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Wow! wonderful to see this thread and so many clubbers applying. Please count me in :-)
I had started filling up the application a week back, but not yet completed. Reviewing and re-reviewing the essays... 6 different essays (for the 150 words one, I did write two sections. They mentioned 'experiences' so... but 185 words :oops: )

Deadline is close and one of my referees is vacationing in some beach :cry:
If he gives me the google-map location, I'll travel all the way with a satellite connection to make him fill up the recommendation...
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Aaah you will get that spreadsheet towards the end of the first term (along with a full blown debriefing on how to go about picking those electives). LBS does not work on a bidding system. You just state your preferences about which course you want and when you want to do it. You can start taking electives straight after second term (although the electives available to first year students is limited to only the most popular and useful ones and the ones that you have completed the prerequisites for). Information on the feedback for a particular course from past years is also available in the library so that you can assess which course works for you. It is a little Darwinian in the sense that the courses survive on the basis of demand and if a professor does a poor job, the demand goes down and down every successive year, until the course dies out (or improves)... [truncated]

To follow up on this, do you know how the elective selection criteria works for those who might be interested in spending either the Autumn or Spring term of their second year in an Exchange programme abroad?

For instance, say one does not waive out of any core courses in one's first year, and, therefore become restricted to a maximum of 12 electives in one's second year. Let us assume that over a 3-term second year, the elective course load averages ~ 4 electives each term. Let us further assume that by studying abroad for one term, one is only able to take ~ 8 electives on the London campus. Then:

1) Does the School limit the number of electives it will recognise from an exchange programme abroad? Hypothetically, if one can only take ~ 8 electives on the London campus because one has left London for one term, is one then only permitted to seek recognition for no more than ~ 4 electives completed at an Exchange programme abroad?

2) Irrespective of elecetive limits, does the School accept Exchange electives completed abroad for which the London Business School has no equivalent? For instance, if one were interested in taking, say, a specialised financial seminar course abroad outlining details of the most recent global financial and economic crisis, an elective for which no equivalent appears as an option in the current elective portfolio, would this elective be recognised by the School?

3) Must one select and confirm all electives one plans to take in one's semester abroad with one's academic adviser before starting the Exchange programme, or does the School grant certain flexibility allowing the student to branch out upon arriving on the respective campus abroad?

4) Can one complete a course in an Exchange programme abroad which has an equivalent in the current elective portfolio and use it to satisfy a Concentration requirement? For instance, taking the equivalent of Advanced Financial Statements Analysis in an Excahnge programme, and receiving credit towards the Accounting Concentration requirement just as though one had taken the same course on the London campus?

Apologies if my questions sound technical. I tried to find this information on the website, but could only obtain perfunctory details. Given that only about a third of the student population goes into the Exchange programme, I imagine that a case-by-case evaluation for academic purposes would be favoured over a sweeping set of rules.

Thanks in advance, guys!
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Very well thought out questions DoctorManhattan. To the extent that I dont have all the answers :(

My understanding is that exchange counts for four electives (and lasts for only one term). The one to one relationship between the courses you undertake abroad to courses at LBS (and the impact on your major/concentration) is done on a case by case basis. The school recognises that other programs might have a different structure to LBS courses and that you might have hypothetically taken 8 short subjects in one term abroad, but they equate those 8 short subjects to 4 full LBS electives. Again this is all very subjective and handled on a case by case basis (every exchange school has a dedicated officer dealing with these intricacies). From what I hear, they do a good job of matching courses taken abroad with the relevant concentrations. I am not sure about when does one get to choose the courses they will undertake when they go abroad.

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To follow up on this, do you know ....
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Congratulations to everyone with R1 admit! And many thanks to bsd_lover and other current students for the guidance here. Reading the posts makes me feel like a teenager in love for the first time :wink:

A question on essays.. the word limits are killing me. More than 6 revisions already!
Do you think using the abbreviation LBS is okay? Or should I replace it with 'London Business School'... if it is mentioned at three places, then it is 6 words more :?
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Congratulations to everyone with R1 admit! And many thanks to bsd_lover and other current students for the guidance here. Reading the posts makes me feel like a teenager in love for the first time :wink:

A question on essays.. the word limits are killing me. More than 6 revisions already!
Do you think using the abbreviation LBS is okay? Or should I replace it with 'London Business School'... if it is mentioned at three places, then it is 6 words more :?

gmattokyo,

I avoided using the LBS abbreviation as I felt it was a little too casual; however, at least one person in the BusinessWeek forums has reported referring to the School as LBS in his or her application essays and receiving an admission offer in Stage 1.

