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27 Aug 2009, 16:25
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powerka wrote:
I just took the GMATLive free CAT. And with it ends my experimentation of GMAT CATs from unverified sources. The test was as bad as it could be.

Quant: Not adaptative, overly easy ... and I found a question that did not have the right answer listed!
Verbal: Seems like it was taken entirely from 1000CR, 1000SC and 3000RC.
Scoring: What A joke. Please laugh with me. Score was Q:53 V:56 T:790. (for those who don't know, the highest GMAT score is 51)

Veredict: stay away!

Well I agree 53 and 56 is a joke , but I know that I read in two GMAT experiences elsewhere where they got Quant of 52, so 51 is not the highest I suppose.
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27 Aug 2009, 16:38
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I guess that this discussion belongs to a different post. Anyway, 51 is the current highest possible score on either Q and V, regardless of the incongruence of the 60 scale. You don't have to believe me; just do some more research. The only post I've found of somebody claiming a 52 in math ends with the poster discovered as a fake and banned from the forum. Google "800 (Q 52 V 48)".
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23 Sep 2009, 11:24
hi ev1, i recently gave one of kaplan's free test which is available online, scored 45 in quant and 39 in verbal and ended up with a 640. can any1 tell me if its a correct score or shud i hav got more or smthing. I have my gmat cming up within a few weeks so if any1 cud tell hw to go abt it. Also i am a complete novice as far as the AWA is concrnd infact writing is totally NOT my cup of tea. any suggestions?

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23 Sep 2009, 15:44
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hi ev1, i recently gave one of kaplan's free test which is available online, scored 45 in quant and 39 in verbal and ended up with a 640. can any1 tell me if its a correct score or shud i hav got more or smthing. I have my gmat cming up within a few weeks so if any1 cud tell hw to go abt it. Also i am a complete novice as far as the AWA is concrnd infact writing is totally NOT my cup of tea. any suggestions?

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Hi newborn,

Some people say that our tests score a little low, but I can't say for certain whether or not that is true. What I can say, however, is that the first test you ever take may not be representative. Specifically, did you take the test cold? If you've done a lot of work beforehand, you might get a good sense of what your score will be; on the other hand, if you've never seen a Data Sufficiency or Critical Reasoning question before in your life, then simple familiarity could be worth 20 or 30 points on the next go around.

That being said, it's all speculation. There is an easy solution: take another test! There are a number of free tests available, including the two official practice tests at www.mba.com; see if your score stay consistent across a second try.
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24 Sep 2009, 16:51
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newbornkyd wrote:
hi ev1, i recently gave one of kaplan's free test which is available online, scored 45 in quant and 39 in verbal and ended up with a 640. can any1 tell me if its a correct score or shud i hav got more or smthing. I have my gmat cming up within a few weeks so if any1 cud tell hw to go abt it. Also i am a complete novice as far as the AWA is concrnd infact writing is totally NOT my cup of tea. any suggestions?

Thanks
Hi newborn,

Some people say that our tests score a little low, but I can't say for certain whether or not that is true. What I can say, however, is that the first test you ever take may not be representative. Specifically, did you take the test cold? If you've done a lot of work beforehand, you might get a good sense of what your score will be; on the other hand, if you've never seen a Data Sufficiency or Critical Reasoning question before in your life, then simple familiarity could be worth 20 or 30 points on the next go around.

That being said, it's all speculation. There is an easy solution: take another test! There are a number of free tests available, including the two official practice tests at http://www.mba.com; see if your score stay consistent across a second try.

I would be happy to agree with that, but our database of scores indicates otherwise - take a look at the GMAT Score Calculator/Estimator - if you put 640 as your GMAT, it will calculate the approximate GMAT equivalent of 720. It is based solely on statistics and scores members provided in the past 12-18 months. You're welcome to try to poke holes at it - I am always interested in feedback about this tool.

when I was preparing using Kaplan materials, the highest I scored was 640 or 650. My final score was 750.
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25 Sep 2009, 11:04
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Hi bb,

One correction re: Veritas Prep... We actually do offer one free practice test on our site, available to anyone who registers for free:

Veritas Prep - Free Practice GMAT

We'd offered this since last year.

Thanks!
Scott

Thanks! Fixing right away.
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26 Sep 2009, 21:57
@KapTeacherEli :Thanks for the suggestion, i took Gmatprep n scored 720 with almost identical section scores. im really worried about gmat, nerves being my major problem
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26 Sep 2009, 23:03
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@KapTeacherEli :Thanks for the suggestion, i took Gmatprep n scored 720 with almost identical section scores. im really worried about gmat, nerves being my major problem

Thanks for reporting back. Just to make sure your Kaplan was 640 and GMATPrep 720 - correct?

P.S. Don't stress it, just take it one question at a time and always anticipate a simple trap with wording - stress won't help you but being paranoid will
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27 Sep 2009, 03:43
@bb: yes they are. anything you wud like to say, which might help me improve my score, please feel free.
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27 Sep 2009, 14:42
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@bb: yes they are. anything you wud like to say, which might help me improve my score, please feel free.

Trust the GMAT Prep, and use the GMAT Score Estimator/Calculator to get an estimate based on other people's scores - you are doing good and on track for 700+
If you want me to review your particular case, please post a separate thread in the forum.
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30 Sep 2009, 15:21
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add knewton's test to that lot.

Sure! I've read your review on them. It seems, Knewton's course has helped you a lot. Can you provide some more info? Did you try other CAT's? Can you compare knewton's CAT's with GMAT Prep, Club Challanges, MGMAT or Kaplan?
I could see what you liked about them. Are there any drawbacks?
Thank you a lot for sharing your experience!

