle (“verb+ed”- “challenged” in this sentence)” construction.

A: Trap. This answer choice uses "will + base form of verb" to refer to a future action from a point of time in the past; remember, "would + base form of verb" is used to refer to a future action from a point of time in the past. Further, Option A fails to maintain parallelism between "that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food" and "it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future"; remember, any elements linked by a conjunction ("and" in this case) must be parallel.

B: This answer choice incorrectly uses the simple past tense verb "tried" to refer to an action that will take place in the future; remember, the simple future tense is used to refer to actions that will take place in the future, and the simple past tense is used to refer to actions that concluded in the past.

C: This answer choice incorrectly uses the past perfect tense verb "had tried" to refer to an action that will take place in the future; remember, the simple future tense is used to refer to actions that will take place in the future, and the past perfect tense (marked by the use of helping verb "had") is used when a sentence contains two actions in the past; the helping verb "had" is used with the action in the "greater past". Further, Option C fails to maintain parallelism between "that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food" and "it had tried to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future"; remember, any elements linked by a conjunction ("and" in this case) must be parallel.

D: This answer choice incorrectly uses the construction "would + have + past participle ("tried" in this case)" to refer to an action that will take place in the future; remember, the simple future tense is used to refer to actions that will take place in the future and "would + have + past participle" is the preferred construction for referring to the probable result of a hypothetical past action. Further, Option D fails to maintain parallelism between "that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food" and "it would have tried to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future"; remember, any elements linked by a conjunction ("and" in this case) must be parallel.

E: Correct. This answer choice correctly uses the simple future tense verb "would try" to refer to an action that will take place in the future. Further, Option E uses the "would + base form of verb ("try" in this case)" construction to refer to a future action from a point of time in the past. Additionally, Option E maintains parallelism between "that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food" and "that it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future".

Hence, E is the best answer choice.

To understand the concept of "Simple Tenses" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~2 minutes):



To understand the concept of "Past Perfect Tense" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~2 minutes):



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Past statements with future implication(s) always takes the modal (could/would) form.

The second "that" isn't necessary here because "it" clearly refers to the same commissioner's statement on behalf of the government.
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I feel "E" is the correct answer.
The sentence says health commissioner was quoting whatever the govt had said.

So, from the elementary school grammar, when i want to quote something said by others, the origianl senstence remains the same.
Eg : She said "I will not do the homework".

If the above sentence should be written without quotes, we say.

She said that she would not do the homework.

When quotes are removed, simple present/future tense becomes simple past and
simple past will become past perfect.

Same applies here too.

If we are quoting commissioners exact words, sentence will be as below:
The health commissioner said "The govt implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future"

But if i want to say what the commissioner said, i'll say it as below
The health commissioner said that the govt had implemented and that it would try to prevent
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I will go with E.

When there is a simple prediction about the future, we use "will"
With predictions about the future that have been made in the past, we use “would”

example:
Correct: Sam said that he would do his homework by saturday only if he is allowed to play on sunday.
Incorrect: Sam said that he will do his homework by saturday only if he is allowed to play on sunday.
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E it is.

We need 'would' because the sentence is written in the past about the future. Also the sentence is parallel with....The health commissioner said that the government.......and that it....

The below should help.

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OA is E

"despite" is not a conjunction. "And" is a conjunction. "And" also indicates that parallelism is required.

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and it would try to prevent the outbreak from reccurring in the future.

The health commissioner said that X [a clause] and (that) Y (another clause).

Both clauses are things that the health commissioner said. Further, both clauses start with nouns - in particular, nouns that are the subjects of their respective clauses. Finally, the subject "it" in the second parallel clause is referring to the subject "government" in the first parallel clause. (It's not 100% required for the pronoun to refer specifically to the subject in the first clause, but when it does, that's extra-nice parallelism. :)
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The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, [that] it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

In this statement is the usage of "that" necessary?
Can't "that" be counted across parallel elements?

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The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, [that] it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

In this statement is the usage of "that" necessary?
Can't "that" be counted across parallel elements?

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Dear qwerty12321,
That's a great question, and I am happy to help. :-)

Technically, according to the rules of Parallelism, the first "that" could be construed as "outside" the parallelism, so it would cover both clauses, and we wouldn't need the second "that." Technically, this is correct, according to the once-outside-twice-inside rule. See:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-paral ... ce-inside/

BUT, in practice, "that" clauses are big bulky things, and for clarity of the sentence, most sophisticated writers, including the folks at GMAC, always repeat the second "that" for overall clarity. Even though, by the rules of Parallelism, we don't have to repeat the "that," in practice the GMAT always does, so for GMAT purposes, essentially it is a rule that we need to repeat the word "that."

