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The stimulus uses correct Conditional reasoning.

Premise:
If two-point conversion, then behind (If reason, then result)
If NOT behind, then NOT two-point conversion. (If NOT result, then NOT reason)

Conclusion:
The Bears NOT behind, thus NOT two-point conversion (If NOT result, then NOT reason)

As we see the conclusion matches the above reasoning, and we need to find similar conditional reasoning and matching conclusion.

A. Premise: If policy, then incident (If reason, then result)
If NOT incident, then NOT policy (If NOT result, then NOT reason)

Conclusion: NOT incident, thus NOT policy (If NOT result, then NOT reason)

Correct match as in the stimulus. So keep.

B. If supersale, then bade sale
If NOT bad sale, then NOT supersale

Conclusion: NOT supersale, thus NOT bad sale.

Conclusion mismatch because of mistaken negation, thus out.

C. If suspect, then pop-quiz
If NOT pop-quiz, then NOT suspect

Conclusion: pop-quiz, thus suspect

Conclusion mismatch because of mistaken reversal, thus out.

D. If exceed, then NOT participate
If participate, then NOT exceeded

Conclusion: exceed, thus NOT

Correct match as in the stimulus. So keep.

E. If exceed, then buy
If NOT buy, then NOT exceed

Conclusion: NOT exceed, thus NOT buy

Conclusion mismatch because of mistaken negation, thus out.

We have A and D as contenders. I chose A over D because A’s conclusion is parallel to the Contrapositive of its premise, as it's in the stimuslus. However, D’s conclusion is parallel to its stimulus itself, not to its contrapostive.

One more hint: Notice that D and the original argument have too much in common!
1. both have the same topic – sport
2. both use the same words – upcoming, and (at the same places)
3. both have the same structure: Conclusion + premise + evidence

All of these similarities should make us suspicious! D is a trap! It’s too beautiful to be true! So something must be wrong with it! Indeed, however much D may look like the original argument, D still lacks parallel reasoning.

Hence A

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The Bears will not attempt a two-point conversion after the upcoming touchdown. After all, if a team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion, it suggests that the team is behind, and the bears are winning by 7 points.

Which of the following arguments most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument?

Reasoning: 2 point conversion => Team is behind. Team is not behind => No 2 point conversion

(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
Reasoning: New policy => Recent Incident. No recent incident => No new policy
Matches with the reasoning in the argument. Correct
(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.
Reasoning: Supersale => Not selling well. No supersale => Selling well
It does not match reasoning in the argument. Incorrect
(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
Reasoning: Pop up quiz => No HW. Pop up quiz => No HW
It does not match reasoning in the argument. Incorrect
(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
Reasoning: Temp>75=> No participation. Temp >75=90 => No participation
It does not match reasoning in the argument. Incorrect
(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
Reasoning: Mileage > 200000 miles => New car . Mileage <200000 miles => No new car
It does not match reasoning in the argument. Incorrect


IMO A

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This was a though one... below is how I went about it:

The Bears will not attempt a two-point conversion after the upcoming touchdown. After all, if a team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion, it suggests that the team is behind, and the bears are winning by 7 points.

Which of the following arguments most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument?


ANALYSIS:

Bears are currently ahead.... this current situation fits general trend that 2 point conversion is only done by losers not winners... based on current situation and general trend, there is prediction that bears will follow trend

So there are 3 parts... (1)current situation, (2)general trend, (3)prediction because (1) fits in (2)


Discarded options have been prefixed with X:


(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
>>current situation is there are no recent injuries, general trend is that policies are ususally after injuries, prediction is that there must be no new policies.

THIS SEEMS TO BE CORRECT. We will still evaluate other options.

X(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.
>>We dont have any information on current performance of sales like we did about bears currently winning by 7 points. And there is no prediction of what store x will do.

X(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
>>There is no prediction of what teacher WILL DO based on current situation of homework. We already know what teacher has done and we are guessing motivations behind her action. There is no prediction based on actual situation and trend.

X(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
>>Here we are making prediction not based on current situation, but based on another prediction. This would mimic the question if tempreatures were actually 90, but here tempreatures are expected to be 90. We knew that bears were winning by 7 points. It was not an expectation.

X(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
>>Prediction that john will not buy a new car is made based on johns own criteria of buying after 200000 miles. Not based on general trend that people buy car after 200000 miles.

