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Hi,

I have my GMAT in 15 days and I am hoping to score 680+. I took the GMAT Prep 2 today, including the AWA and IR and I scored 610 (V-28, Q-46).

I am consistently scoring 28 in verbal and need some guidance on ways to improve my score. After reviewing the test, I realized that I fall short of time when I reach Q#28-Q#30 in the verbal section. I try to rush and then all my answers are incorrect. I noticed that I am facing some challenges with SC (Parallelism and Modifiers), CR (Assumption Questions) and RC (Main Point Questions).

Any suggestion/ feedback is highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Hello mysterygirl,

It's great that you've identified the areas in which you have challenges. This will make your studies all the more efficient. Definitely do a review of parallelism and modifiers and review previous questions that contained those types of errors. Don't forget to do practice sets as well. In this forum there are large question banks that target specific grammatical categories, including parallelism and modifiers. For CR assumption questions keep in mind that the assumption is the statement that is necessary for the conclusion to hold true. For this reason be sure that you are paraphrasing the conclusion and premise prior to answer the question. As for RC, the main point can often be gleaned from the first and last paragraphs of the text, and the first and last sentences of these. Know that the wrong answer choices for main point questions are often too broad or too narrow.

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Hi Rich,

I agree that I might have developed some bad habits, and I might be using them while answering questions in the Verbal section. I do have flexibilty in pushing back my date but, I prefer giving the exam to have a clear understanding of where I stand.

Do you have any suggestions, in case I decide not to push back my dates. In case I have to push back my test dates, by how many days should I push back my test date?

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Hi mysterygirl,

If you've been scoring at a consistent level for some time now (and you're facing the same challenges again-and-again), then you've likely developed some bad habits that will take some time to 'fix.' So beyond learning some new tactics, you have to work to change how you 'see' (and respond to) the Verbal section. This is all meant to say that you will probably need more than 15 days to make the improvements that you're looking to make.

Do you have the flexibility to push back your Test Date?

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Hi,

Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

I think that I am losing my momentum by the time I reach the Verbal section. I have a template for AWA, suggested in the book by Manhattan GMAT. Find the structure below:

1 Paragraph:
- Summarize the issue
- State a thesis
- Acknowledge that the other side does have some strong merits
- Introduce your example

Body Paragraphs (One for each flaw) 2-3 Body Paragraphs
- Introduce one flaw
- Explain why it is a flaw
- Suggest ways to fix it

Conclusion Paragraph
- Restate your thesis
- Re acknowledge the other side
- Briefly summarize your examples

Please let me know if this structure needs any improvement.

Also, my IR score is around 3-4. Is this a decent score or an alarming number?

Thanks for the document explaining Parallelism. I am trying to master the technique that you have described below for assumption questions. I would like to know if you would suggest that I take up another Mock CAT?

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If you are beginning to falter at the 28 - 30 question mark in the Verbal section, that might indicate that you need to work on your stamina. One simple way to improve that is to do less work on the front end of the test. Are you utilizing a template for the AWA or are you knocking out the essay from scratch? If it is the latter, employing the template can help you minimize the brain power expended on the AWA portion. Let me know if you would like a good sample template.

Regarding your SC challenges, I am attaching a very good document that covers the Parallelism rules. I like this document primarily because it sets things out visually, but also it is concise. There is a good rule of thumb to use for modifiers - that is, that they should be as close as possible to the noun that they are describing. However, there is one exception to this rule and it is also good to know (and look for because the GMAT likes to test this exception on the more difficult SC questions) - participial phrases (a clause beginning with an -ing verb) can modify a subject that is not immediately preceding it, if it is at the end of the sentence and set off with a comma.

Think of Assumption questions like Strengthen questions. They are more difficult because instead of the correct answer directly strengthening the argument, it actually removes a flaw (that you might not have even considered) that, if true, would be problematic for the argument. There is a technique called the Assumption Negation technique that many use on assumption questions. This involves taking the opposite of the answer choice consider its impact on the argument. The opposite of the correct answer choice will void or undermine the conclusion of the argument. Many people find this technique difficult and I tend to use it only when I cannot determine the correct answer or to choose between 2 or 3 remaining contenders.