Does this make sense?
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Hi,

As the 'the health commissioner said' is in the past, we need the 'would' to specify the event which was in future at that point of time.
Basically, when reporting verb is in the past , conditional is required.

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This question is part of the GMAT Club Sentence Correction : Verb Tense Revision Project.

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

A. it will try

B. that it tried

C. it had tried

D. it would have tried

E. that it would try


The sequence of events is

Implementing strict measures---->The health commissioner announced implementation of programme ---->Try to prevent future incidents from recurring

Future / will ( In The past ) = Would


Hence among the given options only option (E) fits in correctly.... :-D
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The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.


(A) it will try

(B) that it tried

(C) it had tried

(D) it would have tried

(E) that it would try


This question is part of the GMAT Club Sentence Correction : Verb Tense Revision Project.


The sentence is in reported speech tone (said) so implemented = had implemented. & will try = would try. Moreover THAT + the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food AND THAT it would try is parallelism. Thus E
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shouldnt E be "and that...."? Otherwise, it is "sb. said that...., that...." It does not sound right.
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shouldnt E be "and that...."? Otherwise, it is "sb. said that...., that...." It does not sound right.
This is the sentence that option E leads to:

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, that it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

There's the and that that you were looking for. :)
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yunbao wrote:
shouldnt E be "and that...."? Otherwise, it is "sb. said that...., that...." It does not sound right.
This is the sentence that option E leads to:

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, that it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

There's the and that that you were looking for. :)





But what about "Comma before that" rule? Isn't it wrong to use "comma" before "that" in GMAT?
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But what about "Comma before that" rule? Isn't it wrong to use "comma" before "that" in GMAT?
There are a couple of things we should look at here:

1. The type of that that you are referring to is one that refers to a noun before it. For example, it's a bad idea to use a comma in the following sentence:

She solved a question, that the other students could not solve.

However, the that in this question ("the commissioner said that") is not one that refers to a noun before it (it is a different type of that).

2. The situation gets a little more complicated when we add modifiers that have commas of their own.

She solved a question, despite being given very little time, that the other students could not solve.

In such situations, we need to associate the commas with the other modifier (despite...) and not with the that. That is, we should look at the sentence like this:

She solved a question, despite being given very little time, that the other students could not solve.
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anusaini wrote:
But what about "Comma before that" rule? Isn't it wrong to use "comma" before "that" in GMAT?
There are a couple of things we should look at here:

1. The type of that that you are referring to is one that refers to a noun before it. For example, it's a bad idea to use a comma in the following sentence:

She solved a question, that the other students could not solve.

However, the that in this question ("the commissioner said that") is not one that refers to a noun before it (it is a different type of that).

2. The situation gets a little more complicated when we add modifiers that have commas of their own.

She solved a question, despite being given very little time, that the other students could not solve.

In such situations, we need to associate the commas with the other modifier (despite...) and not with the that. That is, we should look at the sentence like this:

She solved a question, despite being given very little time, that the other students could not solve.





So basically, if "comma pair" separates out additional or non-essential information then the usage of "comma+ that" is justified, Right?
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Hey guys,

I don't understand why in none of the choices there isn't a comma before "and" since the statement has 2 subjects and 2 verbs connected by a conjunction

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Hey guys,

I don't understand why in none of the choices there isn't a comma before "and" since the statement has 2 subjects and 2 verbs connected by a conjunction
Thank you

It's NOT necessary that since the statement has 2 subjects and 2 verbs, the statements MUST use a comma before the coordinating conjunction.

A comma(,) + one of the F.A.N.B.O.Y.S. is one of the correct ways to connect the 2 ICs (Independent Clauses).

Remember, the clauses need to be independent - A COMPLETE thought which can stand on its OWN.
    Independent clause:
      The Mars Rover tracked the barren lands of the planet, but it was unable to traverse on the uneven terrain. - A COMPLETE thought which can stand on its OWN.
      SV-pair (Subject-Verb):
        The Mars Rover - tracked
        it (The Mars Rover) - was unable
    Dependent clause:
      Although the train was delayed and the signal was green, ... - An INCOMPLETE thought which CANNOT stand on its OWN.
      Even though the above sentence has SV-pair (Subject-Verb), it keeps the reader in transce as we are NOT sure of the COMPLETE informtaion - What exactly happend when the train was delayed?
      SV-pair (Subject-Verb):
        the train - was delayed
        the signal - was green

Similarly, the sentence asserts: The health commissioner said X AND Y.
    X and Y are dependent clauses because they both start with a relative modifier - That (Which, who, whom, that, etc.)
    The usage of a comma before AND will demand an independent clause - a demand which CANNOT be fulfilled by the dependent clause.

xXalaXx, I would suggest that you explore this GMAT SC-link, as it covers many such GMAT-nuances.
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