Continuing the tradition set by bsd_lover and others in the past, I proudly present to you, the 2010 LBS thread. I invite all those applying, or considering applying, to contribute to this thread. Im sure it'll be just as popular, if not more, than the threads from the last 2 years. So throw your names into the hat, ladies n gents, and get ready for one helluva ride !! P.S. Im thinking about keeping this thread exclusive for MBA applicants, and have a separate one for MiF and MiM applicants, as there seemed to be a lot of interest in those programs last year Here is some further info on the school : MBA home page : https://www.london.edu/mba.html Employment report : https://www.london.edu/mba/careerimpact.html Social Clubs : https://www.londonsa.org/dynamic/club_list.php Recommendor forms : https://www.london.edu/assets/documents ... ctions.pdf Mckinsey recruiting at LBS - https://www.mckinsey.com/careers/lbs/home.aspx Ranked #1 school in the WORLD by FT in 2009. Link - https://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolr ... a-rankings LBS 2008 thread can be found here : lbs-r1-roll-call-54115.html LBS 2009 thread can be found here: the-london-business-school-2009-thread-70701.html#p521283 LBS online application can be found here : https://www.london.edu/register/do?actionId=186 Good luck all. Important Dates Round Application Deadline Interview decision sent on Admission decision sent on 1 07 October 2009 06 November 2009 16 December 2009 2 06 January 2010 09 February 2010 25 March 2010 3 03 March 2010 09 April 2010 20 May 2010 4 21 April 2010 28 May 2010 02 July 2010 LBS R1: Applicants =? Tally: Admits: N/A Dings: N/A Waitlist: N/A Admits danek zeayin82 humblewinner vgeri andygee jinbo boofyhairgirl stopper5 zibi1 DoctorManhattan fishoil mbabiden08 Waitlist Evidence gnr646 eowyn foncia wolfie123 s1ap fordfirestone Interview invites Jmoore3 waitinganswers Ding wizardoftheeast wiseguyMBA DrSatisfaction arv afan lianbear alpha_plus_gamma theDream (post interview) LBS R2: Admits quantjock jonatank yangsta8 Trantastic Michiavelli saundyCEC nurkholisoh JoeMa Dogg2012 jasonjason planettelex Waitlist vodkacran Frontline avatar2010 crux mayaS Ari123 madmex82 boeinz 4test1 a11c99 bouh22 lakai777 db66460 eee chainchain pochcc Interview invites claudemarie planettelex JoeMahmah pranavc bwizzle Ding sh0gg0th notsovegetarian (w/int) highhopes09 (w/int) pranaysrinivasan (w/int) isjii2010(w/int) eagleye81200(w/int) undafry(w/int) horrorshow(w/int) IndianGuardian (w/int) classof2012somewhere (w/int) EBSIFounder (w/int) snowinTX (w/int) activerun BLINDSIDE itsmystery bonobocobra rockyb Angelwrath shamil623 sj0509 Lastminute gmattokyo psned11 rishiphadke culesrules prome2 sudeep nitin86 Nonewsisgoodnews guptaji Tally: Admits: N/A Dings: N/A Waitlist: N/A LBS R3: ? applicants aj1545 LBS R4: ? applicants MIA F aval anotherindian danswer poojashetty McNerdy Hussain15 snipertrader zuperman Franklin sharshar84 Salisaaa fernando09 thisisatestgmat88 CharlieChaplin jsonali jimmiejaz satyr2k Michiavelli madmex82 saruba shokks oscar81 alnasl

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Can kudos talk about the funding issues?
I have some savings, and plan to quit work earlier .
So it is difficult to figure out how much I should borrow.
Meanwhile, difficult to choose to borrow from Stafford or HSBC (its current interest rate is extremely low)

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Congratulations to all admitted!! I'm applying for Sep 2010 r2.New on this forum-27/f/Indian/currently in Dubai /4.5 yrs work ex/business process consulting

really like the school,hopefully the attraction is mutual !

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for all applicants: does anyone else find 600 words too limiting for essay 1? How did you deal with that,and answer all the questions asked at the same time? For every aspect-career experiences,why lbs,why now, what and why goals I seem to have material for 1000 words ...EACH! Editing anything out makes it so much weaker...

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Hi,
First, I have to say that this thread and gmatclub on the whole rocks! This is such a great community, that too one with so many LBS admits! Congrats to all of you!

I'm rushing out the app for R2 - my profile is 28/WE of 5 years currently/CorpStrat for Big Media based in Hk

Would appreciate any thoughts on dealing with 2 big issues I have with my app - pretty limited ECAs and less-than-desired career growth as I switched out from boutique consulting into media, and am at the junior level despite the years of WE shown above. These 2 areas I understand would be pretty key for any app - would love to hear your thoughts.