Finally, I think you might be overthing the Main Point questions. The answers are generally simple (e.g., to tell us about a new theory of how butterfly nebula were created. or to explain the problems of a current program and recommend ways to improve it) but they always include the topic of the passage and what the author is saying about that topic. Many attractive but incorrect answers might include these two elements, but may have the scope of the topic too broad or too narrow, or they may not capture the author's tone on the topic correctly. So, as you initially read the passage, read it not for the details but for: 1) the topic and scope; 2) what the author is saying about the topic (is it informational, analyzing something, or simply an opinion on the topic); 3) how the passage is organized (chronologically, point/counter-point, etc.); and, 4) why did the author write it.

Hopefully these tips help. If you have any questions or want additional information, let me know.
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Thank you for your reply. What kind of practice sets you would suggest? I am practicing the OG and Verbal and Quant questions. Is that sufficient?

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I have my GMAT in 15 days and I am hoping to score 680+. I took the GMAT Prep 2 today, including the AWA and IR and I scored 610 (V-28, Q-46).

I am consistently scoring 28 in verbal and need some guidance on ways to improve my score. After reviewing the test, I realized that I fall short of time when I reach Q#28-Q#30 in the verbal section. I try to rush and then all my answers are incorrect. I noticed that I am facing some challenges with SC (Parallelism and Modifiers), CR (Assumption Questions) and RC (Main Point Questions).

Any suggestion/ feedback is highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Hello mysterygirl,

It's great that you've identified the areas in which you have challenges. This will make your studies all the more efficient. Definitely do a review of parallelism and modifiers and review previous questions that contained those types of errors. Don't forget to do practice sets as well. In this forum there are large question banks that target specific grammatical categories, including parallelism and modifiers. For CR assumption questions keep in mind that the assumption is the statement that is necessary for the conclusion to hold true. For this reason be sure that you are paraphrasing the conclusion and premise prior to answer the question. As for RC, the main point can often be gleaned from the first and last paragraphs of the text, and the first and last sentences of these. Know that the wrong answer choices for main point questions are often too broad or too narrow.

I hope that helps!
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Hi mysterygirl,

Before I can offer any suggestions, I'd like to know a bit more about how you handle the Verbal section overall:

1) What resources have you been using during your studies?
2) What 'steps' do you typically go through when dealing with SC, RC and CR prompts?
3) How often do you find yourself 'narrowing the answers down to 2 choices and then "guessing"?'

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Hi Rich,

1) Resources that I have been using are: Manhattan Guide for SC, RC and CR. I also referred to the CR Bible.
2) SC: I try to find a split, based on the rules and then narrow down to an answer.
RC: Expect for main purpose questions, I refer back to the passage and answer the question.
CR: I use the rules mentioned in Manhattan and CR Bible to choose the answer.
3) 2/5 times I find that I have narrowed down to 2 choices and I guess an answer.

Thanks.

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Hi mysterygirl,

Before I can offer any suggestions, I'd like to know a bit more about how you handle the Verbal section overall:

1) What resources have you been using during your studies?
2) What 'steps' do you typically go through when dealing with SC, RC and CR prompts?
3) How often do you find yourself 'narrowing the answers down to 2 choices and then "guessing"?'

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Hi mysterygirl,

Based on what you've described, your pacing issue is probably due to your overall approach to the Verbal section - it sounds like you keep going back to read and reread the prompt (and possibly the answer choices). By not taking enough notes, you're actually COSTING yourself time AND you might not have a clear idea of what you're looking for in the answer choices (to RC and CR prompts) - so you have to spend more time considering answers that are incorrect. Tactically-speaking, all of this can be improved, but you'll likely need far more time than what you have remaining.

Do you have available data (from your CATs) on the following:
How much time do you spend on an average SC?
How much time do you spend on an average CR?

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Hi Rich,

Average time taken for SC questions: 1.65 Minutes
Average time taken for CR questions: 2.2 Minutes

Over the last week, I have tried improving my CR score, but SC is still a huge problem. I am still making many mistakes in all areas.

Thanks.

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Hi mysterygirl,

Based on what you've described, your pacing issue is probably due to your overall approach to the Verbal section - it sounds like you keep going back to read and reread the prompt (and possibly the answer choices). By not taking enough notes, you're actually COSTING yourself time AND you might not have a clear idea of what you're looking for in the answer choices (to RC and CR prompts) - so you have to spend more time considering answers that are incorrect. Tactically-speaking, all of this can be improved, but you'll likely need far more time than what you have remaining.

