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add knewton's test to that lot.

Sure! I've read your review on them. It seems, Knewton's course has helped you a lot. Can you provide some more info? Did you try other CAT's? Can you compare knewton's CAT's with GMAT Prep, Club Challanges, MGMAT or Kaplan?
I could see what you liked about them. Are there any drawbacks?
Thank you a lot for sharing your experience!

Edit: Please post information on Knewton CAT here. Discussion on Knweton as a course moved to - knewton-online-course-review-78282.html
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Guys,

I have a quick question about the Manhattan GMAT cats. I recently took two of them and scored a 640 and a 680. But I found that I always ran out of time in both the verbal and quant sections. I repeatedly came 7-8 questions short on both the sections. Have other test takers faced the same issue or do i have to work on my timing .
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Yes, I think that is common, at least if you are talking math. I think verbal was long, but I didn't have problems finishing (I think their reading passages were a little long if I remember correctly). If you can make it through MGMAT in time and still do well, you should be well equipped for the real thing.
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Does anyone know whether there are free practice tests, in which the AWA is also graded (at least by the computer)? I've tried most of the tests listed above, none of them graded my AWA so far.

There are none for free. GMAC has a paid option that uses the same technology.
I would not waste much time/money on it though - most folks can get a great AWA score with just some practice - see this great guide for AWA by chineseburned: how-to-get-6-0-awa-my-guide-64327.html
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Quick question on the official GMAT prep tests. It is said (see above) that these practice tests can be taken multiple times by un/reinstalling the software. I have a few follow up questions on this:

1. Does a new installer have to be downloaded each time (in order to download new questions)?
2. Is there lots of repeated questions that come up (after taking it more than twice)?
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Quick question on the official GMAT prep tests. It is said (see above) that these practice tests can be taken multiple times by un/reinstalling the software. I have a few follow up questions on this:

1. Does a new installer have to be downloaded each time (in order to download new questions)?
2. Is there lots of repeated questions that come up (after taking it more than twice)?



1 - you can use the same installation package. Don't need to donwload again
2. - there are about 700 total questions in the GMAT Prep - repeats do come up but only a few. Not until you take it 3 times that you start seeing same questions again and again.

Also see this thread for extensive details on GMAT prep: gmatprep-gmat-prep-powerprep-power-prep-free-tests-77548.html
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We have added a new free test to the GMAT Club collection:

Name That Business School - you will be presented with 10 images of the business schools. Your task is to identify them. How good are you?

For more details and discussion see this thread:
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We have added a new free test to the GMAT Club collection:

Name That Business School - you will be presented with 10 images of the business schools. Your task is to identify them. How good are you?

For more details and discussion see this thread:
name-that-business-school-gmat-club-test-78745.html

Results > Name that School #1: you answered correctly 10 out of 10 questions; your percentile on test Name that School #1 is 66.1% (you did better than 66.1% of Name that School #1 test takers).

We have a lot of Bschool fanatics here :)
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Wow - well done.
Looks like you are one of them :lol:

Have you tried the second test? https://gmatclub.com/tests/b02 - it is a "bit" more challenging.
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Which practice CAT would you say would be a good one to take the for the first time ( for those who just are starting their GMAT journey, and to evaluate where they stand before they hit the books)?

GMATPrep (though somewhat wasteful) is the best one.

The argument goes as follows - you want to know your improvement and progress and GMATPrep is the best in evaluating your progress. Yes, you will waste a test, but since you are just starting out - you will score low and only see easier questions. With 700+ questions, you can re-take GMATPrep one more time a few months later and not see more than 1 or 2 repeats, still allowing for an accurate score.
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Wat a post ........Wonderful...hats off to you guys
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Would you please tell me what diffirence between two products on Manhattan GMAT, regarding the CAT test and questions bank.:

This: Manhattan GMAT Computer Adaptive Practice Exams - 1 Year Access https://www.manhattangmat.com/storeitems ... 81&catid=4

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buying a book with price $26, and a account which can access to CAT test??

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Would you please tell me what diffirence between two products on Manhattan GMAT, regarding the CAT test and questions bank.:

This: Manhattan GMAT Computer Adaptive Practice Exams - 1 Year Access https://www.manhattangmat.com/storeitems ... 81&catid=4

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buying a book with price $26, and a account which can access to CAT test??

Thank you very much

The difference is length of access only. It is a strange strategy, I know. If you purchase exams from Manhattan GMAT directly, you will get 1 year access. The codes that are included with books are valid only for 6 months. This is the only difference.
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Please post information on Knewton CAT here. Discussion on Knweton as a course moved to - knewton-online-course-review-78282.html

I posted my Knewton CAT review on the Knewton course review thread (mentioned above) by mistake.
I'm pasting it here, and let gmatclub decide where it belongs.