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Hi 4test 1, I have a few thoughts,though by no means consider it expert advice! Am an R2 applicant myself,so I'd leave you to pick out what makes most sense to you.

1) Limited ECs- This is something you cannot do much about right away.I would focus on whatever you have,and show either how you made a difference,or how they somehow helped your career and impact your goals/thinking.

2) Leadership to me is not restricted to "managing people" or titles-if you can show initiatives taken,impact on organization,new ideas proposed and executed you should be fine.Also,I assume your decision to start at an entry level position in Media ties in strongly with your goals,so that should only be an asset,not a problem.

Hope this helps!

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Hi guys, I am new to gmatclub.

In any case, I am also waitlisted. I have been losing massive sleep for the for past 36 hours or so because of this purgatory-like feeling of half in half out dilemma.

I am currently writing this at the airport lounge in Beijing. Heading for London in a few hours to hopefully meet with Ad-coms on drop-in sessions the coming week.
(To make me feel worse, BA is on strike, and the weather in England is total shait)

In addition, thanks for bsd_lover, if the 65-70% conversion rate were true, I can, at least for now, be semi-relieved. However, I must note at the fact that on Business Week MBA forum, there are loads of waitlisters from last app season that didn't fare so well on conversions. There are, if i remembered correctly, only couple conversions (very late I must say, goodbye to scholarships there) and 3 defered-entry pre-admits for MBA2012.

Well, a big congratulation to ADMITS, I finally learned what jealousy means~ To the dingers, keep trying!

my background: Chinese, massive international experience, 38months at time of supposed matriculation @ telecom manufacturing/project management with Fortune 150 corporation. GMAT 740 v40q50. Top 10 Chinese Uni 4.0 GPA Management with Finance. 112 Toefl, fluent American English.

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18 Dec 2009, 05:31

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Hi Foncia, firstly,I think you have a fantastic profile.I;ve been reading threads back to back as well,and Bsd_lover's story may just as a well apply in your case too..though earlier we hope! Good luck and keep hangin' in there.As I said ,you've got a great profile,inspite of low work ex ,so that should really help.

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18 Dec 2009, 08:09

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Comrades,

Just wanted to introduce myself to the London Business School GMATClub thread, extend congratulations to all successful Stage 1 applicants, and wish all the best to those who were either assigned to Wait-lists or unsuccessful in this application. There's always hope!

I've been following this thread for about 7 months (used to follow the previous year's thread before till it concluded) and thought it would be helpful, for myself and for others, to participate in these conversations.

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Congrats to all the R1 admits and good luck to all the R2 applicants!

Doing the WL treadmill in purgatory...Its not a great feeling and I think its going to be a loooong 6 months. Think I shall get thoroughly smashed tonight....

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Everyone, thanks for coming out and sharing. I'm really surprised at the quality of applicants that have been waitlisted and denied.

@DrManhattan I'm presuming you're a R2 applicant ? I've added you to the list.

@Foncia, Wolfie, eowyn and other waitlisters - b-schools admission is a marathon.When you finally get admitted and attend school , you will be all the more stronger for it and the experience will be even sweeter.

@gnr - buddy I really feel for you - you did not deserve this - 2nd time waitlist just shows that you are really close and just need that extra push to get you over the line. Try to find what the extra push is - extra-curricular / leadership / overseas experience and try to demonstrate some of it during the wait.

R2 applicants - observe the high quality of folks who were denied and waitlisted in R1 and note that applications is a tough tough process. Leave nothing to chance. Get that extra polish on the essays and show that extra love for the school. But also realise that luck plays a role in these admits and that being dinged or waitlisted doesn't prove anything in terms of what your true capabilities are.

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Thanks for your encouragement!
I even got encouraged.
Could you please advise what is the living expenses in London during MBA?

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bsd_lover,

I'm actually a successful Stage 1 applicant. I resisted joining GMATClub till I completed all my applications and heard from all my first round schools; however, I have closely followed these threads for months.

I think the best piece of advice (based on my experience in this process) I could offer Stage 2 applicants is that they really need to understand London Business School, and why they want to go there, and that they can eloquently demonstrate this in their application essays. Application essays to top MBA programmes are always important, but I believe this importance is elevated to the level of "critical" when it comes to London Business School's MBA programme.

Do you homework! Be able to talk intelligently about courses you would find interesting, about clubs you would like to join (and this should make sense; for instance, stating an interest in the Korea Club without any professional, cultutal or personal ties to Korea or the Far East would seem, well, silly), and of current students and alumni you have interacted with in exploring the London Business School community, etcetera.

The London Business School essays are somewhat different from the standard fare of top American MBA programme applications. As such, you'll sell yourself very short if you attempt the cut and paste approach that appears to work quite well with other applications.