Do you have available data (from your CATs) on the following:
How much time do you spend on an average SC?
How much time do you spend on an average CR?

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Hi mysterygirl,

The extra information you've provided is helpful - it confirms my suspicions about how you're approaching the Verbal section.

A typical SC should take between 60-75 seconds (with the longer, more complex SCs taking up to 90 seconds). A typical CR should take no more than about 2 minutes (with tougher ones taking a bit longer). The data you've included shows that your tactics are not strong enough yet - and as a result, you're spending more time on these questions than you should be, your pacing is problematic and your Verbal score isn't improving to the desired level.

While you can take your GMAT as scheduled, I don't think that you're in position to hit your goal scores (so to score 680+, you would end up paying to retake the GMAT). My guess is that another 1-2 months of guided, focused study is what would be required.

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Thank you for your reply. What kind of practice sets you would suggest? I am practicing the OG and Verbal and Quant questions. Is that sufficient?

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I have my GMAT in 15 days and I am hoping to score 680+. I took the GMAT Prep 2 today, including the AWA and IR and I scored 610 (V-28, Q-46).

I am consistently scoring 28 in verbal and need some guidance on ways to improve my score. After reviewing the test, I realized that I fall short of time when I reach Q#28-Q#30 in the verbal section. I try to rush and then all my answers are incorrect. I noticed that I am facing some challenges with SC (Parallelism and Modifiers), CR (Assumption Questions) and RC (Main Point Questions).

Hi Mysterygirl,

The OG is essential, and try the separate verbal book if you don't already have it. The GMAC materials are closest to the real thing. Other sources for questions/practice tests are listed in the link below:
all-gmat-cat-practice-tests-links-prices-reviews-77460.html
https://www.reviews.com/gmat-prep-courses/practice-test/

Good luck!
Any suggestion/ feedback is highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Hello mysterygirl,

It's great that you've identified the areas in which you have challenges. This will make your studies all the more efficient. Definitely do a review of parallelism and modifiers and review previous questions that contained those types of errors. Don't forget to do practice sets as well. In this forum there are large question banks that target specific grammatical categories, including parallelism and modifiers. For CR assumption questions keep in mind that the assumption is the statement that is necessary for the conclusion to hold true. For this reason be sure that you are paraphrasing the conclusion and premise prior to answer the question. As for RC, the main point can often be gleaned from the first and last paragraphs of the text, and the first and last sentences of these. Know that the wrong answer choices for main point questions are often too broad or too narrow.

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Hi mysterygirl,

The extra information you've provided is helpful - it confirms my suspicions about how you're approaching the Verbal section.

A typical SC should take between 60-75 seconds (with the longer, more complex SCs taking up to 90 seconds). A typical CR should take no more than about 2 minutes (with tougher ones taking a bit longer). The data you've included shows that your tactics are not strong enough yet - and as a result, you're spending more time on these questions than you should be, your pacing is problematic and your Verbal score isn't improving to the desired level.

While you can take your GMAT as scheduled, I don't think that you're in position to hit your goal scores (so to score 680+, you would end up paying to retake the GMAT). My guess is that another 1-2 months of guided, focused study is what would be required.

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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your advice. I recently took up the GMAT and scored 660 total (6 AWA, 3 IR, 44 Q, 36 V). I just missed my target score of 680+. However, I plan on taking the GMAT again and my new target score would be 710. What would be the time frame that you suggest for the next exam? I plan on taking it in the end of sep/ oct 1st week. My application deadlines start in Nov, so I cannot delay the test date further than Oct first week. Please suggest ways to improve both Quant and Verbal scores and score 710 in my second attempt.

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Hi mysterygirl,

The extra information you've provided is helpful - it confirms my suspicions about how you're approaching the Verbal section.

A typical SC should take between 60-75 seconds (with the longer, more complex SCs taking up to 90 seconds). A typical CR should take no more than about 2 minutes (with tougher ones taking a bit longer). The data you've included shows that your tactics are not strong enough yet - and as a result, you're spending more time on these questions than you should be, your pacing is problematic and your Verbal score isn't improving to the desired level.

While you can take your GMAT as scheduled, I don't think that you're in position to hit your goal scores (so to score 680+, you would end up paying to retake the GMAT). My guess is that another 1-2 months of guided, focused study is what would be required.

