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Being dinged is not pleasant at all, but... life goes on, doesn't it?
On my side, let's see what will happen tomorrow with LBS.
Good luck to everyone guys!! Wish you all the best.
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The ding without interview stings even more as a reapplicant. Hang in there guys. Focus on your other applications.

Congrats to everyone who is still in the race!

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Dinged. Indian Applicant.

Wishing all the very best to everyone out there, may all your dreams come true!! :)

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and this marks the end of the six month journey, from digging deep to finding raw, emotional topics for these essays, to waiting for R1 results in a small rural village in southern china to getting FC-ed and being cursed with a bit of hope, to the unexpectedly difficult waiting period the second time around, to the sweet release of finality today.

and let today mark the beginning of the next phase: i am done with this process.

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Habard Learning School, I read good, I write good, and I talk good enough. Why is there fair and unfari in life of me. So much mor to lern, but yet so far from place where i apply in the school campus.


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Not sure why I found doing this funny and cathartic.
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Dinged...was FC'd from R1. Good luck to everyone!
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To all those dinged, keep in mind that for all its apparent prestige, Harvard Business School is not the best place in the world to spend 2 years of your life. Having interacted with alums and students from numerous schools, I can definitively say that the culture and environment at HBS is not at all friendly or collegial. In fact, it is the complete opposite. If you were to compare HBS' culture to that of places like Tuck, Kellogg, Fuqua, Darden etc, the difference is night and day. The Dean at HBS this week apologized for the sexism at HBS. Some of the things that the New York Times revealed in September last year about the school were truly shocking. Female students and even female profs being bullied, secret societies of wealthy, arrogant narcissists.

Read these NYTIMES articles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/educa ... wanted=all

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/educa ... d=all&_r=0
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Dinged. 2+2 applicant. Oh well life goes on ! Time to start praying for Stanford to give me an interview :)
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Dinged. Still hoping for Wharton or GSB.
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To all those dinged, keep in mind that for all its apparent prestige, Harvard Business School is not the best place in the world to spend 2 years of your life. Having interacted with alums and students from numerous schools, I can definitively say that the culture and environment at HBS is not at all friendly or collegial. In fact, it is the complete opposite. If you were to compare HBS' culture to that of places like Tuck, Kellogg, Fuqua, Darden etc, the difference is night and day. The Dean at HBS this week apologized for the sexism at HBS. Some of the things that the New York Times revealed in September last year about the school were truly shocking. Female students and even female profs being bullied, secret societies of wealthy, arrogant narcissists.

Read these NYTIMES articles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/educa ... wanted=all

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/educa ... d=all&_r=0

Having interacted with many, many alums and students from HBS (and from numerous other schools), I can definitively say that the culture and environment at HBS is extremely friendly and collegial. I've spent a lot of time at HBS and with HBS alums and students since I'm trying to decide between HBS and GSB. I was concerned about the stereotypes at HBS. The people I've interacted with have been incredible. And almost every student I've interacted with has told me they have been blown away by how genuine, down to earth, and nice the students are. The NYT articles were sensationalized. Inequality and gender issues exist throughout the business world... I applaud HBS for being upfront and proactively working for change. This isn't the appropriate forum for a debate, but I had to respond because this comment was incredibly off base and ill-informed.
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To all those dinged, keep in mind that for all its apparent prestige, Harvard Business School is not the best place in the world to spend 2 years of your life. Having interacted with alums and students from numerous schools, I can definitively say that the culture and environment at HBS is not at all friendly or collegial. In fact, it is the complete opposite. If you were to compare HBS' culture to that of places like Tuck, Kellogg, Fuqua, Darden etc, the difference is night and day. The Dean at HBS this week apologized for the sexism at HBS. Some of the things that the New York Times revealed in September last year about the school were truly shocking. Female students and even female profs being bullied, secret societies of wealthy, arrogant narcissists.

Read these NYTIMES articles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/educa ... wanted=all

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/educa ... d=all&_r=0

Come on now...please don't tell me you're drawing any real conclusions from a few NYT hit pieces that obviously had an agenda. If you don't think every business school has a handful of super-wealthy students who take extravagant weekend trips, or that any business environment that's traditionally male-dominated has occasional struggles with gender issues, then you're just plain naive.

For the NYT to make the claim that those wealthy few created a "Mean Girls"-type environment is laughably inaccurate. The main difference here is that HBS has a bulls-eye on its chest due to its name and status, but it's been very open about addressing the gender and cultural issues that have come up. Also, an HBS class is ~3x the size of a Darden/Tuck class, 2x the size of a Fuqua class, and 1.3x the size of a Kellogg class...you think raw numbers might have something to do with the "huge" number of HBS students who supposedly fit into one of these cliques?

Those articles do not describe my two-year HBS experience in any way. I can say with 100% certainty that met 10x more arrogant, selfish ***-holes at the Naval Academy and in the Marine Corps than I did at HBS. I think I can count on two fingers the number of HBS classmates whom I would purposely avoid if I saw them in a bar or airport today. When I started my application process in 2010 I didn't plan on applying to HBS because I bought into the stereotype about Ivy League MBAs being pretentious and arrogant--I was dead-set on attending a "nicer" school like Haas or Stanford or UCLA or Kellogg. It took about 5 minutes on the HBS campus during my interview visit to realize that those stereotypes were unfounded, and my two years there continued to convince me that I'd made the right choice.

Put bluntly, if all those stereotypes were true, then HBS would see its yield go in the tank due to admits declining their HBS offers to attend a "friendlier" school.
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Diiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggg.