Finally, do not rest on your oars if and when you become short-listed for an interview. The numbers are hazy, but I believe the post-interview acceptance rate is somewhere between 50% and 70%. While this is not an overwhelmingly pessimistic number, you must realise that your new competition, while smaller, is stronger; the "weaker" (in the eyes of the Admissions Committee) have already been weeded out.

As the Stage 2 lot gears up to polish off their essays and their overall applications, I'd be happy to share any insights as to why I think my approach to the London Business School MBA application got me all the way through the process. I think this thread is an incredibly useful forum!

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18 Dec 2009, 14:48

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thanks bsd_ lover ,just wrapping up essays now..not much time left for the deadline

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Hi DoctorManhattan
I am an R2 applicant and thank you for sharing your insights on LBS application process. I look forward to more insights from you. I think you should write in your profile that you are an LBS admit for the convenience of other members. Where else did you apply to and what was the outcome.

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I also applied to Wharton and Kellogg and was accepted to both (with Kellogg offering generous financial consideration).

I'm always happy to share insights. I realise my previous post contained mostly general recommendations, but I'd be happy to address specific concerns or queries if you've got any.

I'm going to see if I can indicate that I have been admitted to London Business School in my profile.

P.S. It seems that the School brands itself either as "London Business School" or "The School"; it would do to remember this as you finalise your essays.

Good luck!

Ari123

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[quote="DoctorManhattan"]I also applied to Wharton and Kellogg and was accepted to both (with Kellogg offering generous financial consideration).

wow! Congratulations on your triple offers!! Where are you headed and why ? Would you also mind sharing your profile briefly. Thanks.

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DoctorManhattan

I also applied to Wharton and Kellogg and was accepted to both (with Kellogg offering generous financial consideration).

wow! Congratulations on your triple offers!! Where are you headed and why ? Would you also mind sharing your profile briefly. Thanks.

humblewinner,

Thanks for the congratulations! I appreciate it!

I believe I'll ultimately end up accepting the London Business School offer. I've always wanted a global MBA in a really global environment. The other American programmes I applied to are fantastic, but they don't come close to the sort of diversity I crave and would experience in London. Further, I'm not overly keen on excessively large MBA programmes that bear the distinct aura of MBA mass production, and have been convinced that such is not the vibe at London Business School; a close-knit community feeling prevails, so I'm told, which is more in line with my preferences for an MBA programme.

My profile: Male/700 GMAT/3.6 University GPA (American)/Finance Background (~4 years by matriculation in Wall Street Asset Management)/Extensive community involvement in the Greater New York area and during University/Published Author

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Hey DoctorM,

I have been following some of your posts on other forums. I have been admitted too and I really look forward to meeting you in London! Congrats on all your other admissions; it's not easy to turn down Wharton and this is another sign of the strenght of LBS!

As for stage2 applicants, I would like to stress once more the importance of essays. For example, I have been admitted without having a stellar GMAT (710) and with only 2 years of WE by starting date. I am clearly an "outlier" if you look the typical class profile. However, good essays are THE MOST IMPORTANT factor, that can overcome low GMAT, short WE and so on.

As the contents of the essays, here are my advice:
1) Be specific and kind of pushy in telling why you do an MBA and what are your career goals. Do not just say "I'm doing an MBA because it's cool". Always connect the why MBA and why LBS with your career goals.
2) Try to do at your very best the "student club" essays. Concentrate on two clubs, name why you want to join them and cite examples of what they do. Show them that you did a lot of research on the clubs you want to join. Again, it may help to connect the clubs of you choice with your career goals
3) Don't be too formal in your essays. I was very conversational in my essays and in some parts they were "funny" I would say. This is also true when it comes to the interview. Show the guy that you know how to have fun and how to connect with people.

Hope this helps!

However, I have one question. When are the scolarships assigned?

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Hi zib1,congratulations ! Thanks for the inputs.

I'm an R2 applicant,and I'm stuggling with outling my work ex in essay 1.My CV will contain the achievements in various roles so far,and the team work essay will contain leadershipship examples.As such,how should one approach outlining the work ex for the 1st essay? My problems are :
1) relating it to my goals, (as in work ex 1 gave me skill A to help my goal,work ex 2 has given me skill B for goal etc )makes it look weak without the leadership examples,

2) including leadership examples makes it repetitive with the other essay,plus increases word count

3)while building a story around why I chose certain jobs and roles makes it lengthy as then you have to include addtional bits on how it helped..

makes sense? what do you think?

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Be careful; question number 1 asks you for present and past experience, not workexperience. In fact, I used two examples from work and one from extra-curricula activities.

For the rest, I used your 1) approach. I picked up three things from my experience that I believed were critical in achieving my goal. I did not really developed any leadership examples and stuffs like that since, as you already noticed, they are covered on other essays. It was more like; "In position X I achieved the skill Y. I master skill Y and I believe is fundamental in achieving my goal Z."

Cheers!