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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your advice. I recently took up the GMAT and scored 660 total (6 AWA, 3 IR, 44 Q, 36 V). I just missed my target score of 680+. However, I plan on taking the GMAT again and my new target score would be 710. What would be the time frame that you suggest for the next exam? I plan on taking it in the end of sep/ oct 1st week. My application deadlines start in Nov, so I cannot delay the test date further than Oct first week. Please suggest ways to improve both Quant and Verbal scores and score 710 in my second attempt.

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What did you do to make a jump form V28 to V36?
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The extra information you've provided is helpful - it confirms my suspicions about how you're approaching the Verbal section.

A typical SC should take between 60-75 seconds (with the longer, more complex SCs taking up to 90 seconds). A typical CR should take no more than about 2 minutes (with tougher ones taking a bit longer). The data you've included shows that your tactics are not strong enough yet - and as a result, you're spending more time on these questions than you should be, your pacing is problematic and your Verbal score isn't improving to the desired level.

While you can take your GMAT as scheduled, I don't think that you're in position to hit your goal scores (so to score 680+, you would end up paying to retake the GMAT). My guess is that another 1-2 months of guided, focused study is what would be required.

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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your advice. I recently took up the GMAT and scored 660 total (6 AWA, 3 IR, 44 Q, 36 V). I just missed my target score of 680+. However, I plan on taking the GMAT again and my new target score would be 710. What would be the time frame that you suggest for the next exam? I plan on taking it in the end of sep/ oct 1st week. My application deadlines start in Nov, so I cannot delay the test date further than Oct first week. Please suggest ways to improve both Quant and Verbal scores and score 710 in my second attempt.

Thanks.

What did you do to make a jump form V28 to V36?

Two weeks before the exam, my mock scores fluctuated from V20 to V28. I could not cross V30 in any of my mocks. I tried attempting only Verbal tests, but was unsuccessful. Since I was keen on taking the exam, I did not give up and tried a different approach. I tried to see a connect between the question and the answer choices. I focused on my error log and kept solving questions from varied sources. Finally, two days before the exam, I took another mock and scored low again. I started focusing on understanding the correct answer and applying my knowledge. I perform well under pressure and hence, during the exam I managed to score V36. My quant score however, was in line with my mock tests. Please let me know how to improve my score from 660 to 710.

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Hi mysterygirl,

With your current GMAT score, you have the potential to pick up a few more points in BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections; all things being equal, I think that you'll find it easier to pick up those points in the Quant section though. With your Quant Scaled Scores, you're clearly strong on the 'math-centric' questions that you face, but you're missing out on a bunch of 'strategy-based' points (including a bunch in DS). So a focus on tactics and 'precision' will be a must.

Have you scheduled your next Test Date yet?

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Hi Friend,

I am also travelling in the same boat as yours but still couldn't figure out how to improve the verbal score which is pretty stagnant at 22-23. I took my exam last year and my present practice tests score are in the same way as they were last year. Your help is much appreciated on this perspective.

My weak points are mainly CR especially weaken. That being said, my SC is in the range 60-65 percent accuracy range. RC fluctuates in the range 40-60. I am putting all my efforts in gaining some points in verbal but getting disappointed with the score I receive at the end of the practice tests.

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Hi krishna.,

With a Verbal Scaled Score in the low 20s, you're losing points in all 3 major Verbal categories (SC, RC and CR). Before we can talk about how to improve, I'd like to know more about your studies so far:

1) How did you score on your Official GMAT (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores)?
2) How long have you been studying?
3) What resources have you been using?
4) What is your goal score?

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Hi Rich,

I completely agree with you that I am losing score in all the three sections. That being said, my safe bet is always SC as I get them above 50% correct when compared to CR or RC.
Here is the info for your queries:
1) How did you score on your Official GMAT (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores)?
AWA-4,IR-1,Q-46,V-22/23
2) How long have you been studying?
Its been more than a year with breaks, however, from august 2015 it is consistent without any breaks.
3) What resources have you been using?
GMAT OG's both 12 & 13th editions,MGMAT SC, MGMAT CR, power score CR. I've recently enrolled in your course as well.

4) What is your goal score?
Anything above 650 would keep me safe.

Thank you
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