Edit: Please post information on Knewton CAT here. Discussion on Knweton as a course moved to - knewton-online-course-review-78282.html

also came across Platinum's GMAT practice test (no sign-up, no coughing up personal info required, website is all 100% free content)
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02 Oct 2009, 12:49
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KapTeacherEli wrote:
newbornkyd wrote:
hi ev1, i recently gave one of kaplan's free test which is available online, scored 45 in quant and 39 in verbal and ended up with a 640. can any1 tell me if its a correct score or shud i hav got more or smthing. I have my gmat cming up within a few weeks so if any1 cud tell hw to go abt it. Also i am a complete novice as far as the AWA is concrnd infact writing is totally NOT my cup of tea. any suggestions?

Thanks
Hi newborn,

Some people say that our tests score a little low, but I can't say for certain whether or not that is true. What I can say, however, is that the first test you ever take may not be representative. Specifically, did you take the test cold? If you've done a lot of work beforehand, you might get a good sense of what your score will be; on the other hand, if you've never seen a Data Sufficiency or Critical Reasoning question before in your life, then simple familiarity could be worth 20 or 30 points on the next go around.

That being said, it's all speculation. There is an easy solution: take another test! There are a number of free tests available, including the two official practice tests at http://www.mba.com; see if your score stay consistent across a second try.

I would be happy to agree with that, but our database of scores indicates otherwise - take a look at the GMAT Score Calculator/Estimator - if you put 640 as your GMAT, it will calculate the approximate GMAT equivalent of 720. It is based solely on statistics and scores members provided in the past 12-18 months. You're welcome to try to poke holes at it - I am always interested in feedback about this tool.

when I was preparing using Kaplan materials, the highest I scored was 640 or 650. My final score was 750.

I keep hearing that the Kaplan Tests are the hardest... I have to wonder if that has to do with the company of study materials you use to prepare for these tests. It seems like the majority of folks here use the Manhattan materials MGMAT CAT tests and 1000 books. I used Kaplan premium GMAT Review paperback book only to study. My Kaplan scores are my highest at 750 & 760. This compares to 710 GMATPrep, 730 Manhattan, 710 Princeton.

Any thoughts on whether the study materials used have a factor on these estimate test scores?

I take my test in 8 days so I will let you know how my actual results look so that the GMATClub Estimator can factor them in! I really like the tool. Thanks for creating it.
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aj1545 wrote:

I keep hearing that the Kaplan Tests are the hardest... I have to wonder if that has to do with the company of study materials you use to prepare for these tests. It seems like the majority of folks here use the Manhattan materials MGMAT CAT tests and 1000 books. I used Kaplan premium GMAT Review paperback book only to study. My Kaplan scores are my highest at 750 & 760. This compares to 710 GMATPrep, 730 Manhattan, 710 Princeton.

Any thoughts on whether the study materials used have a factor on these estimate test scores?

I take my test in 8 days so I will let you know how my actual results look so that the GMATClub Estimator can factor them in! I really like the tool. Thanks for creating it.

Thanks - please do post your scores to the Estimator - I have not known anyone who got 750 or 760 on Kaplan

http://gmatclub.com/gmat-score-estimate/
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18 Oct 2009, 13:47
For those of you who have taken the Kaplan tests and say that they are lower than actuals, is that the case with the first (free) Kaplan test?
So far I got on the GMATPrep: 640 (this was a few weeks ago though); MGMAT: 590, 630; Princeton: 580, 590; and just took the Kaplan and got a 660.

I'm aiming for a 640+ and writing this Friday.
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19 Oct 2009, 02:10
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For those of you who have taken the Kaplan tests and say that they are lower than actuals, is that the case with the first (free) Kaplan test?
So far I got on the GMATPrep: 640 (this was a few weeks ago though); MGMAT: 590, 630; Princeton: 580, 590; and just took the Kaplan and got a 660.

I'm aiming for a 640+ and writing this Friday.
Thanks!

The Kaplan free test is not accurate as it is not a CAT. Use your GMATPrep score as a guidance.
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21 Oct 2009, 15:18
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Thanks - please do post your scores to the Estimator - I have not known anyone who got 750 or 760 on Kaplan

http://gmatclub.com/gmat-score-estimate/
As scientists say, "the plural of anecdote isn't data," but I've had a number of students hit 750 on Kaplan tests during GMAT classes I've taught, and one student who got two back-to-back 800s. We're clearly not that impossible
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21 Oct 2009, 15:44
I actually think it is a good thing (for an educated test taker). It keeps pushing one to improve and then provides a pleasant surprise. Of course people want constant score improvement and take tests every 2 days to see if they got 10 points more. That's the wrong approach.

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bb wrote:

Thanks - please do post your scores to the Estimator - I have not known anyone who got 750 or 760 on Kaplan

http://gmatclub.com/gmat-score-estimate/
As scientists say, "the plural of anecdote isn't data," but I've had a number of students hit 750 on Kaplan tests during GMAT classes I've taught, and one student who got two back-to-back 800s. We're clearly not that impossible

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When you buy Kaplan Live Online book, you gain access to some 7 or 8 "practice tests". What kind of tests are these? CATs or linear?
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When you buy Kaplan Live Online book, you gain access to some 7 or 8 "practice tests". What kind of tests are these? CATs or linear?

You get 6 tests. 1 in the book (printed - linear); 5 online from Kaplan.com - CAT's
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