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Before sharing my thoughts on Knewton, let me provide background on CATs I have taken.

In chronological order (set by the time I took the 1st CAT from each source):
1. Kaplan 2005 (soft)
2. Powerprep (soft)
3. GPrep (soft)
4. Princeton 2006 (soft)
5. Barrons 2007 (soft)
6. Arco 2006 (soft)
7. Crack the GMAT (soft)
8. Manhattan (online)
9. 800score (flash)
10. Knewton (online)

Crack the GMAT is the worse, and 800score and Knewton come right after.

But this is about Knewton. I just finished their free online CAT, and this is my brief review:

Quant
. Good questions, very real, covering all areas.
. Representative of the easiest GMAT questions. Did not encounter one challenging question.
. Did not seem to be adaptative, at all.
. Good as a summary of fields to master.

Verbal
. Same
. Found two unacceptable grammatical mistakes on 2 of the 4 reading comprehension sections.

Scoring algorithm
. The worst I have encountered together with 800score's.
. Quant: had 3 mistakes-> Q45
. Verbal: had 4 mistakes-> V37
. Although this may be partially explained by the lack of difficulty of the questions, it is still way off mark.

Others:
. Post-exam questions log/review is outstanding.
. As another poster mentioned, some questions seemed to be taken from OG with a few things changed here and there.

Now see how that compares to my GPrep stats:
1. Q49 with 10 mistakes; V46 with 3 mistakes. 760
2. Q49 with 9 mistakes; V42 with 7 mistakes. 750
3. Q49 with 8 mistakes; V47 with 4 mistakes. 770

It is not a question of higher or lower score. Knewton is simply off mark.

Bottom line: good only as a comprehensive summary of basic level questions to be done against the clock. Scoring should be ignored.
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Here goes some extra info on the different CATs I've taken.

1. Kaplan 2005 (soft) - I concur with the brief review presented on this post.
2. Powerprep (soft) - I concur with the brief review presented on this post.
3. GPrep (soft) - I concur with the brief review presented on this post.
4. Princeton 2006 (soft) - I concur with the brief review presented on this post.
5. Barrons 2007 (soft) - OK for timed extra practice. No scoring provided.
6. Arco=Peterson's 2006 (soft) - Liked it. Partially adaptative. Had both hard and easy CAT experiences. Good scoring with glitches.
7. Crack the GMAT (soft) - Stay away from it.
8. Manhattan (online) - Outstanding. Brutal CATs.
9. 800score (flash) - Not really adaptative. Scoring completely off. Quant was supposed to be hard, and verbal easy. I found quant to be overly easy.
10. Knewton (online) - See above.
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I just took the GMATLive free CAT. And with it ends my experimentation of GMAT CATs from unverified sources. The test was as bad as it could be.

Quant: Not adaptative, overly easy, horrible questions ... see below for samples
Verbal: Seems like taken entirely from 1000CR, 1000SC and 3000RC.
Scoring: What A joke. Score was Q:53 V:56 T:790. (for those who don't know, the highest GMAT score is 51)

Veredict: stay away!

For illustration purposes, here are some sample questions taken from the CAT:

- Maria deposits $10,000 in a bank. What is the annual interest which the bank will pay to Maria?
(1) The interest must be paid once every six months.
(2) The rate of interest is 4%.
-> Answer said B. I believe this question is unclear and can’t be answered.

- At a certain diner, a hamburger and coleslaw cost $3.59, and a hamburger and french fries cost $4.40. If french fries cost twice as much as coleslaw, how much do french fries cost?
a) $0.30 b) $0.45 c) $0.60 d) $0.75 e) $0.90
-> Correct answer not listed!

- Given that side AC of triangle ABC is 2. Find the length of BC.
(1) AB is not equal to AC
(2) Angle B is 30 degrees.
-> Angle B! Which one is angle B?
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I just took the GMATLive free CAT. And with it ends my experimentation of GMAT CATs from unverified sources. The test was as bad as it could be.

Quant: Not adaptative, overly easy ... and I found a question that did not have the right answer listed!
Verbal: Seems like it was taken entirely from 1000CR, 1000SC and 3000RC.
Scoring: What A joke. Please laugh with me. Score was Q:53 V:56 T:790. (for those who don't know, the highest GMAT score is 51)

Veredict: stay away!


Thanks for the reviews!!
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