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The quadratic equation \( x^2−(𝑎+𝑏)x +17\) has a minimum value of -8 and a^2− b^2 = 60. If the sum of the roots is positive, what is the value of a^2 + b^2?

A. 64
B. 82
C. 68
D. 58
E. 76­
­This is a question related to parabola and the minimum value the parabola takes. Such questions would not be seen on GMAT.

You could differentiate to get the minim or maxima of an equation.

\( x^2−(a+b)x +17..........\frac{d}{dx}(x^2-(a+b)x+17)=0......2x-(a+b)=0......x=\frac{(a+b)}{2}\).....

So the value becomes => \(x^2−(a+b)x +17=(\frac{a+b}{2})^2-(a+b)\frac{(a+b)}{2}+17=-8.....(a+b)^2=100.....a+b=10\), as sum of roots i spositive.

Now \(a^2-b^2=60...(a-b)(a+b)=60.......(a-b)*10=60......a-b=6\)
a+b=10 and a-b=6. So, (a+b)+(a-b)=10+6......2a=16 or a=8 and b=2
\(a^2+b^2=2^2+8^2=64+4=68\)
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Method 1: Since minimum value of quadratic eqn x^2−(a+b)x+17 is -8.
x[x-(a+b)]= -8-17= -25
We have -ve sign we can get this product when one number is 5 and other is -5.
Since x>x-(a+b), x=5 and 5-10=-5 i.e. a+b=10

From a^2− b^2= 60, we get a-b=6. Solve both equations, a=8 , b=2
a^2+b^2= 64+4= 68

Method 2: Use differentiation, since a>0, it will have a minima.
Diff we get,
2x= a+b
substitute the value of x in the equation
we get
(a+b)^2=100
a-b=6
Next steps, same as above
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if we assume the original equation to be (x-a)(x-b), then it comes out to x^2 -ax - bx + ab, and the equation in the equation is x^2 -ax -bx + 17. Then, ab = 17. If the minimum value is -8, I also got (a+b)^2 = 100, but my thought process was (a+b)^2 = 100 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2. If ab = 17, 2ab = 34, thus a^2 + b^2 = 100-34 = 66. However, that is not the right answer. I understand how to do it the right way, but where is my lapse in logic?
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if we assume the original equation to be (x-a)(x-b), then it comes out to x^2 -ax - bx + ab, and the equation in the equation is x^2 -ax -bx + 17. Then, ab = 17. If the minimum value is -8, I also got (a+b)^2 = 100, but my thought process was (a+b)^2 = 100 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2. If ab = 17, 2ab = 34, thus a^2 + b^2 = 100-34 = 66. However, that is not the right answer. I understand how to do it the right way, but where is my lapse in logic?
You are taking it as \(x^2-ax-bx+17=0\), but it is \(x^2-ax-bx+17 \geq -8\)
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is that a right approach to solve this using vertex?
if we do \(\frac{-b}{2a} = -8\) which is \(\frac{(a+b)}{2} = -8\) in this case.

I started with this approach. but somehow the answer doesn't match. So I'm guessing there could be a gap in the concept I'm pursuing it with.
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The quadratic equation \(x^2−(a+b)x +17\) has a minimum value of -8 and a^2− b^2 = 60. If the sum of the roots is positive, what is the value of a^2 + b^2?
A. 64
B. 82
C. 68
D. 58
E. 76­

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is that a right approach to solve this using vertex?
if we do \(\frac{-b}{2a} = -8\) which is \(\frac{(a+b)}{2} = -8\) in this case.

I started with this approach. but somehow the answer doesn't match. So I'm guessing there could be a gap in the concept I'm pursuing it with.

\(\frac{-b}{2a} = -8\) represents the x-coordinate of the vertex. The minimum value is the y-coordinate, given by \(c - \frac{b^2}{4a}\) (check here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/math-coordin ... 87652.html).

For \(x^2 − (m + n)x + 17\) (I replaced a and b with m and n to avoid confusion with standard quadratic coefficients), \(c - \frac{b^2}{4a}\) becomes \(17 - \frac{(m + n)^2}{4}\).

Thus, we have \(17 - \frac{(m + n)^2}{4} = -8\), which simplifies to \((m + n)^2 = 100\). Since the sum of the roots is positive, we get \(m + n = 10\).

Given \(m + n = 10\) and \((m + n)(m - n) = 60\), we find \(m = 8\) and \(n = 2\). Therefore, \(m^2 + n^2 = 68\).

Answer: C.
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Please let me know if i am wrong!

What i did was completely ignored the equation and looked at the answer choices. I looked for the sum of two perfect squares that have a difference of 60. C fit the requirement 68=64+4=8^2+2^2


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The quadratic equation \(x^2−(a+b)x +17\) has a minimum value of -8 and a^2− b^2 = 60. If the sum of the roots is positive, what is the value of a^2 + b^2?

A. 64
B. 82
C. 68
D. 58
E. 76­
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