ANSWER: A
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ORIGINAL ARGUMENT:
If conversion --> behind
NOT behind --> thus, NO conversion


(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
If new policy --> recent incident
NO recent incident --> thus, NO new policy

CORRECT ANSWER. The argument most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument

(B) Since store X hasn't placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item isn't selling well.
If supersale --> NOT selling well
NO supersale --> thus, selling well

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
If NOT complete --> pop-quiz
pop-quiz --> thus, NOT complete

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
If temp >75 degree --> NO participation
NO participation --> thus, temp >75 degree

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
If mileage >200,000 miles --> new car
NOT mileage >200,000 miles --> thus, NO new car

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument


CORRECT ANSWER IS (A)
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IMO-A

Note: Reasoning-
Assume X- Team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion
Y- suggests that the team is behind
Now, A/Q Passage, if X, then Y, Since [not Y], so [not X]

[Not X]The Bears will not attempt a two-point conversion after the upcoming touchdown. After all, if [X]- a team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion, [Y]- it suggests that the team is behind, [Not Y] and the bears are winning by 7 points.

(A) If [X] a new workplace injury policy is instituted, [Y]-it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. [Not Y]-There have been no recent incidents, therefore, [Not X] there must be no new workplace injury policies.--Correct--- Same as original line of reasoning- if X, then Y, Since [not Y], so [not X]

(B) Since [Not X] store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," [Not Y] its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, [X]--If store X places an item on "supersale," [Y]--it is an indication that the item is not selling well.---Incorrect---Here reasoning is , if [X], then [Y]. Since [Not X], so [Not Y]----not along the line of reasoning...

(C)If [X] a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, [Y] they will give a pop-quiz. [Y] Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, [X] so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.---Incorrect---Here reasoning is , if [X], then [Y]. Since [Y], so [X]----not along the line of reasoning...

(D) [Y*] Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. [X1] If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, [Y1] Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, [X*] and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.----Incorrect---Here reasoning is , if [X1], then [Y1]. Since [X*], so [Y*]----not along the line of reasoning...

(E) [Y] John plans to buy a new car when his [X] vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. [Not X] John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, [Not Y] so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.---Incorrect---Here reasoning is , if [X], then [Y]. Since [Not X], so [Not Y]----not along the line of reasoning...
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Argument is based on-
If X, then Y
As ~Y, hence ~X

Only option A is analogous to the given argument
If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident.....If X, then Y
There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.......As ~Y, hence ~X

IMO A
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Method of reasoning.
Bears will not attempt two-point conversion after touchdown. Team is not winning If team scores touchdown and attempts two-point conversion. Team is winning hence two-point conversion will not be attempted.

(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
Workplace injury Policy is implemented, due to recent incidents . No recent incidents, therefore no workplace injury policy.
structure does not match with original one

(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.
since store X does not place item on superscale, its sales must be exceeding. Item is not selling If stores X does place item on superscale. its sales must be exceeding hence store X does not place superscale. This is the close match to the original reasoning.

(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
if teacher suspects students aren't completing homework -> they give pop-quiz. teacher suspected students were not completing homework, hence Dr gave pop-quiz.. Not a match to the original structure

(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
Eduardo will not compete in triathion. Eduardo does not participate in triathion events, if temparatures are expected to exceed. Temparatures are expected to exceed.
This is good until first and second stmt. there is a difference in the original structure in last stmt.

(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
If vehicle mileage exceeds -> John plans to buy new car. vehicle currently has 170k miles -> John has no plan to purchase
Does not follow the same structure

B is the closest
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Structure: Y does not happen. Because, if Y happens it means X has happened. But X has not happened.

(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
-Correct. Y has happened, implies X has happened. X has not happened , thus Y must not happen.

(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.
- Incorrect. Y must be happening, since X has not happened. Since, if X happens, it means Y is not happening.

(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
-Incorrect. Y will happen, when X happens. Y happened, so X must have happened.


(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
-Incorrect. Y will not happen. If X happens, Y will not happen. X has happened.

(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
- Incorrect. Y will happen when X happens. X has not happened, so Y will not happen.


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The Bears will not attempt a two-point conversion after the upcoming touchdown. After all, if a team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion, it suggests that the team is behind, and the bears are winning by 7 points.

Which of the following arguments most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument?

I'm not quite sure about reasoning behind, but to me A is the closely mimics the authors reasoning. Because only A has explicit conclusion.

(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.

(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.
(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.


Other answer choices don't have such clear conclusion.

A is the answer
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Original Statement :
If A -> B
Here not B --> A
(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.--correct
(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.---> Here conclusion also same A-> B
(C) If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework. same as B
(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.both are expected statements
(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.-----> A->B B->A
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This is a great question that is very LSAT-like. It plays on the idea of sufficiency and necessary conditions, which is something that can help improve most people's CR skills. If anyone has questions about (A), please ask and I'd be happy to provide the proper diagramming for this question, though a lot of people did a great already explaining the question!
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This is a great question that is very LSAT-like. It plays on the idea of sufficiency and necessary conditions, which is something that can help improve most people's CR skills. If anyone has questions about (A), please ask and I'd be happy to provide the proper diagramming for this question, though a lot of people did a great already explaining the question!