In trimming my word count, in each essay, my first reference to the School would be "London Business School", and I would thereafter, within the same essay, refer to it only as "the School." It only saved a handful of words here and there, but as a personal choice, I was determined not to use the LBS abbreviation, although, there is evidence to suggest it is less important than people are led to believe.

If you need to cut down words though, I would advise that you focus your energies throughout the essays, and not centre them solely on the LBS abbreviation conundrum. You'd be surprised how much fat writers lump into their prose at times. :-)

Good luck!
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bsd_lover,

Thanks for your response. I suspected the matter wouldn't be black and white.

It seems that London Business School has a much larger programme core compared to other top programmes I've reviewed in the last few months. However, while its elective portfolio is comparable to, and in some cases more extensive than, elective offerings at other top programmes, London limits one's exposure to those electives a bit more than its peers in the United States do with their electives. Interesting.
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Do I need to carry laptop everyday to classes?
How many textbooks and other materials I need to carry to campus everyday?
For the first year.
I guess my question can be answered by current students.
Thanks in advance!
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Hello Friends, I am fairly new to this club :)

So here are my queries pertaining to LBS program -

- Is second year project usually an extension of internship !!
- Is it safe to assume that round 3 @ LBS is almost an impossible situation for international student ?
- How sanee it is to get a part time job ( i know) say in restaurant or library etc ! Or is some kind of TAship also possible ?

Tanks,
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gmattokyo,

I avoided using the LBS abbreviation as I felt it was a little too casual; however, at least one person in the BusinessWeek forums has reported referring to the School as LBS in his or her application essays and receiving an admission offer in Stage 1.

In trimming my word count, in each essay, my first reference to the School would be "London Business School", and I would thereafter, within the same essay, refer to it only as "the School." It only saved a handful of words here and there, but as a personal choice, I was determined not to use the LBS abbreviation, although, there is evidence to suggest it is less important than people are led to believe.

If you need to cut down words though, I would advise that you focus your energies throughout the essays, and not centre them solely on the LBS abbreviation conundrum. You'd be surprised how much fat writers lump into their prose at times. :-)

Good luck!

Well said -- I am pretty sure I used LBS in my essays, but most of my efforts were indeed spent on removing the wordiness and jargon that I tend to throw into every piece of writing. :) Content first and foremost!
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Do I need to carry laptop everyday to classes?
How many textbooks and other materials I need to carry to campus everyday?
For the first year.
I guess my question can be answered by current students.
Thanks in advance!

It may depend on the laptop and your preferences -- I have a fairly heavy laptop (5 lbs) and never bring it to school (we maybe need it for assignments or in-class case competitions a few times over the whole term). I have never had an issue finding computer workspace on campus for other uses. Others have smaller/lighter laptops and bring them every day. Either way, LBS has a closed laptop policy during class.

Not that many textbooks (for first year at least) -- most of our readings are done with course binders, and the textbooks are used for supplemental reading (or are optional). Each day, you will probably have one or two (maximum three) lecture sessions, so some people only bring the readings for each class out of their respective binders.

Each student is assigned a locker, so binders or other supplies could be stored in there as well.
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Hello Friends, I am fairly new to this club :)

So here are my queries pertaining to LBS program -

- Is second year project usually an extension of internship !!
- Is it safe to assume that round 3 @ LBS is almost an impossible situation for international student ?
- How sanee it is to get a part time job ( i know) say in restaurant or library etc ! Or is some kind of TAship also possible ?

Tanks,

The second-year project is generally unrelated to the internship, but it can be the same organization if you prefer. Some project positions are posted through Career Services (just like internships), but are also found through networking.