Ah well, best of luck to everybody with your other school choices!
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To all those dinged, keep in mind that for all its apparent prestige, Harvard Business School is not the best place in the world to spend 2 years of your life. Having interacted with alums and students from numerous schools, I can definitively say that the culture and environment at HBS is not at all friendly or collegial. In fact, it is the complete opposite. If you were to compare HBS' culture to that of places like Tuck, Kellogg, Fuqua, Darden etc, the difference is night and day. The Dean at HBS this week apologized for the sexism at HBS. Some of the things that the New York Times revealed in September last year about the school were truly shocking. Female students and even female profs being bullied, secret societies of wealthy, arrogant narcissists.

Read these NYTIMES articles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/educa ... wanted=all

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/educa ... d=all&_r=0

Come on now...please don't tell me you're drawing any real conclusions from a few NYT hit pieces that obviously had an agenda. If you don't think every business school has a handful of super-wealthy students who take extravagant weekend trips, or that any business environment that's traditionally male-dominated has occasional struggles with gender issues, then you're just plain naive.

For the NYT to make the claim that those wealthy few created a "Mean Girls"-type environment is laughably inaccurate. The main difference here is that HBS has a bulls-eye on its chest due to its name and status, but it's been very open about addressing the gender and cultural issues that have come up. Also, an HBS class is ~3x the size of a Darden/Tuck class, 2x the size of a Fuqua class, and 1.3x the size of a Kellogg class...you think raw numbers might have something to do with the "huge" number of HBS students who supposedly fit into one of these cliques?

Those articles do not describe my two-year HBS experience in any way. I can say with 100% certainty that met 10x more arrogant, selfish ***-holes at the Naval Academy and in the Marine Corps than I did at HBS. I think I can count on two fingers the number of HBS classmates whom I would purposely avoid if I saw them in a bar or airport today. When I started my application process in 2010 I didn't plan on applying to HBS because I bought into the stereotype about Ivy League MBAs being pretentious and arrogant--I was dead-set on attending a "nicer" school like Haas or Stanford or UCLA or Kellogg. It took about 5 minutes on the HBS campus during my interview visit to realize that those stereotypes were unfounded, and my two years there continued to convince me that I'd made the right choice.

Put bluntly, if all those stereotypes were true, then HBS would see its yield go in the tank due to admits declining their HBS offers to attend a "friendlier" school.


I disagree. No other school has made a program focused on the gender inequality issues...in the year 2012!!!! Not Stanford, not Booth, not Wharton, not Kellogg, not ANY top school had to go to those extremes to teach grown men how to respect females.
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Dingg! Disappointing, thought that I would at least get an interview. Waiting for Sloan to get back to me now!
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To all those dinged, keep in mind that for all its apparent prestige, Harvard Business School is not the best place in the world to spend 2 years of your life. Having interacted with alums and students from numerous schools, I can definitively say that the culture and environment at HBS is not at all friendly or collegial. In fact, it is the complete opposite. If you were to compare HBS' culture to that of places like Tuck, Kellogg, Fuqua, Darden etc, the difference is night and day. The Dean at HBS this week apologized for the sexism at HBS. Some of the things that the New York Times revealed in September last year about the school were truly shocking. Female students and even female profs being bullied, secret societies of wealthy, arrogant narcissists.

Read these NYTIMES articles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/educa ... wanted=all

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/educa ... d=all&_r=0

Come on now...please don't tell me you're drawing any real conclusions from a few NYT hit pieces that obviously had an agenda. If you don't think every business school has a handful of super-wealthy students who take extravagant weekend trips, or that any business environment that's traditionally male-dominated has occasional struggles with gender issues, then you're just plain naive.

For the NYT to make the claim that those wealthy few created a "Mean Girls"-type environment is laughably inaccurate. The main difference here is that HBS has a bulls-eye on its chest due to its name and status, but it's been very open about addressing the gender and cultural issues that have come up. Also, an HBS class is ~3x the size of a Darden/Tuck class, 2x the size of a Fuqua class, and 1.3x the size of a Kellogg class...you think raw numbers might have something to do with the "huge" number of HBS students who supposedly fit into one of these cliques?

Those articles do not describe my two-year HBS experience in any way. I can say with 100% certainty that met 10x more arrogant, selfish ***-holes at the Naval Academy and in the Marine Corps than I did at HBS. I think I can count on two fingers the number of HBS classmates whom I would purposely avoid if I saw them in a bar or airport today. When I started my application process in 2010 I didn't plan on applying to HBS because I bought into the stereotype about Ivy League MBAs being pretentious and arrogant--I was dead-set on attending a "nicer" school like Haas or Stanford or UCLA or Kellogg. It took about 5 minutes on the HBS campus during my interview visit to realize that those stereotypes were unfounded, and my two years there continued to convince me that I'd made the right choice.

Put bluntly, if all those stereotypes were true, then HBS would see its yield go in the tank due to admits declining their HBS offers to attend a "friendlier" school.


I disagree. No other school has made a program focused on the gender inequality issues...in the year 2012!!!! Not Stanford, not Booth, not Wharton, not Kellogg, not ANY top school had to go to those extremes to teach grown men how to respect females.

You disagree based on what? Obviously not personal experience, seeing how you're still an applicant. You're attributing the actions of 1% (at most) of the student body to all 1,800 students in the program. As I mentioned before, 1% of 1,800 is a much larger number than 1% of 500. Do you honestly think there have been zero recent cases of sexual harassment at those other schools you named? I guess if the NYT doesn't write about it, it never happened.

I never witnessed females being mistreated, bullied, or harassed in my RC year section, in any of my EC year elective courses, or in any ECA event I attended. Period. Maybe I got lucky and ended up in the one section that never offended anyone and that was hyper-vigilant in enforcing norms of proper behavior, but I doubt it. That's not to say that misconduct never happened, but rather that any misconduct was the rare exception rather than being systematic or encouraged/tolerated by others or the administration.
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