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Thanks for the support!

I do think the GMAT has become a tad harder over the last 6 years, especially on the Verbal section.

When I got my 770 back in 2012, there were a few factors at play that helped me score a bit higher--for one, there was no IR section! : ) For another, it was my very first official GMAT after 10 years of tutoring the test, and I was highly motivated to earn a 99% score--I hadn't yet graduated to experimenting with the scoring algorithm and testing out different time-management strategies. Finally, I managed to score my highest ever on Verbal, V48, which usually correlates to just one counted question wrong.

Also, if we're being totally honest here, I must admit that although I am a far better TUTOR at age 38 than at age 32, I may have been a slightly better TEST-TAKER at age 32. I'm no longer in my "GMAT athletic peak," if you will...which is part of why I'm proud of my 750 with Q50 at age 38. Or should I say "GMAThletic peak?" :cool:

I wish I could have verified that 770 from 2012, too, but GMAT Club didn't introduce a score verification feature until over 5 years later, at which time my score had expired. Poor me, I know.

If you score a perfect 800, then you are banned from the test for 5 years, not for life--and GMAT scores are valid for 5 years--so there is no reason why these so-called perfect 800 scoring tutors couldn't retake the test to prove their ability, and then verify their new scores on GMAT Club, as I have done.

-Brian


Hello mcelroytutoring

I believe some (important) questions from reply, were left unanswered.

I dont know the reason, was it a misread or deliberately skipped.

Here it is:

"Yesterday, it was brought to my attention (you being credited as source, later I have read the post), that there suppose to be pool of 1500 questions from Practice Exams 1 & 2 and about 400 for Practice Exams 3 & 4( Exam Pack 1) and I guess another 400 for Practice Exams 5 & 6 (Exam Pack 2).

Now, on mba.com it says that in additional exams there is 90 unique questions in each exam, which do not overlap with the questions in any other GMAT® Official Prep product, so I wonder what about rest of 440(800-360) for all 4 paid tests ? They overlap with questions from where?

Moreover, how many of 1500 from free GMATprep overlap with Exam Packs 1&2 and Question Pack 1 (404 retired questions) as per your research ? "


Of course, I do know how GMAC policy regarding perfect 800 (should) work, but picture was posted from Pearson sheet saying, that particular tutor will not be allowed to schedule test anymore, since they do not see reason for retake, due his high test scores.

However if he sends his name and GMAT ID number to some GMAC email (it was blurred before @) he will be allowed to test once a year, which was understood to be a quite different test than ordinary GMAT, I suppose some research version for tutors.


I can say that we are speaking about ex-Manhattan tutor, don't know should I disclose the name, but I believe many of gmat club members will recognize the story.


Sure it could be fake, which I believe was the point of your initiative for verifying score via Pearson link and birth date.
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I'm not trying to imply anything about any GMAT tutor/coach in particular (in fact there is one tutor on GMAT Club--Marty Murray--who has a verified perfect 800 score), but if I were to work with a GMAT tutor/coach who was claiming a high or perfect GMAT score, then I would definitely ask for the unique Pearson Vue link and DOB just to make sure, before paying for any lessons. You have to wonder why so many prominent GMAT tutors on GMAT Club have chosen NOT to verify their (claimed) scores in this manner--or at least through GMAT Club, which has the added benefit of keeping any personal information private because it is done automatically. (I get around this issue by using my office address instead of my home address.)

As to your other questions, they would be better answered by a GMAC representative. However, all 400ish of the questions in the paid Question Packs (Exams 3-6) should be unique--it's just that you are served only 90 (now 80) unique questions PER TEST. If you keep resetting the software and taking the tests again, then you will continue to see other unique questions.

-Brian

p.s. If the tutor has a green checkmark by their score on the desktop version of GMAT Club (left-hand column below profile picture), then this request becomes less necessary. For example, one tutor I know has a GMAT score of 780 from 2013, but it was over 5 years ago, so it can no longer be verified using the method I described above. However, GMAT Club score verifications are good for life, and he had the opportunity to verify on GMAT Club just before his score expired, so he will be able to keep his green checkmark indefinitely.
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