In the first year, a part-time job would be difficult. Between classes, projects, networking/career events and social activities, you could be on campus as much as from 8 am to 8 pm. That said, a few people in our class have taken up outside consulting or other part-time professional positions, but only because of the flexible nature of those roles.

In the second year though, you can often structure your electives and classes to last not more than 2-3 days each week, so more people pursue part-time work or extend their second-year project (which is paid) for longer.

Most of the teaching assistant positions we've seen are for Ph.D students and are rare, so not sure MBAs can take advantage of this. However, second-year students can act as school ambassadors, exam supervisors, etc. as part of LBS, but these are casual opportunities and don't pay particularly well.
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To all admits - the facebook group is now up and running :
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Very useful info bsd_lover, thanks to you.
Appreciate the great help you and prashok have been to LBS aspirants on this forum.

About the exchange program, I had a first year student call me up by LBS this week. He mentioned that if you have lived in a country for more than 3 years, you are not eligible for an exchange with a school in that country. Didn't know that before. It is a useful piece of info to know for those who are keen on the exchange programme.
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Congratulations to everyone with R1 admit! And many thanks to bsd_lover and other current students for the guidance here. Reading the posts makes me feel like a teenager in love for the first time :wink:

A question on essays.. the word limits are killing me. More than 6 revisions already!
Do you think using the abbreviation LBS is okay? Or should I replace it with 'London Business School'... if it is mentioned at three places, then it is 6 words more :?

gmattokyo,

I avoided using the LBS abbreviation as I felt it was a little too casual; however, at least one person in the BusinessWeek forums has reported referring to the School as LBS in his or her application essays and receiving an admission offer in Stage 1.

In trimming my word count, in each essay, my first reference to the School would be "London Business School", and I would thereafter, within the same essay, refer to it only as "the School." It only saved a handful of words here and there, but as a personal choice, I was determined not to use the LBS abbreviation, although, there is evidence to suggest it is less important than people are led to believe.

If you need to cut down words though, I would advise that you focus your energies throughout the essays, and not centre them solely on the LBS abbreviation conundrum. You'd be surprised how much fat writers lump into their prose at times. :-)

Good luck!

Thanks DoctorManhattan. I will replace LBS, and try to get the fat out from other places ('fat-reduction' is difficult to do while maintaining the weight :wink: )
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Thanks DoctorManhattan. I will replace LBS, and try to get the fat out from other places ('fat-reduction' is difficult to do while maintaining the weight :wink: )

Just to put an alternative spin on things - I used LBS all over the place. I also know of at least two more folks who used LBS. I just introduced the very first mention of London Business School , added an (LBS) after it and then used LBS consistently throughout the application. I do not thing the ad-com mind too much. They recognize that their word limits are tight and this convention doesn't mean any disrespect, it just helps with the word count. One place I do NOT use LBS is on my CV, where I use the full London Business School title.
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humblewinner that is correct. I forgot to mention this, I apologise. I think it doesn't completely disqualify you, this just means that you can't apply to your native country in R1. If there are slots available you can still exchange to your native country in R2. The whole point of the exchange is to experience something new. For instance I can't transfer to AGSM or to Melbourne Business School, but many Americans go there (and also to University of Cape Town) during the Winter term (its summer in the Southern Hemisphere at that time). -- This information is likely outdated as the handbook containing it is not available anymore.


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Very useful info bsd_lover, thanks to you.
Appreciate the great help you and prashok have been to LBS aspirants on this forum.

About the exchange program, I had a first year student call me up by LBS this week. He mentioned that if you have lived in a country for more than 3 years, you are not eligible for an exchange with a school in that country. Didn't know that before. It is a useful piece of info to know for those who are keen on the exchange programme.
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Hello Guys,

I am still not clear and would appreciate any valuable feedback/ information from the R2 applicants -
- Do we need to send the GMAT score formally to LBS before R2 or a self reported is sufficient ?
- Can recos be submitted upto 1 week after R2 deadline, like it was allowed in R1 or was that option only for R1 and R2 recos must also reach by 6th Jan.

Thanks,
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