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amazing! how can you notice stuff like that?? i am getting more desperate about this gmat business by the minute ...
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This is my first post. :)

My answer is A.

To me it seems like the question is asking, did the train travel the distance between the stations in the alotted time of 62 mins.

1. Sufficient because it took him exactly 62 mins.

2. Not sufficient because we don't know which train he took, maybe he took a 7AM train and it got to station S at 8:10.
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Train Scheduled departure Station S Scheduled arrival Station T
X 7:08 (EST) 8:10 (EST)


The table above shows the morning schedule for train X. If Juan took train X on Monday morning, did he arrive at station T on schedule?
1) Juan arrived at station T on Monday morning 1 hour and 2 minutes after he left station S.
2) Juan arrived at his office at 8:30 (EST) on Monday morning, which was 20 minutes after he arrived at station T.
Hi,

nice question!

Using (1),
It mentions only the time of travel taken by Juan. If he started at 7:08 then he would have reached on time.
But time of departure is not given. Thus, Insufficient.

Using (2),
Juan arrived at office at 8:30 and 20 minutes ago he arrived at station, i.e. at 8:10. So, he arrived on time. Sufficient.

Thus, Answer is (B)

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DAILY TRAIN SCHEDULE
Train X
Scheduled Departure Station S at 7:08 (EST)*
Scheduled Arrival Station T at 8:10 (EST)

The table above shows the morning schedule for train X . If Juan took train X on Monday morning, did he arrive at station T on schedule?

(1) Juan arrived at station T on Monday morning 1 hour and 2 minutes after he left station S .

(2) Juan arrived at his office at 8:30 (EST) on Monday morning, which was 20 minutes after he arrived at station T .

B.
From (1) we can not conlude whether the train departed from Station S on schedule.

Old topic that I found , I feel it needs a bit of discussion

We have been able to prove that A is not sufficient , because we cannot assume that the train left Station S on time .
Which is very correct , we shouldn't assume anything, right?

For statement B why are we assuming that Train arrived at station T the same Monday morning that it left station S.
It is highly impractical but not entirely impossible that due to a calamity the train was stuck in between and it took 7 days to repair the tracks and only then the next Monday morning the train arrived at station S,coincidentally at 8:10 EST.

I think we also shouldn't assume that 8:10 Monday arrival at T is the same Monday morning it left S , it could be the next week Monday morning or even after 2 weeks.

No where in Statement B does it say Juan arrived at T the same Monday morning it left S.

Please tell me why is this scenario not possible at all.

I think there is a small scope for argument that B too is insufficient based on the logic above.

I think C would be more accurate , because if Juan arrived at 8:10 at Station T and it took 1 hour 2 minutes then Train arrived at T the same Monday morning it left S .

I vote for C.

Hope others will agree.
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DAILY TRAIN SCHEDULE
Train X
Scheduled Departure Station S at 7:08 (EST)*
Scheduled Arrival Station T at 8:10 (EST)

The table above shows the morning schedule for train X . If Juan took train X on Monday morning, did he arrive at station T on schedule?

(1) Juan arrived at station T on Monday morning 1 hour and 2 minutes after he left station S .

(2) Juan arrived at his office at 8:30 (EST) on Monday morning, which was 20 minutes after he arrived at station T .

B.
From (1) we can not conlude whether the train departed from Station S on schedule.

Old topic that I found , I feel it needs a bit of discussion

We have been able to prove that A is not sufficient , because we cannot assume that the train left Station S on time .
Which is very correct , we shouldn't assume anything, right?

For statement B why are we assuming that Train arrived at station T the same Monday morning that it left station S.
It is highly impractical but not entirely impossible that due to a calamity the train was stuck in between and it took 7 days to repair the tracks and only then the next Monday morning the train arrived at station S,coincidentally at 8:10 EST.

I think we also shouldn't assume that 8:10 Monday arrival at T is the same Monday morning it left S , it could be the next week Monday morning or even after 2 weeks.

No where in Statement B does it say Juan arrived at T the same Monday morning it left S.

Please tell me why is this scenario not possible at all.

I think there is a small scope for argument that B too is insufficient based on the logic above.

I think C would be more accurate , because if Juan arrived at 8:10 at Station T and it took 1 hour 2 minutes then Train arrived at T the same Monday morning it left S .

I vote for C.

Hope others will agree.

The questions asks: "did he arrive at station T on schedule?" We know that Scheduled Arrival at Station T is at 8:10 (EST). From (2) we get that he arrived at Station T at 8:10 (EST). Thus (2) is sufficient.
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DAILY TRAIN SCHEDULE
Train X
Scheduled Departure Station S at 7:08 (EST)*
Scheduled Arrival Station T at 8:10 (EST)

The table above shows the morning schedule for train X . If Juan took train X on Monday morning, did he arrive at station T on schedule?

(1) Juan arrived at station T on Monday morning 1 hour and 2 minutes after he left station S .

(2) Juan arrived at his office at 8:30 (EST) on Monday morning, which was 20 minutes after he arrived at station T .

B.
From (1) we can not conlude whether the train departed from Station S on schedule.

Old topic that I found , I feel it needs a bit of discussion

We have been able to prove that A is not sufficient , because we cannot assume that the train left Station S on time .
Which is very correct , we shouldn't assume anything, right?

For statement B why are we assuming that Train arrived at station T the same Monday morning that it left station S.
It is highly impractical but not entirely impossible that due to a calamity the train was stuck in between and it took 7 days to repair the tracks and only then the next Monday morning the train arrived at station S,coincidentally at 8:10 EST.

I think we also shouldn't assume that 8:10 Monday arrival at T is the same Monday morning it left S , it could be the next week Monday morning or even after 2 weeks.

No where in Statement B does it say Juan arrived at T the same Monday morning it left S.

Please tell me why is this scenario not possible at all.

I think there is a small scope for argument that B too is insufficient based on the logic above.

I think C would be more accurate , because if Juan arrived at 8:10 at Station T and it took 1 hour 2 minutes then Train arrived at T the same Monday morning it left S .

I vote for C.

Hope others will agree.

The questions asks: "did he arrive at station T on schedule?" We know that Scheduled Arrival at Station T is at 8:10 (EST). From (2) we get that he arrived at Station T at 8:10 (EST). Thus (2) is sufficient.

So even if it arrives next Monday morning but at 8 :10 EST then is it still in schedule?

If the train is in schedule all days means the the duration of travel should be same all days, shouldn't it?

A train leaves S at 7:08 EST and arrives at T 8:10 EST same Monday morning and a train leaves S at 7:08 EST Monday morning and arrives at T at 8:10 EST Next Monday morning , can it be said that these 2 trains have the same schedule?

IF we consider only the time and not the duration then I think B is sufficient but if we want to factor the duration of travel also, then I think we need to know if arrival at T was on same Monday or next week Monday.

Thank you
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Answer: B

In order to get to the correct answer we need to know either of the things, one we departed on time and we arrived on time.

1. say it tool 1hr 2 mins. We do not know whether it arrived @8:10 or @8:12. i.e. it could have departed on time or 2 mins late. Not Sufficient.
2. Sufficient because he must have arrive @8:10.


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DAILY TRAIN SCHEDULE
Train X
Scheduled Departure Station S at 7:08 (EST)*
Scheduled Arrival Station T at 8:10 (EST)

The table above shows the morning schedule for train X . If Juan took train X on Monday morning, did he arrive at station T on schedule?

(1) Juan arrived at station T on Monday morning 1 hour and 2 minutes after he left station S .
(2) Juan arrived at his office at 8:30 (EST) on Monday morning, which was 20 minutes after he arrived at station T .
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