Hi.
Please, can you explain in detail?

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nightblade354 wrote:
This is a great question that is very LSAT-like. It plays on the idea of sufficiency and necessary conditions, which is something that can help improve most people's CR skills. If anyone has questions about (A), please ask and I'd be happy to provide the proper diagramming for this question, though a lot of people did a great already explaining the question!


Hi.
Please, can you explain in details?


ORIGINAL ARGUMENT:
If conversion --> behind
NOT behind --> thus, NO conversion


(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
If new policy --> recent incident
NO recent incident --> thus, NO new policy

CORRECT ANSWER. The argument most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument

(B) Since store X hasn't placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item isn't selling well.
If supersale --> NOT selling well
NO supersale --> thus, selling well

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
If NOT complete --> pop-quiz
pop-quiz --> thus, NOT complete

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
If temp >75 degree --> NO participation
NO participation --> thus, temp >75 degree

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
If mileage >200,000 miles --> new car
NOT mileage >200,000 miles --> thus, NO new car

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

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How is the Official answer A, Someone please explain


ORIGINAL ARGUMENT:
If conversion --> behind
NOT behind --> thus, NO conversion


(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
If new policy --> recent incident
NO recent incident --> thus, NO new policy

CORRECT ANSWER. The argument most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument

(B) Since store X hasn't placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item isn't selling well.
If supersale --> NOT selling well
NO supersale --> thus, selling well

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(C)If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.
If NOT complete --> pop-quiz
pop-quiz --> thus, NOT complete

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.
If temp >75 degree --> NO participation
NO participation --> thus, temp >75 degree

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.
If mileage >200,000 miles --> new car
NOT mileage >200,000 miles --> thus, NO new car

No, the argument doesn't mimic the reasoning used in the original argument

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­The Bears will not attempt a two-point conversion after the upcoming touchdown. After all, if a team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion, it suggests that the team is behind, and the bears are winning by 7 points.

Meaning -
If the team scores a touchdown and attempts a two-point conversion, --> Team is behind. 
The team is not behind (winning by 7 points) -->will not attempt a two-point conversion. 

Which of the following arguments most closely mimics the reasoning used in the above argument?

Option Elimination - 

(A) If a new workplace injury policy is instituted, it can generally be traced back to a recent incident. There have been no recent incidents, therefore, there must be no new workplace injury policies.
If a new WP injury policy is instituted --> it can be traced back to an incident. 
No incident --> No WP policy. 

Ok. 

(B) Since store X has not placed its newest action figure on "supersale," its sales must be exceeding expectations. After all, If store X places an item on "supersale," it is an indication that the item is not selling well.

If an item on supersale --> not selling well.
Implies - (If X, then Y. X implies Y) Selling well --> not on super sale

Does not imply (If X, then Y. Not X does not imply Not Y) - Not on super sale --> selling well. The option follows this wrong logic. Wrong. 

(C) If a teacher suspects that students aren't completing their homework, they will give a pop-quiz. Dr. Ramirez gave a pop-quiz in class today, so she must have suspected students were not completing their homework.

No homework --> pop-quiz
Implies - No pop quiz --> Homework done. 
It doesn't imply that homework is done --> no pop quiz.
Also, it doesn't imply (If X, then Y. Y does not imply X) that pop-quiz --> no homework. The option follows this logic. Wrong. 

(D) Eduardo will not compete in the upcoming triathlon. If temperatures are expected to exceed 75 degrees, Eduardo elects not to participate in available triathlon events, and temperatures are expected to reach nearly 90 degrees.

If Temperature >75degree --> no participation. 
Implies
Participation --> Temperate not >75 degrees (meaning it could be equal to 75 degrees or less)

Doent not imply 
1. not >75 degree --> participation
2. no participation --> temperature >75 degrees. 

While the implication is ok as per the logic, we are looking for something like - Participation --> Temperate not >75 degrees (meaning it could be equal to 75 degrees or less) to align with the same logic as in the argument. Wrong. 

(E) John plans to buy a new car when his vehicle's mileage exceeds 200,000 miles. John's vehicle currently has 170,000 miles, so he will not yet purchase new vehicle.

When the vehicle's mileage exceeds 200k --> Plan to buy a new car.
Implies - do not plan to buy a new car --> mileage has not exceeded 200k (either equal to 200k or lower)

Does not imply
mileage has not exceeded 200k (either equal to 200k or lower) --> Do not plan to buy - The argument follows this logic. Wrong. 
or 
Plan to buy a new car -->the vehicle's mileage exceeds 200k
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